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The De Jong one was far worse, man :lol: Full force into the knee.

 

Pepe's was a lame raised foot which only looked bad due to the pace at which it happened. Alves followed through into Pepe as much as anything. If any real contact had been made, Alves wouldn't have made such a miraculous recovery.

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José Mourinho rages at 'plot' to put Barcelona in the final

 

José Mourinho effectively accused Uefa of fixing it for Barcelona to reach the Champions League final after his Real Madrid team were beaten 2-0 at home by their fiercest rivals in an ugly and controversy-filled first leg of their semi-final.

 

Mourinho claimed it was "impossible" for Madrid to defeat the dark forces lined up against them after a night on which he and his defender Pepe were sent off. Two goals by Lionel Messi followed those dismissals to leave Barça on the verge of the final, where they look certain to meet Manchester United.

 

Madrid's coach accused Barcelona of wielding untouchable power in European football and said their coach, Pep Guardiola, should feel "ashamed" if he wins a competition that "yet again" is engulfed in "scandal". Barcelona also had a man sent off, their substitute goalkeeper, José Pinto, for his role in a mass brawl as the teams left the field at half-time. The incident was one of numerous flashpoints.

 

"One day," Mourinho said, pointedly using the Barcelona coach's full name, "I would like Josep Guardiola to win this competition properly." That was a reference to the controversial semi-final victory of Guardiola's team over Chelsea en route to their triumph in 2009.

 

Mourinho, who has had a player sent off in all four meetings with Barcelona this season and with Internazionale in last season's semi-final, said that he did not want to say what he "really thinks" because he feared a life ban but he did insist he felt "disgusted" to be working in football. In the end there was little holding back. The accusation was hardly a veiled one.

 

Mourinho claimed his red card and that handed to Pepe were unjustified and that this was not the first time Barcelona's opponents have been singled out for unfair punishment. He reeled off a list of referees whom he said had "favoured" the Catalan side, pointing an accusing finger at those who he sees as engaged in a pro‑Barça conspiracy. He insisted that the evidence is unavoidable and asked: "Why?"

 

"If I tell Uefa what I really think and feel, my career would end now," Mourinho said. "Instead I will just ask a question to which I hope one day to get a response: Why? Why? Why Ovrebo? Why Busacca? Why De Bleeckere? Why Stark? Why? Because every semi-final the same things happen. We are talking about an absolutely fantastic football team, so why do they need that? Why? Why does a team as good as they are need something [extra] that is so obvious that everyone sees it?

 

"Why Ovrebo [two] years ago [when the Norwegian referee did not give Chelsea a series of penalties against Barcelona]? Why couldn't Chelsea go to the final? Last year it was a miracle that Inter got there playing with 10 men for so long. A miracle. Why weren't there four penalties against Chelsea [in 2009]? Why send off [Arsenal's Robin] Van Persie [in the last 16]? Where does their power come from?

 

"It could have been 0-0 tonight, but then suddenly we are down to 10 men and they have a free path to find solutions that they could not find before then: we could have played for three hours and they would not have scored. But today we have seen that it is not difficult – it is impossible.

 

"The question," Mourinho continued, "is why? I don't know if it is the Unicef sponsorship or if it is because they are nice guys. I don't understand. Congratulations to Barcelona on being a great team and congratulations for all the other stuff you have which must be very hard to achieve. They have power and we have no chance. Chelsea had bans for Drogba and Bosingwa; Wenger and Nasri were banned for Arsenal; me today. I don't know why. All I can do is leave that question here in the air and hope that one day I will get the response. They have to get to the final, and they'll get there, full stop."

 

Asked if Madrid, trailing 2-0, were now out, Mourinho replied simply: "Yes, yes." There was a pause and then he added: "We will go there with pride and respect for football. It is a world that sometimes disgusts me to live in and earn a living from, but it is my world. We have to go there without Pepe, who didn't do anything, without [the suspended] Ramos who did nothing, without a coach who can't be on the bench. It is impossible. And if we score a goal and open up the tie a little, they will just kill it again. Tonight we have seen that we do not have any chance."

 

Mourinho sought to discredit Barcelona's 2009 Champions League success and any victory they may have this season.

 

"Josep Guardiola is a fantastic coach," he said, "but I have won two Champions Leagues. He has won [only] one Champions League and that is one that would embarrass me. I would be ashamed to have won it with the scandal of Stamford Bridge and, if he wins it this year, it will be with the scandal of the Bernabéu. I hope that one day he can win a proper Champions League. Deep down, if they are good people, it cannot taste right for them. I hope one day Guardiola has the chance of winning a brilliant, clean championship with no scandal."

 

On their website, Barcelona responded to the Portuguese's comments by threatening to report him to Uefa. "Barcelona's legal department will study the declarations made by José Mourinho to determine whether to refer them to Uefa," a club statement read.

 

"In the post match press conference, Jose Mourinho severely criticised the referee (Wolfgang) Stark and insinuated that Uefa treated Barcelona favourably."

 

He's lost the plot.

 

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"Another miracle with 10 men wasn't possible," said an angry Mourinho, whose side were overwhelmed 5-0 on their previous visit to the Camp Nou this season. "Yes, I think we are eliminated. We will go to Camp Nou with everything and to get a result but I can't see it. We will be without Pepe and (Sergio) Ramos who didn't do anything and neither did I."

 

"I just want to know why? Why did Pepe get sent off? I just want someone to explain. Why did it happen? If I say what I think my career ends today. Sometimes I am a little bit disgusted to live in this world, but this is the world we live in."

 

"If we go there (Nou Camp) and score a goal, they will kill us again. We have no chance. They have to get to the final and that's that."

"Congratulations to a fantastic football team," Mourinho added in bizarre post-match press conference.

 

"But congratulations for all they have as well, it must be difficult to get to get all this power. Where does this power come from?"

 

Mourinho highlighted Barca's semi-final victory over his former club Chelsea in 2009, the Inter Milan semi-final from last season and now "the scandal of the Bernabeu," suggesting unfair red cards were issued to teams playing the Catalan side.

 

"This thing happens in each semi-final," he said. "I am here just to ask this question and I hope to get the answer one day. I respect him (Barca coach Pep Guardiola) a great deal as a coach and a person... but I would like to see him win a Champions League without scandals."

 

c***...and that's before the rest. His lack of respect for the officials tonight was disgutsing

 

If we had a player sent off for a similar challenge, I'd expect Pardew to have a go at the officials tbh.

 

Give over, man. Challenges like Pepe's tonight can ruin knees and subsequently careers.

 

What?  :lol: Yes Pepe raised his foot but there was hardly any contact coz he turned at the last second and if anything it was his back that bumped into Alves. Of course just the way Pinto clutched his face when he ran into Pepe, Alves clutched his knees as if it was already broken. Yes Madrid players like De Maria and Marcelo are divers too but they don't go to the extent of trying to get opponents sent off. Just see how many players have been sent off against Barcelona and how many against Madrid. The number speak for themselves. Regardless of their sometimes brilliant football, the way Barcelona players time and time again crowded the ref trying to get a player off is an embarassment to football.

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High, late and reckless. Far worse than De Jong's on HBA.

 

What an idiotic statement to make  :lol: Now I know that you're not being serious. De Jong's tackle was a scissor tackle which is almost certain in most cases to break a leg. Pepe raised his leg but made very little contact.

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Whoever want's Man Utd to win to be the saviour of football can fuck off right now and clearly have their heads buried in the sand regarding to Man Utd's blantant cheating and Fergie's lack of character towards referee's.

 

The fact is, it's Mourinho that is the common de-factor in every European game that end's in a farce by his awful negaitive, cheating football.  The fact is Barcelona who struggled v Real the last few games had to sink low to adapt their own game.

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those comments from Mourinho are a fucking disgrace - he's surely trying to force his way out of Real as he clearly knows he's never gonna get the better of this Barca team quickly enough

 

maybe if he was given free reign to build his own team full of negative destroyers in his own image he'd get there in the end but it ain't happening at Real let's be honest

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Mourinho's a horrible cunt of a man, would love it if he'd just fuck off from the sport altogether.

 

Brings nothing positive to the sport at all, if I want to see some tosser acting excessively arrogant and talking shite in interviews I'll start watching wrestling again.

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In the lead up to the game, Mourinho was doing his best to put pressure on the ref by pointing out the previous occasions where he'd had a man sent off. Perhaps he needs to consider whether that's wise.

 

It must be very difficult for refs in that situation because if they do issue a red they know they'll get accused of being part of the corrupt conspiracy, and if they don't they'll get accused of succumbing to Mourinho's pressure. So how they keep their judgement relaxed and objective when they have a 50-50 decision, I don't know.

 

For what it's worth, I didn't think it was a red, but if Mourinho tries to mess with the ref's mind before the game, perhaps he can't complain about poor decisions.

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"Another miracle with 10 men wasn't possible," said an angry Mourinho, whose side were overwhelmed 5-0 on their previous visit to the Camp Nou this season. "Yes, I think we are eliminated. We will go to Camp Nou with everything and to get a result but I can't see it. We will be without Pepe and (Sergio) Ramos who didn't do anything and neither did I."

 

"I just want to know why? Why did Pepe get sent off? I just want someone to explain. Why did it happen? If I say what I think my career ends today. Sometimes I am a little bit disgusted to live in this world, but this is the world we live in."

 

"If we go there (Nou Camp) and score a goal, they will kill us again. We have no chance. They have to get to the final and that's that."

"Congratulations to a fantastic football team," Mourinho added in bizarre post-match press conference.

 

"But congratulations for all they have as well, it must be difficult to get to get all this power. Where does this power come from?"

 

Mourinho highlighted Barca's semi-final victory over his former club Chelsea in 2009, the Inter Milan semi-final from last season and now "the scandal of the Bernabeu," suggesting unfair red cards were issued to teams playing the Catalan side.

 

"This thing happens in each semi-final," he said. "I am here just to ask this question and I hope to get the answer one day. I respect him (Barca coach Pep Guardiola) a great deal as a coach and a person... but I would like to see him win a Champions League without scandals."

 

c***...and that's before the rest. His lack of respect for the officials tonight was disgutsing

 

If we had a player sent off for a similar challenge, I'd expect Pardew to have a go at the officials tbh.

 

Give over, man. Challenges like Pepe's tonight can ruin knees and subsequently careers.

 

What?  :lol: Yes Pepe raised his foot but there was hardly any contact coz he turned at the last second and if anything it was his back that bumped into Alves. Of course just the way Pinto clutched his face when he ran into Pepe, Alves clutched his knees as if it was already broken. Yes Madrid players like De Maria and Marcelo are divers too but they don't go to the extent of trying to get opponents sent off. Just see how many players have been sent off against Barcelona and how many against Madrid. The number speak for themselves. Regardless of their sometimes brilliant football, the way Barcelona players time and time again crowded the ref trying to get a player off is an embarassment to football.

 

:lol:

 

 

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Thought the ref last night and also the one doing the manu game were both excellent.

 

The one doing the Man Utd game was, but the ref needed to dish out a lot of cards for blatent dives and didn't last night imho he bottled it.

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Mourinho's a horrible c*** of a man, would love it if he'd just f*** off from the sport altogether.

 

Brings nothing positive to the sport at all, if I want to see some tosser acting excessively arrogant and talking s**** in interviews I'll start watching wrestling again.

 

Best manager of all times. His team is pretty shit and his team is the only one able to beat Barcelona.

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"Another miracle with 10 men wasn't possible," said an angry Mourinho, whose side were overwhelmed 5-0 on their previous visit to the Camp Nou this season. "Yes, I think we are eliminated. We will go to Camp Nou with everything and to get a result but I can't see it. We will be without Pepe and (Sergio) Ramos who didn't do anything and neither did I."

 

"I just want to know why? Why did Pepe get sent off? I just want someone to explain. Why did it happen? If I say what I think my career ends today. Sometimes I am a little bit disgusted to live in this world, but this is the world we live in."

 

"If we go there (Nou Camp) and score a goal, they will kill us again. We have no chance. They have to get to the final and that's that."

"Congratulations to a fantastic football team," Mourinho added in bizarre post-match press conference.

 

"But congratulations for all they have as well, it must be difficult to get to get all this power. Where does this power come from?"

 

Mourinho highlighted Barca's semi-final victory over his former club Chelsea in 2009, the Inter Milan semi-final from last season and now "the scandal of the Bernabeu," suggesting unfair red cards were issued to teams playing the Catalan side.

 

"This thing happens in each semi-final," he said. "I am here just to ask this question and I hope to get the answer one day. I respect him (Barca coach Pep Guardiola) a great deal as a coach and a person... but I would like to see him win a Champions League without scandals."

 

c***...and that's before the rest. His lack of respect for the officials tonight was disgutsing

 

If we had a player sent off for a similar challenge, I'd expect Pardew to have a go at the officials tbh.

 

Give over, man. Challenges like Pepe's tonight can ruin knees and subsequently careers.

 

What?  :lol: Yes Pepe raised his foot but there was hardly any contact coz he turned at the last second and if anything it was his back that bumped into Alves. Of course just the way Pinto clutched his face when he ran into Pepe, Alves clutched his knees as if it was already broken. Yes Madrid players like De Maria and Marcelo are divers too but they don't go to the extent of trying to get opponents sent off. Just see how many players have been sent off against Barcelona and how many against Madrid. The number speak for themselves. Regardless of their sometimes brilliant football, the way Barcelona players time and time again crowded the ref trying to get a player off is an embarassment to football.

 

You must have missed Marcelo v Spurs then, when Crouch was sent off.

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I know Mourinho's doing his usual "us against the world" - however, he needs to look at why on such big occasions, his teams always seem to lack discipline.

 

He's only got himself to blame.

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I know Mourinho's doing his usual "us against the world" - however, he needs to look at why on such big occasions, his teams always seem to lack discipline.

 

He's only got himself to blame.

Like last year when he won the Champions League and Serie A? ???

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I know Mourinho's doing his usual "us against the world" - however, he needs to look at why on such big occasions, his teams always seem to lack discipline.

 

He's only got himself to blame.

Like last year when he won the Champions League and Serie A? ???

 

You know what I mean man.

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I think Mourinho is right; if you look at what he's saying, it's not a case of some big boss in UEFA/FIFA giving the order that Barca win, its just that over time the system is acquiring a bias in their favour. The problem is that the narrative of Barca as the 'good guys' of world football is so strong – and becoming stronger – that it has become an independent actor in itself, mediating our understanding of the event and re-territorialising it within the accepted order of things, even when, as last night, what actually happens exceeds (or falls way short of) our pre-conceptions. 

 

The world's football media is in Madrid, and having spent a week hyping up the Classico of all Classicos, not to mention just signing the new TV deals, self interest and laziness will mix together and lead to the easiest, quickest analysis of this whole farce: a kind of 'he-said, he-said' about Mourinho. Rather than point out that the emperor has no clothes, or comment on the absolute shamelessness of the Spanish about cheating, we get this easy-to-package story about Mourinho losing it, his team losing it. And this just goes into establishing the mythos, deepening the characterisations, confirming the narrative, and when it comes round to next year, the referees will side with the same guys. When you're constantly told that one team are the avatars of Franco's mercenary-Jacobin-crypto-fascismo and then it's pitted against the UNICEF-Angels of Freedom, of course the ref is going one way on marginal calls. 

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