Wullie Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Spoke to Terry Mc about a year ago and he said Ashley and Llambias were absolute arseholes to the point where working for the club was an imbossibility. Said KK would never had walked out if this wasn't the case and would take the job back in an instant under different management. It's a shame if as Hughton has grown bigger than being just a 'yes man' the same has happened to him. Can't help but think there's more to Hughton leaving than simply not being good enough. There's no way this is based purely on results, not a chance, not from the same people who thought JFK was brilliant for scraping a point once every three games. He'll have asked for average Premiership wages probably, or refused to sell Carroll, something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Can't wait to what lies and half truths are put out by the club regarding this if they ever do make a proper statement on why this has happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Spoke to Terry Mc about a year ago and he said Ashley and Llambias were absolute arseholes to the point where working for the club was an imbossibility. Said KK would never had walked out if this wasn't the case and would take the job back in an instant under different management. It's a shame if as Hughton has grown bigger than being just a 'yes man' the same has happened to him. Can't help but think there's more to Hughton leaving than simply not being good enough. Need to bring in Lee Clark just to get Terry Mac back in the dugout. Christmas party will be sorted out in no time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 It has been posted but worth posting again - for a player to come out in public and say that is massive. They are long time mates, I'm not surprised that he's said it. Easy for him to do; he's on his last contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 http://www.leaguemanagers.com/news/news-6690.html 06 Dec 2010 LMA STATEMENT ISSUED REGARDING CHRIS HUGHTON The League Managers Association (LMA) has issued the following statement in relation to Chris Hughton’s departure from Newcastle United Football Club. Following his permanent appointment as manager in October 2009, Chris enjoyed tremendous success with Newcastle, lifting the Championship League title and securing the club's promotion to Barclays Premier League at the first time of asking, with 102 league points. Chris's career as manager of Newcastle got off to an excellent start. In recognition of his achievements, Chris picked up four Football League Manager of Month Awards and was duly named LMA Football League Championship Manager of the Year 2010, as voted for by his peers, the managers in the Championship. This season, Newcastle are currently sitting in 11th position in the Barclays Premier League and under Chris’s guidance have enjoyed memorable victories over Arsenal, Aston Villa and Sunderland. Chris leaves Newcastle with a superb win percentage of 55.71%. Chris Hughton, said: “We have built on last season’s momentum following promotion back up to the Barclays Premier League and have produced some excellent results to see us sitting midway in the table at this stage of the season. I am immensely proud of my achievements with Newcastle and I enjoyed a fantastic relationship with the players, my staff and the supporters during my time as manager. I now wish them and the club all the very best for the future. The termination of my contract is now in the hands of the LMA and I will therefore be making no further comment at this stage.” Richard Bevan, chief executive of the LMA said: “The LMA is extremely disappointed that Newcastle have parted company with Chris given the success the club has experienced since his appointment. Not only did Chris secure promotion back to the Barclays Premier League, but achieved two club records in the process; 102 points to secure promotion and the longest sequence of unbeaten league matches (17). Throughout his time at Newcastle Chris has conducted himself with tremendous integrity and dignity, the team’s current position of 11th in the Barclays Premier League demonstrating the stabilising effect Chris has had in his role as manager during his period at Newcastle.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Didn't know whether I should have posted that (I didn't when I first had the fortune to speak to him and Ashley was trying to sell the club), but after recent events I don't think it really tells us anything we didn't know anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Something must of happended. If not, Ashley and co can seriously fuck off. Hard to remain upbeat after this, tossers. What an absolute joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Both well worth a listen if you haven't already: - Carver fury after Hughton dismissal http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9262221.stm Colin Calderwood shocked by Chris Hughton sacking http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9262152.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenum Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Jeeezus, how many times can Ash**y rape us and not go to jail? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 And if you think that the players and fans should just sit there and not make their voice heard.. then you either don't care that much about NUFC or you're simply a coward. Or a realist? Whats real about not standing up for our club?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 It's almost unimaginable that I was so optimistic when Ashley bought the club just a few years ago. Good God, how that feeling has proved to be unwarranted over and over and over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 It's almost unimaginable that I was so optimistic when Ashley bought the club just a few years ago. Good God, how that feeling has proved to be unwarranted over and over and over again. I'm so sad I was right about Ashley when he joined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Both well worth a listen if you haven't already: - Carver fury after Hughton dismissal http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9262221.stm Colin Calderwood shocked by Chris Hughton sacking http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9262152.stm Listening to these is so hard, especially the Calderwood one where you can tell there are so many things he wants to say but can't legally or otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Martin Jol Has resigned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Martin Jol Has resigned. Giggs has scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Martin Jol Has resigned. Giggs has just scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Has anyone pointed out that Ashley's a cunt? Because all I can keep thinking is that Ashley's a massive, massive cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 :lol: @ Giggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Jol has resigned from Ajax... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Both well worth a listen if you haven't already: - Carver fury after Hughton dismissal http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9262221.stm Colin Calderwood shocked by Chris Hughton sacking http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9262152.stm I would advise everyone not to listen to these, left me totally fuming at the sheer outrageousness of the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Its been difficult holding this in at work all day, so here it goes. This club disgusts me. If I supported somebody else, I know I would hate this club so much. To sack a wonderful man like Hughton who has done above and beyond his duty in this manner is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. It’s completely the wrong decision. For 18 months, I’ve supported a happy, stable club full of likable people and this anti-Newcastle was a breath of fresh air. And suddenly, like déjà vu, the clouds are back. This haunting flashback to relegation year is reprehensible and after recent weeks, we’re gonners now. And to be honest this board deserves to be relegated. We’re falling apart at the seams. Chris, you’re a great great man and thanks for the memories. You’re better off without us and I wish you the very best in everything you do. A wonderful man. I wonder how Enrique, Tiote, Nolan, Ben Arfa, Carroll, Jonas etc are feeling.... And to all those around the world that laugh at NUFC, you’re absolutely right. This club will always be a joke. So keep on laughing. I wish I could. With today’s news and the FIFA debacle, I’m just so so sick of football right now. Never felt like this before. All in all, just a horrible, terrible day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 NUFC.COMs take: So there is a plan? Three and a half years after taking control of the club, Mike Ashley has jettisoned a fourth manager - Chris Hughton following Sam Allardyce, Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer in making a one way trip up Barrack Road. Our own take on Hughton never really changed much - a seemingly decent and honourable bloke whose public statements were routinely bland. That in itself came as something of a relief though, following the bare-faced lies of slack-jawed, FA charge-incurring predecessor, JFK. His own conduct and manner differed markedly from other managers and there was satisfaction to be had from the fact that someone who wasn't a) a former player b) local and c) white, became a popular figure amongst many supporters who were initially ambivalent and/or sceptical. That's one in the eye for messrs Souness/Allardyce and their self-justifying accusations of small-minded regional insularity and our alleged "Messiah" complex. As a manager, he deserves praise for gaining promotion at the first attempt and in some style. From then on though, he and Colin Calderwood came into the unproven category and we'd be lying if we said we were particularly bothered about exit now - it's the identity of his successor that has long been of more over-riding concern to us. Hughton's apparent popularity among the squad led to question marks over the level of discipline, while the matter of player signings also opened up a debate over his level of involvement in the club's transfer dealings. It's yet to be established whether the likes of Leon Best were Hughton signings, or further examples of the deals that brought Xisco and Gonzalez to Tyneside. But even if Hughton did enjoy full authority on acquisitions, then his hand was certainly forced by the financial stringencies he was made to work under - and influenced by a desire to try and retain players he deemed as pivotal. And now, for reasons that may or may not ever be explained, the time has come to do what always looked inevitable. In reality, Chris was undemanding, restrained and as a consequence easy to get rid of - the safe pair of hands to a club with a long history of loose cannons. For that reason alone, swapping "interim" for "permanent" on his job title always looked like a cosmetic exercise. However, his removal surely cannot be based only on the events at The Hawthorns on Sunday - we've been in far worse plights (and league positions) than that, plus the mood of the away crowd could in no way be interpreted as agitating for the manager's head. The opening of the transfer window in just over three weeks time (and the opportunity for ourselves and other clubs to alter their UEFA squad lists) seems to be a more telling stat than that defeat. Those at Goodison Park will doubtless be guffawing more about the situation Dan Gosling now finds himself in, while the future of Hatem Ben Arfa remains open to question, despite his recent "I love the Toon" public comments. Rumours and betting whispers built to a crescendo when Hughton returned to his native East London - with the out-of-work Alan Pardew strongly linked at that point. However victory at Upton Park and the wins over the mackems and Arsenal that then followed saw pundits hacks demanding a new deal for Hughton, rather than proclaiming him to be on borrowed time. After failing to win any of their last five games though, maybe now the club are convinced that Hughton has peaked and feel that the increasingly downbeat mood is more opportune to wheel out their new man. It's not like them to giving a toss about what others think though... Our opinion remains that Hughton over-achieved, given the financial constraints placed on him and the dressing room issues he inherited. Certainly it's hard to make a case for more high profile bosses to have emulated him. However, we harboured long-term reservations in much the same way as the Glenn Roeder appointment - a ready -made fall guy/patsy. "No risk Chris" was our assessment at the time, but we hardly envisaged he'd remain in post for so long. There again, neither did he, if you go back to his soundbites before the start of the 2009/10 season. For United to now decide that what Hughton gave them no longer sufficed would logically mean that finance was forthcoming for the new appointee to enjoy a larger salary, longer contract, more control over staffing and significant squad investment. If that proves not to be the case and a replacement is unveiled that to the average punter looks no different to Hughton, then the anger would surely be felt, for all the sympathy that's rightly evident for the jilted Hughton. For those who subscribe to the theory that Ashley thrives on conflict this seems to be yet another instance of him inverting the Geordie snowshaker - just when the "FCB" and "he don't care about me" chants had subsided. While seeing the SJP exit door swinging open again will inevitably lead to contemplation of previous exits, our initial reaction was to think of what happened with the smoggies, who disposed of that nice Gareth Southgate - and have been stuck firmly in reverse ever since. So, 900+ words to basically say, "f*ck knows". Dont agree at all really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Am I allowed to cry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Am I allowed to cry? It should be compulsory. United find it easy to sack managers, they seem to find it harder to appoint good ones. In Hughton they had someone who had won the respect of the fans, not easy in itself. I have no faith in the fat cockney bastard to now make a decision which will prove to be in the long term interests of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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