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Newcastle stars in revolt

 

Published 23:01 09/12/10 By Simon Bird - Exclusive

 

That confrontation turned into an open shouting match, which saw Llambias accused of appointing a 'casino crony' who will simply be a 'yes man'.

 

Thought the casino remark was interesting, shows the players are savvy to the situation. Not surprised with ours, but generally with footballers you find they really are ignorant of reports of how stuff like this happens. Trust they aren't swallowing this three day appointment process bullshit.

 

I doubt that part to be honest. I'm sure some players are unhappy (and they should be) but doubt any of our players are aware or have the courage to question the casino connection. Sounds to me like exaggerated shit stirring by journalist, just like the use of the word 'revolt'.

 

Obviously giving the report some sort of credence - those sort of remarks in articles seem to turn out to be essentially true more often than not with our club - but I think we've got a higher squad IQ than most (and a more courageous one too), and given the nature of the team ethos I think they're interested enough to be following/digging up this kinds of crap themselves. Hope I'm not wrong about them, anyway. Half the mantra under Hughton was about taking responsibility, not just letting shit wash over you.

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Like to think they will play out of their skin for Hughton on Saturday...celebrating by revealing pro hughton messages.

 

If we score I would expect the players to go straight to the fans and run past the dug out blanking the coaching staff.

 

They should certainly be fired up for Saturday. Could certainly go one way or another. Past this weekend though is anybody's guess. They dont have much choice but to give him a chance, if he is any good I am sure they will take to him, but if he is every bit the cunt he appears to be the half arsed performances will be obvious.

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"Uh, Earth to brint..."

 

Brint: ..its like the way Ashley runs his football club?

Lambias: Or like, doesn't, it's like, ex-squeeze me, but have you ever heard of public relations?

Brint: I'm sure Ashley's heard of public relations, he's a male buisnessman.

Lambias: Uh, earth to Brint, I was making a joke.

Brint: Uh, Earth to Lambias, duh, okay I knew that!

Lambias: Uh earth to Brint, I'm not so sure you did cuz you were all 'well I'm sure he's heard of public relations' like you DIDN'T know it was a joke!

Brint: I knew it was a joke Lambias, I just didn't get it right away!

Lambias: Earth to Brint...

Pardew and Ashley: Would you guys stop it already?

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What amuses me is most people were dead set against Hughton too.

 

Yes whats happened is shit but who fuckin knows what the future holds.

 

 

I find it equally strange that, for many people, it would apparently have been okay if Jol, Klinsmann or O'Neill were brought in. They're bigger names, but who's to say that they'd be better people for this situation? All sorts of assumptions are being made about Pardew's ability, based on very little knowledge or insight.

 

The anger about Pardew being sounded out well in advance is also a bit misplaced. Do people seriously think that doesn't normally happen? That an owner who's unhappy about his manager never approaches anyone else before the actual sacking?

 

This decision is a massive gamble, but one that Ashley felt he needed to take. It's normal to wait until a team is in trouble before making a change, but in this case he's decided to act now. The die is cast, and we just have to hope it works out.

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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

 

You say look at our fixures from now until the new year. What makes you think that Pardew will have a better chance than CH of getting points? Genuine question.

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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

 

You say look at our fixures from now until the new year. What makes you think that Pardew will have a better chance than CH of getting points? Genuine question.

 

Im not saying he will, dont get me wrong, I think the appointment of Pardew is ridiculous. I cant do anymore than hope that he is a good manager, regardless of how he got the job, and that he will get the results that we need. I seriously doubt his ability to motivate the players considering the circumstances, all I am saying is that I can understand why they felt we needed change, and that I think Hughton took us as far as he could. I would love them to replace him for some top-class proven manager, but doubt anyone in that category would come here under the current regime.

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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

 

You say look at our fixures from now until the new year. What makes you think that Pardew will have a better chance than CH of getting points? Genuine question.

 

Im not saying he will, dont get me wrong, I think the appointment of Pardew is ridiculous. I cant do anymore than hope that he is a good manager, regardless of how he got the job, and that he will get the results that we need. I seriously doubt his ability to motivate the players considering the circumstances, all I am saying is that I can understand why they felt we needed change, and that I think Hughton took us as far as he could. I would love them to replace him for some top-class proven manager, but doubt anyone in that category would come here under the current regime.

 

For some reason my computer wont let me Bold , but when you say CH has took us as far as he could, how exactly is this judged? Hes only been here 18 months, (as a manager). Hes only had 16 premiership games. I find this a bizzare statement.

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What amuses me is most people were dead set against Hughton too.

 

Yes whats happened is shit but who fuckin knows what the future holds.

 

 

I find it equally strange that, for many people, it would apparently have been okay if Jol, Klinsmann or O'Neill were brought in. They're bigger names, but who's to say that they'd be better people for this situation? All sorts of assumptions are being made about Pardew's ability, based on very little knowledge or insight.

 

The anger about Pardew being sounded out well in advance is also a bit misplaced. Do people seriously think that doesn't normally happen? That an owner who's unhappy about his manager never approaches anyone else before the actual sacking?

 

This decision is a massive gamble, but one that Ashley felt he needed to take. It's normal to wait until a team is in trouble before making a change, but in this case he's decided to act now. The die is cast, and we just have to hope it works out.

 

It depends at the end of the day whether you have trust in Ashley or Llambias' judgement on Pardew's ability. I admit I don't know that much about him other than his inability to make use of Mascherano and Tevez and penchant for sleeping with club staff wives. I wouldn't have been in any position to make the call that Pardew is the man to guide our future for the next 5 years. But the club have gone out of their way to make sure he is that man so the onus is on them and Pardew to prove that judgement was sound.

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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

Getting rid of Chris has done more damage to our stability in the  short term and could see us plummitting down the table and me and many others will not give Pardew time as he is not wanted or needed here .
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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

 

You say look at our fixures from now until the new year. What makes you think that Pardew will have a better chance than CH of getting points? Genuine question.

 

Im not saying he will, dont get me wrong, I think the appointment of Pardew is ridiculous. I cant do anymore than hope that he is a good manager, regardless of how he got the job, and that he will get the results that we need. I seriously doubt his ability to motivate the players considering the circumstances, all I am saying is that I can understand why they felt we needed change, and that I think Hughton took us as far as he could. I would love them to replace him for some top-class proven manager, but doubt anyone in that category would come here under the current regime.

 

For some reason my computer wont let me Bold , but when you say CH has took us as far as he could, how exactly is this judged? Hes only been here 18 months, (as a manager). Hes only had 16 premiership games. I find this a bizzare statement.

 

Well, unfortunately I cant see into the future. Maybe Hughton would have won us the next 5 and secured our place in this division. But looking at our last 5, and out next 5 games my personal opinion is that we have been very poor, and I could not see us taking many points in the games ahead based on the way we have played recently. 19-20 points around new years and we would probably be in the relegation sone. Would people be this supportive of Hughton then? Would people have stood by Hughtons side if we were relegated?

 

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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

 

You say look at our fixures from now until the new year. What makes you think that Pardew will have a better chance than CH of getting points? Genuine question.

 

Im not saying he will, dont get me wrong, I think the appointment of Pardew is ridiculous. I cant do anymore than hope that he is a good manager, regardless of how he got the job, and that he will get the results that we need. I seriously doubt his ability to motivate the players considering the circumstances, all I am saying is that I can understand why they felt we needed change, and that I think Hughton took us as far as he could. I would love them to replace him for some top-class proven manager, but doubt anyone in that category would come here under the current regime.

 

For some reason my computer wont let me Bold , but when you say CH has took us as far as he could, how exactly is this judged? Hes only been here 18 months, (as a manager). Hes only had 16 premiership games. I find this a bizzare statement.

 

Well, unfortunately I cant see into the future. Maybe Hughton would have won us the next 5 and secured our place in this division. But looking at our last 5, and out next 5 games my personal opinion is that we have been very poor, and I could not see us taking many points in the games ahead based on the way we have played recently. 19-20 points around new years and we would probably be in the relegation sone. Would people be this supportive of Hughton then? Would people have stood by Hughtons side if we were relegated?

 

 

exactly, you cant see into the future, so how on earth do you come to the conclusion that CH has took us as far as he can? You have also based this on him spending literally no money. The points we have, we on on course to stay in the league with players still to come back from injuries and suspensions etc.

 

The decision was not made based on the last few games, it was made a long time ago to bring their mate in. Sacking CH will surely only have a negative affect. I am happy to be proved wrong.

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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

 

You say look at our fixures from now until the new year. What makes you think that Pardew will have a better chance than CH of getting points? Genuine question.

 

Im not saying he will, dont get me wrong, I think the appointment of Pardew is ridiculous. I cant do anymore than hope that he is a good manager, regardless of how he got the job, and that he will get the results that we need. I seriously doubt his ability to motivate the players considering the circumstances, all I am saying is that I can understand why they felt we needed change, and that I think Hughton took us as far as he could. I would love them to replace him for some top-class proven manager, but doubt anyone in that category would come here under the current regime.

 

For some reason my computer wont let me Bold , but when you say CH has took us as far as he could, how exactly is this judged? Hes only been here 18 months, (as a manager). Hes only had 16 premiership games. I find this a bizzare statement.

 

Well, unfortunately I cant see into the future. Maybe Hughton would have won us the next 5 and secured our place in this division. But looking at our last 5, and out next 5 games my personal opinion is that we have been very poor, and I could not see us taking many points in the games ahead based on the way we have played recently. 19-20 points around new years and we would probably be in the relegation sone. Would people be this supportive of Hughton then? Would people have stood by Hughtons side if we were relegated?

 

 

exactly, you cant see into the future, so how on earth do you come to the conclusion that CH has took us as far as he can? You have also based this on him spending literally no money. The points we have, we on on course to stay in the league with players still to come back from injuries and suspensions etc.

 

The decision was not made based on the last few games, it was made a long time ago to bring their mate in. Sacking CH will surely only have a negative affect. I am happy to be proved wrong.

 

Like I said, I came to that conclusion based on the performances in our last games. Our form is relegation form. The only 2 points from our last 5 games was against other teams that are crap at the moment. (In the form-table we are 17th, Chelsea 15th and Fulham 20th).

 

I like Hughton very much, and he clearly deserved time based on what he did for us last year. But how much time should he get? Should we stick by him no matter what because he got us back into this league? I would love Hughton to stay here and keep us up, but the way things have been going, I could not see that happening. Again, just my view.

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This is all a bit over the top for me. I dont like the treatment of Hughton any more than the rest of you, but it is not like we have hired Joe Kinnear again. Ashley have proven that he is clueless when it comes to running a football-club, but I for one can understand why they felt Hughtons time was up.

 

No doubt Hughton is a perfect gentleman and all that, but is he a good football-manager? Yes he did very well last year, no doubt, much better than anyone would have thought. But looking at our fixture list from now and until new years, I think there is a good chance we would have gone 10 games without a victory and find ourselves in, or very close to the relegation sone. Would he have the same support then? We have had som great results this season, but mainly in the "big games". I question Hughtons abilities to motivate the players for games against lesser opposition, like WBA, Blackpool, Bolton et. al. Our games against WBA, Bolton, 2nd half Stoke, and Blackburn is some of the worst I can remember. Off course against Sunderland, Arsenal and City we were very good, but to stay in this division we can not afford to loose against our relegation rivals.

 

Off course it would make much more sense to appoint a proven manager with a record of success, and dont get me wrong, I dont like Pardew and the process behind his appointment any more than you do. But I will give him a chance, and if, (big if) it turns out he actually is a good manager, and wins us important points I believe all this hostility soon will disappear.

 

I just dont think protesting and all that will do anything other than upsetting the players, and thats the last thing we need. If it is one thing these last seasons have showed us, it is that club-owners dont care about protests and hostility.

 

You say look at our fixures from now until the new year. What makes you think that Pardew will have a better chance than CH of getting points? Genuine question.

 

Im not saying he will, dont get me wrong, I think the appointment of Pardew is ridiculous. I cant do anymore than hope that he is a good manager, regardless of how he got the job, and that he will get the results that we need. I seriously doubt his ability to motivate the players considering the circumstances, all I am saying is that I can understand why they felt we needed change, and that I think Hughton took us as far as he could. I would love them to replace him for some top-class proven manager, but doubt anyone in that category would come here under the current regime.

For starters Chris has had a very limited budget and done very well  considering his lack of experience,yes he has made a couple of dodgy signings i.e Best and Perch but too say he has took us as far as he can is going abit too far .
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