Stu Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Situ opted for Swansea rather than us as our offer couldn't compete. Which is a concern given that he'd be on a relatively low wage. Why? What has he achieved so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 COLIN KAZIM-RICHARDS NICKY SHOREY PAUL KONCHESKY PETER CROUCH FEDERICO MACHEDA KENWYNE JONES f***ing glad that Pardew isn't the one who takes all the transfer decisions. Absolutely rubbish players. Worrying stuff. Shocking list. Saying that, I rate Jones more than Ba. Why? Ba has a way better scoring record. Would have had Ba 10 out of 10 times myself. Because I hate Ba's kind of "I'd rather fuck off to another club than get on with a certain situation" character. I'm not convinced from a footballing point of view, either btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised if half of that list is more PR stuff - "It's a good job we didn't panic buy or look who our manager would have us buy! Phew!" I think you are right. I don't know why they bother though because their "PR exercises" are so transparent these days that they are no longer fooling anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Varane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised if half of that list is more PR stuff - "It's a good job we didn't panic buy or look who our manager would have us buy! Phew!" I think you are right. I don't know why they bother though because their "PR exercises" are so transparent these days that they are no longer fooling anyone. If that article is a PR exercise by the club then it's badly misdirected. It emphasises the fact that those who do the final negotiations to bring players in (.i.e. Llambias) are totally incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 If that article is a PR exercise by the club then it's badly misdirected. It emphasises the fact that those who do the final negotiations to bring players in (.i.e. Llambias) are totally incompetent. It also emphasises that Pardew should have no say in player transfers if his list of wanted players is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 If that article is a PR exercise by the club then it's badly misdirected. It emphasises the fact that those who do the final negotiations to bring players in (.i.e. Llambias) are totally incompetent. It also emphasises that Pardew should have no say in player transfers if his list of wanted players is true. I reckon it is as true as the list we saw come out after Keegan had to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 If that article is a PR exercise by the club then it's badly misdirected. It emphasises the fact that those who do the final negotiations to bring players in (.i.e. Llambias) are totally incompetent. It also emphasises that Pardew should have no say in player transfers if his list of wanted players is true. I reckon it is as true as the list we saw come out after Keegan had to leave Very different situation though, the Keegan list was clearly aimed at denting the reputation of an ex manager who had walked out. Pardew is still here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 It concerns me that our transfers are done purely on a business basis rather than what is best for the football team. For example, we need a left-back. We target Cissokho and his club value him at say 12m but we offer 8m, then we offer PSV 6m for Pieters but they want 7m so instead we buy Santon, a right-back who can play at left-back for 5m. Now Santon might end being a fantastic player but in the end I get the impression that we have gone for the cheapest option (and also potentially the one with the highest resale fee) as we were supposedly prepared to pay a higher fee (albeit below their club's valuations) for other players rather than what is best for the team. If we are prepared to go as high as 8m for one player, why not pay 7m for the alternative. Maybe I am being unfair, but I wonder if you had a choice of all 3 players and ignoring the price, which player would have been the preferred option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Probably for the best Pardew's kept away from transfers then. Add that to the Sidwell and Carlton Cole requests in January, pretty shocking like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 If that article is a PR exercise by the club then it's badly misdirected. It emphasises the fact that those who do the final negotiations to bring players in (.i.e. Llambias) are totally incompetent. It also emphasises that Pardew should have no say in player transfers if his list of wanted players is true. I reckon it is as true as the list we saw come out after Keegan had to leave Very different situation though, the Keegan list was clearly aimed at denting the reputation of an ex manager who had walked out. Pardew is still here. Pardew is their little puppet really, they can ruin his reputation as much as they like BUT they know he is not going anywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised if half of that list is more PR stuff - "It's a good job we didn't panic buy or look who our manager would have us buy! Phew!" Jonny that is being double cynical which really does you no credit. First of all you're assuming that the list in Sundaysun is somehow accurate and notwithstanding that, you come out with the whole PR thing. It's an accusation on top of an assumption which really has little basis. I'm as miffed as anyone that we didn't get a striker, in fact I rated our transfer window a '3' in its thread simply because I endorsed the Carroll sale provided we get a replacement and it was clear that we need a striker to push on. I have no doubt that being tight fisted and trying to always get a bargain backfired but I just don't buy the whole fake bid conspiracy theory mainly because whether we like it or not cunt Ashley does not give a damn of what we think of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Press conference on thursday will certainly be interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Why does anyone think that a list of player names from a newspaper represents our real targets? It's mental. Surely if we had wanted all those shit players the club are getting criticised for targeting, we would have signed them. The fake bids and PR exercise shit is also bordering on insanity. As if the club is bothered about who we're linked to in the press. There are plenty of real things the club has done wrong, don't see why we need to invent new ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 c*** Ashley does not give a damn of what we think of him. He does and that's why the singing section has gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 If that article is a PR exercise by the club then it's badly misdirected. It emphasises the fact that those who do the final negotiations to bring players in (.i.e. Llambias) are totally incompetent. It also emphasises that Pardew should have no say in player transfers if his list of wanted players is true. I reckon it is as true as the list we saw come out after Keegan had to leave What, you mean Keegan didn't quit because Ashley wouldn't give him 200 million pounds to sign Frank Lampard, David Beckham and Thierry Henry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 c*** Ashley does not give a damn of what we think of him. He does and that's why the singing section has gone. He does what Mick? you mean he cares what we think of him??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 COLIN KAZIM-RICHARDS NICKY SHOREY PAUL KONCHESKY PETER CROUCH FEDERICO MACHEDA KENWYNE JONES f***ing glad that Pardew isn't the one who takes all the transfer decisions. Absolutely rubbish players. Worrying stuff. Shocking list. Saying that, I rate Jones more than Ba. You do? Based on what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I've come to loathe it when journalists base their articles on "unnamed sources". It's carte-blanche to fill in the blanks with made up stuff. That being said, I don't think we want Pardew identifying transfer targets. I hope we don't just focus on France. Can't we get intensive scouting in other countries? The January window will be primarily used to negotiate with Bosman's for the summer? It is likely we'll attempt to sign a striker on the cheap in January or bring in an unpopular loan for the rest of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Isn't Barnetta's contract up next summer? Bet the board are counting down the days until they can approach.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 He does what Mick? you mean he cares what we think of him??? Ashley hates getting stick off the fans, he cares what people think of him but tries to make it look as if he doesn't give a shit in the hope that people will just give up. He put the club up for sale after the fans started singing about him and he's closed the singing section, of course he gives a damn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Barnetta, Douglas at Twente, Breno at Bayern, Rodellega and Diame at Wigan and Kalou all out of contract next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Barnetta, Douglas at Twente, Breno at Bayern, Rodellega and Diame at Wigan and Kalou all out of contract next summer. Would be great if we got Douglas cheap in january. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 He does what Mick? you mean he cares what we think of him??? Ashley hates getting stick off the fans, he cares what people think of him but tries to make it look as if he doesn't give a s*** in the hope that people will just give up. He put the club up for sale after the fans started singing about him and he's closed the singing section, of course he gives a damn. I disagree but my point has to be more nuanced. He used to care when he was doing the whole "I'm just like an average fan" persona and buying drinks for fans. But now he just does not give a dam anymore, otherwise how else do you explain the fact that we did not get a striker when most fans you ask would likely say that was the one position we needed to strengthened? Surely even the thick cunt could see that not buying a striker would increase fans hatred of him. I for one am not placated by our failed bids, we had to get a striker and we didn't, end of story. It's naive of anyone to think that fans would go "oh well at least we tried", football fans just don't operate like that, it's very black and white (pun not intended) I don't think he makes it look like he doesn't give a shit so that people give up, that' giving him way too much credit. He has a set of principles which unfortunately just does not work in running a football club and he's sticking by those principles regardless of what we think of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Barnetta, Douglas at Twente, Breno at Bayern, Rodellega and Diame at Wigan and Kalou all out of contract next summer. You've did their scouting for them already - if they sign more than half of them claim a finders fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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