Alan Pardew

[alpal78]

i give thanks to jesus that you are not our manager.

 

 

good debate and intelligent points...well done, give yourself a pat on the back

[Zero]

Tell me what means by offense is the best attack.

[TherealnorthernTOON]

i give thanks to jesus that you are not our manager.

 

 

good debate and intelligent points...well done, give yourself a pat on the back

 

This is just a typical example on how the forum mostly have two modes. Either it's we're gonna win da lig, or it's everything about the club suck, sack them all and start fresh. This scapegoating has to stop, it's evident that we have a small squad, players will have off days. And we don't have squat to say when they play poorly atm. because there is no one to come in and do a better job. Season so far has been tremendous and we should embrace it for what it's worth. My personal hope is 60 points, and that would be tremendous progress. Hopefully the rest of the squad will be assessed in the right manner during the summer and we can push on and repeat the buisness of this season into the next and cement our position as one of the top clubs instead of the middle/lower-bracket clubs.

[Dr Venkman]

i give thanks to jesus that you are not our manager.

 

 

good debate and intelligent points...well done, give yourself a pat on the back

And we don't have squat to say when they play poorly atm. because there is no one to come in and do a better job.

 

That's bollocks. Santon was kept out of the team for half a season and Ben Arfa still can't get a game.

[alpal78]

Tell me what means by offense is the best attack.

 

my mistake then, should be offence is the best defense and I think the meaning is obvious, the more pressure we put on opposing teams or the more they think that they are opened to counter attack, then the less players they commit forward which helps us defensively.

 

The other point I was making which you seem to ignore is if we want to have a defensive winger against managerless Wolves at home, then what does that say of our style of play and commitment to play attacking football.

[ATB]

Even if I can agree with this to some extent it wouldn´t have been a great idé at Tottenham. He hadn´t the player and should have been playing deeper in the defence.

[alpal78]

Even if I can agree with this to some extent it wouldn´t have been a great idé at Tottenham. He hadn´t the player and should have been playing deeper in the defence.

 

Of course its all conjecture, but I think playing HBA instead of Obertan gainst Spurs would have at least kept their defenders on their toes. With Obertan, their fullback was overlapping and we were under wave and wave of attacks.

[ATB]

Even if I can agree with this to some extent it wouldn´t have been a great idé at Tottenham. He hadn´t the player and should have been playing deeper in the defence.

 

Of course its all conjecture, but I think playing HBA instead of Obertan gainst Spurs would have at least kept their defenders on their toes. With Obertan, their fullback was overlapping and we were under wave and wave of attacks.

 

Ah. Maybe. But Arfa wasn´t the type of player that was missing. Think Raylor was a bigger loss. With him in the team the first goal probably wasn´t going to happen. If Tioté and Cabaye was playing then Arfa may have been a alternative.

 

Anyway. Was thinking about his comment. Really strange and far away from anything we have seen from him before. For me he seems very emotionally and frustrated with the players he had in the midfield, and not calm with carefully weighed words. Don´t know what to think of it. In some sense it quite refreshing but still maybe not. As I said, he sounds very frustrating for some reason.

 

In-playing that Raylor is a key player - well I would though: not that good.

[Guest reefatoon]

Dear me, the doom and gloom!!!

 

Come on here for a bit of football chat and stuff and end up leaving as miserable as fuck.

 

You would never think we are where we are when you read through some of these threads like.

 

1. Pardew - Tactically inept, rubbish and not good enough

2. Krul - Kicking is garbage and gives the ball away

3 - Simpson - Abomination of a fullback, worst in the league, must get rid.

4 - Santon - Rubbish at defending, never picks up a man, looks lost

5 - Williamson - Championship standard at best, should be nowhere near our team, totally crap.

6 - Colo - Far too slow and now too old, get shot.

7 - S Taylor - always injured needs replaced

8 - Obertan - Worst player to ever wear the black and white shirt, never a footballer, can't kick, dribble, run, pass or tie his own shoe laces.

9 - Guti - Plays too deep, has no end product always wastes the ball.

10 - Tiote - always getting booked, suspended too many times.

11 - Cabaye - Seems to have avoided most of the flack so far.

12 - Ben Arfa - Probably the best footballer to ever grace this Earth, virgins should be burned to the god of Arfa.

13 - Ba - Plays well but will always be at the ACN and at ramadan he is shit.

14 - Cisse - Always offside

14 - Shola - Deserves all the stick actually.

15 - Perch - See above

16 - R Taylor - Can play in many positions but is shit in them all

 

The rest of them not mentioned are just rubbish and not worth a mention and need replacing in the summer

 

Dear me, we are royally fucked like with this squad of no hopers!

 

I am sure the moaning and groaning wasn't as bad the season we went down.

 

Right, now I am off noose shopping.

[Dave]

Yep, that's what you get if you take a shitload of different opinions from different people (selecting only the negative ones of course) and put them all together into one post as though that's what 'the forum' thinks when in reality it is completely meaningless.

[Elliottman]

Dear me, the doom and gloom!!!

 

Come on here for a bit of football chat and stuff and end up leaving as miserable as f***.

 

You would never think we are where we are when you read through some of these threads like.

 

1. Pardew - Tactically inept, rubbish and not good enough

2. Krul - Kicking is garbage and gives the ball away

3 - Simpson - Abomination of a fullback, worst in the league, must get rid.

4 - Santon - Rubbish at defending, never picks up a man, looks lost

5 - Williamson - Championship standard at best, should be nowhere near our team, totally crap.

6 - Colo - Far too slow and now too old, get shot.

7 - S Taylor - always injured needs replaced

8 - Obertan - Worst player to ever wear the black and white shirt, never a footballer, can't kick, dribble, run, pass or tie his own shoe laces.

9 - Guti - Plays too deep, has no end product always wastes the ball.

10 - Tiote - always getting booked, suspended too many times.

11 - Cabaye - Seems to have avoided most of the flack so far.

12 - Ben Arfa - Probably the best footballer to ever grace this Earth, virgins should be burned to the god of Arfa.

13 - Ba - Plays well but will always be at the ACN and at ramadan he is s***.

14 - Cisse - Always offside

14 - Shola - Deserves all the stick actually.

15 - Perch - See above

16 - R Taylor - Can play in many positions but is s*** in them all

 

The rest of them not mentioned are just rubbish and not worth a mention and need replacing in the summer

 

Dear me, we are royally f***ed like with this squad of no hopers!

 

I am sure the moaning and groaning wasn't as bad the season we went down.

 

Right, now I am off noose shopping.

 

But you've not mentioned any of the positive comments about players? So you post is effectivley a heap of shit.

[NEEJ]

Post shot to pieces in just over a minute. Boom

[TRon]

Dear me, the doom and gloom!!!

 

Come on here for a bit of football chat and stuff and end up leaving as miserable as fuck.

 

You would never think we are where we are when you read through some of these threads like.

 

1. Pardew - Tactically inept, rubbish and not good enough

2. Krul - Kicking is garbage and gives the ball away

3 - Simpson - Abomination of a fullback, worst in the league, must get rid.

4 - Santon - Rubbish at defending, never picks up a man, looks lost

5 - Williamson - Championship standard at best, should be nowhere near our team, totally crap.

6 - Colo - Far too slow and now too old, get shot.

7 - S Taylor - always injured needs replaced

8 - Obertan - Worst player to ever wear the black and white shirt, never a footballer, can't kick, dribble, run, pass or tie his own shoe laces.

9 - Guti - Plays too deep, has no end product always wastes the ball.

10 - Tiote - always getting booked, suspended too many times.

11 - Cabaye - Seems to have avoided most of the flack so far.

12 - Ben Arfa - Probably the best footballer to ever grace this Earth, virgins should be burned to the god of Arfa.

13 - Ba - Plays well but will always be at the ACN and at ramadan he is shit.

14 - Cisse - Always offside

14 - Shola - Deserves all the stick actually.

15 - Perch - See above

16 - R Taylor - Can play in many positions but is shit in them all

 

The rest of them not mentioned are just rubbish and not worth a mention and need replacing in the summer

 

Dear me, we are royally fucked like with this squad of no hopers!

 

I am sure the moaning and groaning wasn't as bad the season we went down.

 

Right, now I am off noose shopping.

 

Do you think the mood would be so deflated if we'd lost a close tussle 2-1? Because I don't. I think fans only tend to get really downhearted when we get pasted 5-0 and don't even look like we belong on the same pitch...or when we ship 5 to a team like Fulham. In the event you are going to get some people who are disappointed, what did you expect?

 

Let's have some perspective here, no one is pissed because we lost, more with the manner of the defeat I would say.

[alpal78]

Post shot to pieces in just over a minute. Boom

 

Pity it must have taken some time to post such a long post too   

 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

A post that baseless is the clear sign of a WUM like.

[Guest]

The defeat and manner of it actually reminded me of the 5-0 at Chelsea during the 03-04 season.

[Guest reefatoon]

Damn no nooses left or is is neese?

 

I wasn't on a wind up, thought it was a little tongue in cheek. I just look through the threads and they all feel so doom and gloom and apocalyptic.  Are our players really that bad though?  I just feel (especially as a team) that they are actually doing fantastic.

 

Yeah spurs game was an absolute shambles, but sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and admit you were completely outplayed by a better team on the day. It happens to teams all the time.

 

I am just a little surprised at the hatred for so many players.  I actually think this is the best bunch of players we have had for a while, especially when you look back at some of the highly paid, couldn't give a shit brigade we have had in the past.

 

Yeah some of them are lacking technically but as a team they are doing amazingly well.

 

I am dreading Neej coming back with another BOOM, as it cuts to the core I tells ya.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

You've got a point to be fair, the criticism of a team that is massively overachieving is strange, and probably mainly due to the manner of the thrashing by Spurs. Like all football fans we're highly fickle and exaggerate our positive and negative feelings/opinions based on results from week to week.

[colinmk]

You've got a point to be fair, the criticism of a team that is massively overachieving is strange, and probably mainly due to the manner of the thrashing by Spurs. Like all football fans we're highly fickle and exaggerate our positive and negative feelings/opinions based on results from week to week.

 

Massively overachieving?!

[The College Dropout]

Even if I can agree with this to some extent it wouldn´t have been a great idé at Tottenham. He hadn´t the player and should have been playing deeper in the defence.

 

Of course its all conjecture, but I think playing HBA instead of Obertan gainst Spurs would have at least kept their defenders on their toes. With Obertan, their fullback was overlapping and we were under wave and wave of attacks.

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

You've got a point to be fair, the criticism of a team that is massively overachieving is strange, and probably mainly due to the manner of the thrashing by Spurs. Like all football fans we're highly fickle and exaggerate our positive and negative feelings/opinions based on results from week to week.

 

Massively overachieving?!

 

Well we're having a great season that is beyond most people's expectations. Maybe massively is exaggerating, but you know what I mean.

[alpal78]

Even if I can agree with this to some extent it wouldn´t have been a great idé at Tottenham. He hadn´t the player and should have been playing deeper in the defence.

 

 

Of course its all conjecture, but I think playing HBA instead of Obertan gainst Spurs would have at least kept their defenders on their toes. With Obertan, their fullback was overlapping and we were under wave and wave of attacks.

 

 

 

Another intelligent response...well done!

[The Prophet]

Even if I can agree with this to some extent it wouldn´t have been a great idé at Tottenham. He hadn´t the player and should have been playing deeper in the defence.

 

Of course its all conjecture, but I think playing HBA instead of Obertan gainst Spurs would have at least kept their defenders on their toes. With Obertan, their fullback was overlapping and we were under wave and wave of attacks.

 

Personally I don't think it would have made any difference to the fullback getting forward at all. If Ben Arfa was a traditional wide man perhaps, but he constantly floats inside attempting to find space for a dribble or pass. Don't get me wrong this isn't a criticism, you only have to look at Mata at Chelsea as an example of a wide playmaker who does this very well, it's intelligant play and makes him a constant threat throughout the game.

 

During the game the forwards had so little of the ball and were so poor when they did I doubt Ben Arfa would have influenced the game at all. I would have played him over Obertan of course, but I doubt it would have impacted on the result.

[The College Dropout]

Even if I can agree with this to some extent it wouldn´t have been a great idé at Tottenham. He hadn´t the player and should have been playing deeper in the defence.

 

Of course its all conjecture, but I think playing HBA instead of Obertan gainst Spurs would have at least kept their defenders on their toes. With Obertan, their fullback was overlapping and we were under wave and wave of attacks.

 

Personally I don't think it would have made any difference to the fullback getting forward at all. If Ben Arfa was a traditional wide man perhaps, but he constantly floats inside attempting to find space for a dribble or pass. Don't get me wrong this isn't a criticism, you only have to look at Mata at Chelsea as an example of a wide playmaker who does this very well, it's intelligant play and makes him a constant threat throughout the game.

 

During the game the forwards had so little of the ball and were so poor when they did I doubt Ben Arfa would have influenced the game at all. I would have played him over Obertan of course, but I doubt it would have impacted on the result.

 

I thought this was obvious. We didn't have the ball for any period any attacking changes would've made little difference. I've said this before but I really wonder how long some of you have been following football or if you've played in any sports.

 

There's no point a boxer worrying about his weak left handed body shot if he doesn't protect himself. This wasn't a case of giving Spurs too much respect. We went man for man and started pretty high up and they DESTROYED us.

[Guest]

I actually don't think we're overachieving at all, I just think people were being pussies over the summer with all the doom and gloom, and underestimated how good our players are and who were bought. Obviously we have improvements to be made, but our position matches our ability imo.