Alan Pardew

[NG32]

Allardyce is a better manager than Pardew whose football philsophies is actually quite similar to that of our former manager, stats based, percentages football, solid defence, direct football. We've put in many a poor performance under Pardew as we did under Allardyce. Pardew is just more slick and more likeable if you like as a personality. Big Sam was welcomed here with open arms by most on his appointment but as soon as we got a billionaire owner fans' attitudes started to change and he become quite the scapegoat. That said, some of the results and performances under him helped to underline fans' attitude towards him which didn't help his cause. I still believe, we'd have stayed

 

Sam Allerdyce's football was diabolical, every team has bad games and yeah weve played poorly at times but we have had some highlights.  Under Allerdyce there were no highights.  Right from the off he was trying to "stodge" games out by stopping the other team.  Fuck all time was spent looking at breaking down the other team, when goals came it always felt like it was pure luck rather then team work.

 

He had one set style of play regardless of what players he had, for example he tried his 4-3-3 with owen and martins in the front three...rather than play to their abilities he was having the full backs launch the balls to them.  They were then having to challenge centrebacks who had nearly 2 feet in height on them.  Man it was fucking painful.

 

Should he have been sacked, no...it should have been done at the end of the season. 

 

Was he a scapegoat...no, not at all..his football style was hidious and only worthy of teams in the late 80s and early 90s.

 

And shyte like Stoke, look at Swansea and Norwich man, streets ahead of that dick head and pulis.

 

Pardew, i was never interested in him nor wanted him but he has won me over...are we perfect ?  Nah no way near but what im watching now compared to the shte allerdyce was producing, its a hundered times better.

 

When fat head was here it always seemed to be about him and his career and what he does...if you notice whenever he speaks he always tries to take all the accolades when things go right but is the first one to trott out "it wasn't my fault" when things go wrong.

 

Thans man an odious cunt, I whish nothing but small and minor incoveniences for the rest of his life. The horrible bastard.

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

Nice article about the team from Simon Bird, actually -

 

 

Asked what it felt like to look at the Premier League table and see Newcastle United in fifth place and pushing for Europe, Demba Ba produced a wonderful answer on Sunday night.

 

Putting his finger perfectly on the mood on Tyneside he simply said: "Whoaah."

 

It neatly encapsulated the thrill, wonder and cautious happiness that Alan Pardew's team have conjured with their - so far - enthralling season.

 

The "Whoaah" moment also hinted at the surprise the world (outside the Newcastle dressing room) seems to feel at seeing the Geordies climbing so high, and keeping pace with the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

 

However the more we talks to Newcastle players in our weekly interview slot the more it seems they are not that shocked, and had targeted this kind of charge all along.

 

Hearing the likes of Yohan Cabaye and Shola Amoebi, one new to the town, and other a veteran of United's last continental adventures, say that Pardew and the players had a UEFA Cup spot in their sights even at the start of the season, adds to the conviction that they can hang on in there.

 

But there are other reasons emerging why, having overcome a couple of blips in form and an upsetting FA Cup exit at Brighton, Pardew's side might achieve their dream.

 

Firstly the arrival of Papiss Demba Cisse adds a whole new dimension of problems for rival defences.

 

His impact was immediate on Sunday when he came on in the 13th minute and scored in the 71st, a debut goal and volley that show he is an instinctive natural goal scorer.

 

Before that Cisse's slick movement helped get him free for two headers that he might have done better with. But as Alan Shearer used to say, if you're getting in the right positions, the goals will come.

 

Cisse will also add impetus by being an unknown quantity for Premier League defences. Word will not be out on how to play him, what his big strengths are, and if there is a way to stop him, for a good few weeks yet as he beds in.

 

He is also likely to form a strong partnership with Ba, the undisputed signing of the season who helped sell Cisse on a move to Newcastle before the deal was clinched.

 

There are other reasons that the challenge can be sustained.

 

I have argued earlier in the season that Newcastle have a very good first XI, but when injuries and suspensions bite, then they dip alarmingly.

 

But since then momentum has built, and reserve players have become battle hardened, and really stepped up their game.

 

For instance when Cheik Tiote went off to the African Nations' Cup he could have been a huge miss. But thankfully Danny Guthrie has filled the gap expertly.

I witnessed Danny tramping out of St James's Park before kick off earlier in the season because he hadn't made the squad. He was heading for his car, and home, rather than watch the match, such was his disappointment.

What a response he has produced when handed his opportunity. He was arguably the man of the match against Aston Villa. The onus was on him to be the side's creative force in the absence of the suspended Cabaye. He rarely give the ball away, and ran the centre of midfield.

 

He has improved in leaps and bounds in the last couple of years, perhaps taking something from training with the likes of Cabaye and Tiote very day. A new contract will surely follow soon

 

Other so called stand-by players have excelled too. James Perch has fitted in well at centre back or as a holding midfielder adding steel. This from a player who, it is fair to say, had not inspired the locals much previously.

 

Then there has been Ryan Taylor moving back into the team after his heroics earlier in the season and doing good work on the right of midfield, instead of right back.

 

Newcastle have gained a reputation for hard work and commitment this season which is elevating a team with quality, onto a higher plane than the likes of Aston Villa, who have quality but not the appetite for running, closing down and team work.

 

Long may that continue.

 

And it is likely to because Pardew has a good way of keeping the commitment levels high.

ProZone stats are pinned up on the wall at the training ground for all players to study. If anyone shirks or dips from their usual levels, it is on show, leaving them accountable to their team mates.

 

No one in Pardew's squad wants to be exposed as letting the side down on the effort front.

Demba Ba and his team mates will change the whoaah- factor to a wow- factor, if they can see out the job and stay in the top five or six.

It has been a theme of Alan Pardew's first full season in charge that people connected with the club have proved they have the finger on the pulse of the town, and shown classy touches.

 

This is a small example away from the cut and thrust of winning points, but take for instance Sunday night, when club skipper Fabricio Coloccini picked up the North East Football Writers' Player of 2011 award.

 

Pardew brought his entire back room staff to the dinner as a show of support, a gesture that impressed.

 

Coaches John Carver, Steve Stone, reserve boss Willie Donachie, U18 boss Dave Watson and Academy chief Joe Joyce sat on an impressive Newcastle United table.

 

Keeper Steve Harper and former favourites Alan Shearer and Steve Howey were all present too.

 

Pardew is winning friends on and off the pitch on Tyneside because he knows that attention to small details matters.

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/simon-bird/Newcastle-column-Will-Alan-Pardew-s-Whoaah-factor-fire-the-Toon-into-Europe-this-season-By-Simon-Bird-article862551.html

 

Some really interesting points there. Surely having pro-zone stats up at the training ground would show that Shola is doing fuck all ? :|

 

Interesting. Guess the displayed ProZone stats do help.

[Guest michaelfoster]

Thats says a lot Fat sam is the worst of our manager in living memory compare only to Sourness. I can't figure out who is the worst it is like choosing to be hit by a train or by the bus both pretty painful.

 

I cant imagine a person with clear mind compare that shithole with Pardew.

 

on win % it goes like this

 

                            win %

 

Keegan (92-97)  54.9

Robson              46.6

Roeder                45.8

Souness              44.8

Pardew                39.2

Dalglish              38.4

Hughton              36.8 *

Gullit                    34.6

Allardyce              33.3

Keegan (2008)    28.5

Kinnear              22.2

 

Hughton's win % including all competitive games in 10/11 season is 59.3%

 

Hughton record in 10/11 Season (all comps)

 

P 19

W 7

D  4

L 8

[Mr Logic]

 

Hughton record in 10/11 Season (all comps)

 

P 19

W 7

D  4

L 9

 

7+4+9=20

[Hanshithispantz]

He doesn't even need to play to win, that's how good he is.

He doesn't even need to play to lose, that's how shit he is.

He doesn't even need to play to draw, that's how mediocre he is.

[Hughesy]

Thats says a lot Fat sam is the worst of our manager in living memory compare only to Sourness. I can't figure out who is the worst it is like choosing to be hit by a train or by the bus both pretty painful.

 

I cant imagine a person with clear mind compare that shithole with Pardew.

 

on win % it goes like this

 

                            win %

 

Keegan (92-97)  54.9

Robson              46.6

Roeder                45.8

Souness              44.8

Pardew                39.2

Dalglish              38.4

Hughton              36.8 *

Gullit                    34.6

Allardyce              33.3

Keegan (2008)    28.5

Kinnear              22.2

 

Hughton's win % including all competitive games in 10/11 season is 59.3%

 

Hughton record in 10/11 Season (all comps)

 

P 19

W 7

D  4

L 8

 

Isn't points per game a far more accurate indicator?  I am never quite sure why people are always using win ratio.

[Benwell Lad]

Thats says a lot Fat sam is the worst of our manager in living memory compare only to Sourness. I can't figure out who is the worst it is like choosing to be hit by a train or by the bus both pretty painful.

 

I cant imagine a person with clear mind compare that shithole with Pardew.

 

on win % it goes like this

 

                            win %

 

Keegan (92-97)  54.9

Robson              46.6

Roeder                45.8

Souness              44.8

Pardew                39.2

Dalglish              38.4

Hughton              36.8 *

Gullit                    34.6

Allardyce              33.3

Keegan (2008)    28.5

Kinnear              22.2

 

Hughton's win % including all competitive games in 10/11 season is 59.3%

 

Hughton record in 10/11 Season (all comps)

 

P 19

W 7

D  4

L 8

 

Isn't points per game a far more accurate indicator?  I am never quite sure why people are always using win ratio.

 

Sky television said everyone has to use that system from now on.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

For those that can't read it would seem, I do not rate Big Sam's time here as better than Pardew or have used their respective times here to rate them as managers. I base my belief or opinion that Big Sam is the better manager on his achievements, his results, his career overall. The fact that he's alwasy been in demand speaks volumes that he is someone who gets reults. And no I wouldn't have him here ahead of Pardew, but then I wouldn't have O'Neill here either and he's a very very good manager.

 

I want a manager here who can get a talented group of players to perform to a high standard footballing wise every week which will enable us to really kick on. Under Pardew I feel this season is a flue and next season we will drop back into mid-table as those around us, mackems etc. improve and those we are displacing like Arsenal, Liverpool etc. get back to business as usual. We need a tactician, someone with the skills to knit these talented players into a footballing side. Something we so very rarely resemble under Pardew despite his bold claims and self promotion as wanting and striving for. Err aye Alan, that's why you play Ryan Taylor ahead of Ben Arfa... for example. That's why we play long ball constantly.

 

Ideally Pardew would develop such skills and get the team playing good football but his career to date and his own philosphies and of course what we keep seeing week in week out would suggest that's just not going to happen. If the club are scouting for upgrades all the time player wise, I do hope we are also looking at upgrades in the dugout too, because if we are to keep progressing we'll need to make such changes.

 

I look at Swansea, and how they play, and wonder how our side with our players would fare playing such football and I cannot help but think we'd give those at the very top a good run for their money. I'd love us to play like them.

[eliassenfredrik]

For those that can't read it would seem, I do not rate Big Sam's time here as better than Pardew or have used their respective times here to rate them as managers. I base my belief or opinion that Big Sam is the better manager on his achievements, his results, his career overall. The fact that he's alwasy been in demand speaks volumes that he is someone who gets reults. And no I wouldn't have him here ahead of Pardew, but then I wouldn't have O'Neill here either and he's a very very good manager.

 

I want a manager here who can get a talented group of players to perform to a high standard footballing wise every week which will enable us to really kick on. Under Pardew I feel this season is a flue and next season we will drop back into mid-table as those around us, mackems etc. improve and those we are displacing like Arsenal, Liverpool etc. get back to business as usual. We need a tactician, someone with the skills to knit these talented players into a footballing side. Something we so very rarely resemble under Pardew despite his bold claims and self promotion as wanting and striving for. Err aye Alan, that's why you play Ryan Taylor ahead of Ben Arfa... for example. That's why we play long ball constantly.

 

Ideally Pardew would develop such skills and get the team playing good football but his career to date and his own philosphies and of course what we keep seeing week in week out would suggest that's just not going to happen. If the club are scouting for upgrades all the time player wise, I do hope we are also looking at upgrades in the dugout too, because if we are to keep progressing we'll need to make such changes.

 

I look at Swansea, and how they play, and wonder how our side with our players would fare playing such football and I cannot help but think we'd give those at the very top a good run for their money. I'd love us to play like them.

 

This will never happen if we keep our current squad, or at least the spine (which is likely should we finish in a Europe spot.) With the quality we have in our current best 11, there's no chance in hell we'll finish mid table. That would suggest teams like Sunderland, Aston Villa and Everton all finishing ahead of us. I realize our squad is a bit thin and vulnerable to injuries, but that can be adjusted come summer time, and I don't think players like Tiote, Colo or Krul will go, as they may look at a club like Liverpool (see Carroll, Enrique) and add two and two together. The only real threat is Man Utd, which is the only club in England I can see them go to, although I don't think it will happen. 

 

I'm not Pardew's biggest fan by no means. I'm furious with the whole Ben Arfa situation, but you can't deny the fact we're 5th with a shot at CL. However I realize we have to adjust our system to take it to the next level, and in that process include flair players and individualists in the team. Pardew refuses to do so, which could come back and haunt us, so I'm on the fence atm.

[Sifu]

He's at the Boro-Mackem game tonight (along with Carver).

[BlueStar]

In the crowd at the Boro-Sunderland game, rocking some hipster glasses

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Pardew watching SmogMack game. Wearing his Trendy Specs...

[Cristov]

god he looks sexy in them specs 

[TheGuv]

Pardew and Carver at the Smogckem game wearing glasses

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Did someone say Pardew is at the Boro-Scum game wearing specs?

[TheGuv]

I'm pretty sure he his

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Did someone say Pardew is at the Boro-Scum game wearing specs?

 

Yeah, he needs to try a better disguise next time.

[Guest BooBoo]

Works for Superman.

[BeloEmre]

 

[madras]

Did someone say Pardew is at the Boro-Scum game wearing specs?

specs is the nickname of one of the clubs receptionists and he's wearing her like a nosebag.

[Sima]

Did someone say Pardew is at the Boro-Scum game wearing specs?

specs is the nickname of one of the clubs receptionists and he's wearing her like a nosebag.

 

[midds]

His wife looks a bit masculine. 

[Magpie]

Love his Austin Powers specs!

[NG32]

For those that can't read it would seem, I do not rate Big Sam's time here as better than Pardew or have used their respective times here to rate them as managers. I base my belief or opinion that Big Sam is the better manager on his achievements, his results, his career overall. The fact that he's alwasy been in demand speaks volumes that he is someone who gets reults. And no I wouldn't have him here ahead of Pardew, but then I wouldn't have O'Neill here either and he's a very very good manager.

 

I want a manager here who can get a talented group of players to perform to a high standard footballing wise every week which will enable us to really kick on. Under Pardew I feel this season is a flue and next season we will drop back into mid-table as those around us, mackems etc. improve and those we are displacing like Arsenal, Liverpool etc. get back to business as usual. We need a tactician, someone with the skills to knit these talented players into a footballing side. Something we so very rarely resemble under Pardew despite his bold claims and self promotion as wanting and striving for. Err aye Alan, that's why you play Ryan Taylor ahead of Ben Arfa... for example. That's why we play long ball constantly.

 

Ideally Pardew would develop such skills and get the team playing good football but his career to date and his own philosphies and of course what we keep seeing week in week out would suggest that's just not going to happen. If the club are scouting for upgrades all the time player wise, I do hope we are also looking at upgrades in the dugout too, because if we are to keep progressing we'll need to make such changes.

 

I look at Swansea, and how they play, and wonder how our side with our players would fare playing such football and I cannot help but think we'd give those at the very top a good run for their money. I'd love us to play like them.

 

And look at swanseas points total compared to ours this season.  So far.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

For those that can't read it would seem, I do not rate Big Sam's time here as better than Pardew or have used their respective times here to rate them as managers. I base my belief or opinion that Big Sam is the better manager on his achievements, his results, his career overall. The fact that he's alwasy been in demand speaks volumes that he is someone who gets reults. And no I wouldn't have him here ahead of Pardew, but then I wouldn't have O'Neill here either and he's a very very good manager.

 

I want a manager here who can get a talented group of players to perform to a high standard footballing wise every week which will enable us to really kick on. Under Pardew I feel this season is a flue and next season we will drop back into mid-table as those around us, mackems etc. improve and those we are displacing like Arsenal, Liverpool etc. get back to business as usual. We need a tactician, someone with the skills to knit these talented players into a footballing side. Something we so very rarely resemble under Pardew despite his bold claims and self promotion as wanting and striving for. Err aye Alan, that's why you play Ryan Taylor ahead of Ben Arfa... for example. That's why we play long ball constantly.

 

Ideally Pardew would develop such skills and get the team playing good football but his career to date and his own philosphies and of course what we keep seeing week in week out would suggest that's just not going to happen. If the club are scouting for upgrades all the time player wise, I do hope we are also looking at upgrades in the dugout too, because if we are to keep progressing we'll need to make such changes.

 

I look at Swansea, and how they play, and wonder how our side with our players would fare playing such football and I cannot help but think we'd give those at the very top a good run for their money. I'd love us to play like them.

 

And look at swanseas points total compared to ours this season.  So far.

 

12 points behind with a championship side, exceptional stuff really. They play some lovely football. I hadn't really taken notice of them and thought the comments from the media about their football being Arsenal or Barca esque was bull shit but they really do play that kind of football having now watched them closely. A joy to watch and testemant to good coaching and philosophy.