Skirge Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Graham Carr to stay at Newcastle despite Joe Kinnear's appointment • Chief scout's decision follows meeting with Mike Ashley • Alan Shearer says he was not consulted on bar name chan Louise Taylor guardian.co.uk, Friday 21 June 2013 10.33 BST Joe Kinnear's arrival at Newcastle had caused Graham Carr to consider his position at the club. Photograph: Matt Roberts / Rex Features/Matt Roberts/Rex Features Graham Carr is set to stay at Newcastle United following a meeting with Mike Ashley, the club's owner. Newcastle's super-scout was widely regarded as de facto director of football before Joe Kinnear's shock appointment to that newly formalised role and had been considering his position on learning he would be answerable to the former Wimbledon manager. Although Carr and Alan Pardew have not always seen eye to eye with Newcastle's manager frustrated by his inability to have the final say on signings, some of which he disagreed with, Carr has made some excellent buys, most notably Hatem Ben Arfa and Yohan Cabaye. Carr's departure would have left Kinnear solely responsible for recruitment but now the pair will work together, with recruiting a striker – possibly Aston Villa's Darren Bent – their top priority. Meanwhile Douglas, the FC Twente defender is reported to be heartbroken by the late collapse of his long mooted move to Newcastle, which was due to be finalised this week but instead ended up being vetoed by Kinnear at the 11th hour. Meanwhile Alan Shearer has rebutted the suggestion from John Irving, Newcastle's financial director that the club had liaised with him over the name change which will see St James' Park's iconic Shearer's bar re-invent itself as a venue called "Nine" when it re-opens next month. "There was no consultation," said Shearer. "I was simply informed by email of the decision to change the name, it was not a question of agreeing or disagreeing. It's their ground and it's up to the owners to do what they want with it. It won't stop me from buying my season ticket and supporting the team." Although it was a coincidence that news of the name change emerged shortly after Shearer criticised Kinnear's appointment, the long planned switch can be seen as a clear reflection of Ashley's lack of affection for the club's former centre forward. Shearer is still adored by Newcastle fans who will regard Irving's comment that the popularity of "Shearer's" bar had "dwindled" as a slight on the one-time England striker. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jun/21/graham-carr-newcastle-joe-kinnear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Carr's departure would have left Kinnear solely responsible for recruitment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I'm sure thers an old song or ditty: " The lunatics have taken over the Asylum". Sums our club up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 @martinlindsay_ Chief scout Graham Carr is to stay at #NUFC after being reassured over his role under new director of football Joe Kinnear, PA report Phew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Good news. As long as Joe's job is limited to say Y/N on transfers rather than directly scouting we'll be relatively okish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Good news. As long as Joe's job is limited to say Y/N on transfers rather than directly scouting we'll be relatively okish And he's not allowed to have one-to-one meetings with players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Good news. As long as Joe's job is limited to say Y/N on transfers rather than directly scouting we'll be relatively okish And he's not allowed to have one-to-one meetings with players. Oh if only he would respect the boundaries set in place, I think we all know as soon as training starts he will be pitch side "running an eye" over things then shouting instructions, then insulting players then threatening to sell such and such, recommending the system the starting 11. We all know its going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Good news. As long as Joe's job is limited to say Y/N on transfers rather than directly scouting we'll be relatively okish And he's not allowed to have one-to-one meetings with players. Oh if only he would respect the boundaries set in place, I think we all know as soon as training starts he will be pitch side "running an eye" over things then shouting instructions, then insulting players then threatening to sell such and such, recommending the system the starting 11. We all know its going to happen. Sadly yes, it does seem likely he'll roam around and start fucking things up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The fact he has an office at the training ground being built scares me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 If it's anything more than a peripheral role then it'll be a disaster imo, he clearly has genuine mental problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Fully expect him to be stood with Pardew on match days tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 He should be no where near the fucking training ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 according to Mark Douglas, Santon was an AP signing. Every day's a school day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I'm sure thers an old song or ditty: " The lunatics have taken over the Asylum". Sums our club up perfectly. Perhaps appropriately enough the verse from Brain Damage The lunatic is in the hall. The lunatics are in my hall. The paper holds their folded faces to the floor And every day the paper boy brings more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I'm not finding this all that reassuring. Certainly better than him leaving. But still leaves me totally meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Why would Carr and Pardew trust/respect/listen to JFK in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I'm not finding this all that reassuring. Certainly better than him leaving. But still leaves me totally meh. Christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I'm the same tbh, I just don't think it matters anymore. Anything Carr does will only be offset by something else and so on so forth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Good news. As long as Joe's job is limited to say Y/N on transfers rather than directly scouting we'll be relatively okish And he's not allowed to have one-to-one meetings with players. Oh if only he would respect the boundaries set in place, I think we all know as soon as training starts he will be pitch side "running an eye" over things then shouting instructions, then insulting players then threatening to sell such and such, recommending the system the starting 11. We all know its going to happen. Yep I see this as inevitable I am afraid. The mad, geratric loon will be offering "advice" to all and sundry. Elsie wont be making the tea right " Stoopid old cannnt, dar bleedin jeeling your havin a bubble". Pardew will have his team selection wrong (well he most probably will anyway) " You aint doin it righhht my china..Get fuckin Sissy wide n Ben Affleck alonside Goofyone stoopid cannnt". Carr will be identifying wrong targets.." not more froggies you stoopid cannnt, we want some blood n funder innit, get my mate Fash in on it my old china" Its all gonna end in tears :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 “Graham is a Geordie boy and he will work with me and the manager. :facepalm: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Well at least Carr is staying, which gives a modicum of hope. I think my tweet to Alan Carr yesterday probably sealed the deal for Wor Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Good news. As long as Joe's job is limited to say Y/N on transfers rather than directly scouting we'll be relatively okish And he's not allowed to have one-to-one meetings with players. And he keels our...soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I'm not finding this all that reassuring. Certainly better than him leaving. But still leaves me totally meh. Christ Yeah, I may have NUFC depression. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Carr's signings for me haven't been no where near as good as people think. We almost got relegated with them last season and the players themselves had a huge proportion of the blame for that. Difficult to judge technical footballers under a manager who operates long ball tactics. If you don't understand the difference just think back to how Keegan transformed the Newcastle team left by Sam Allardyce. The same set of players looked totally different under a manager who played them to their strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 But but i thought he resigned and people witnessed this incident? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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