Foluwashola Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 In terms of flair, agility and technique, Ben Arfa is above any other player I've seen, apart from Maradona and maybe Messi. He's not some talented footballer, he's a genius. Fuck the haters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 72. Paid off. Happy days for him. Was never going to work with a top manager. He did well in certain cases but seems the right time to go. I've defended him loads for his scouting record (and still believe he was hamstrung by Ashley being a cheapskate, i.e. some of his targets we missed out on for the sake of a million or two have gone on to prove themselves massively and triple or quadruple in price while we signed his n-th choice recommendation), but the right time to go was when he dared to suggest his good mate Steve McClaren as our manager. Deserved the boot for that alone, and the idiot who gave him the power to make it happen deserves far worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I thought overall that he did a very good job...as a scout. Where the issues began is when he was asked to become more than a scout. He unearthed some real gems but he needed a stronger football person to report to. If he and Rafa can't work together it's better that he leaves. Unearthed. He signed French international who, shock horror, turned out to be good. The players he unearthed were virtually all utter shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 A lot of his picks were decent tbf. Cabaye, Sissoko, Debuchy, M'biwa, Tiote, HBA, Santon. I know all of them weren't great (M'Biwa, Tiote/Sissoko for large parts) but I think they were decent signings for where we were at that time. That's not to forget the dross we also signed, but I don't think he was completely terrible. I'm glad he's gone though so Rafa is in full control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Basically a kid playing Football Manager probably would have had as much success at suggesting players to sign, from France, to Ashley. Absolute dinosaur, as has been said he was clearly dodgy as well. Good riddance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Bye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Did a canny job Some good signings Some poor signings Majority of them were poorly managed Probably made more money than lost Rafa's here now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 That Independent article by Hardy really hits home how important this could be Mental to think that Carr still had so much power in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 In terms of flair, agility and technique, Ben Arfa is above any other player I've seen, apart from Maradona and maybe Messi. He's not some talented footballer, he's a genius. f*** the haters. Maybe Messi Knew I'd get a reaction Tbh Messi is obviously *better* than Ben Arfa in every single way.. But I stand by the rest of my post. There are hundreds of players more effective than Ben Arfa, probably thousands with better character. But when it comes to ability to do the unexpected, dribbling/kicking technique he can match any player, even the all-time greats IMO. The fact that players like Steve Howey (nevermind Pedro) dwarf his contribution to NUFC is irrelevant to the point I was making. He's an artist, he plays with his heart, on the field he is what fucking football is about (for me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Are you his agent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Interesting: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-united-news-latest-rafael-benitez-won-his-battle-of-power-with-graham-carr-a7803526.html Alan Pardew became peripheral in transfers. In the January transfer window of 2013, five French players arrived at St James’ Park and Pardew didn't even recognise one of them. Pardew man. Still makes me so angry. Clueless dipstick. Considering how much influence Carr had, why didn't he insist on Pardew getting binned sooner as he had no clue about any of the players being provided?! Good riddance to them both. So happy they are now both history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Mental if that half-arsed FA Cup draw away to Birmingham (in which 33-year old Daryl Murphy scored) was the game where the under 25 policy was stuck back on like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Interesting: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-united-news-latest-rafael-benitez-won-his-battle-of-power-with-graham-carr-a7803526.html Alan Pardew became peripheral in transfers. In the January transfer window of 2013, five French players arrived at St James’ Park and Pardew didn't even recognise one of them. Pardew man. Still makes me so angry. Clueless dipstick. Considering how much influence Carr had, why didn't he insist on Pardew getting binned sooner as he had no clue about any of the players being provided?! Good riddance to them both. So happy they are now both history. I'm sure when we signed Riviere, Pards didn't know where to play him in training as he'd never heard of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Rafa man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Interesting: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-united-news-latest-rafael-benitez-won-his-battle-of-power-with-graham-carr-a7803526.html Alan Pardew became peripheral in transfers. In the January transfer window of 2013, five French players arrived at St James’ Park and Pardew didn't even recognise one of them. Pardew man. Still makes me so angry. Clueless dipstick. Considering how much influence Carr had, why didn't he insist on Pardew getting binned sooner as he had no clue about any of the players being provided?! Good riddance to them both. So happy they are now both history. I'm sure when we signed Riviere, Pards didn't know where to play him in training as he'd never heard of him Can't blame him for either, tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Interesting: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-united-news-latest-rafael-benitez-won-his-battle-of-power-with-graham-carr-a7803526.html Alan Pardew became peripheral in transfers. In the January transfer window of 2013, five French players arrived at St James’ Park and Pardew didn't even recognise one of them. Pardew man. Still makes me so angry. Clueless dipstick. Considering how much influence Carr had, why didn't he insist on Pardew getting binned sooner as he had no clue about any of the players being provided?! Good riddance to them both. So happy they are now both history. The manager should always have say on transfers as he is the one who has to coach them into a them. Pardew was an idiot but he was completely stitched up by the transfer strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The strategy he was definitely aware of when he became the manager? Aye, stitched up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The thing is though why couldn't Pardew be in discussion with Carr regarding these players?! He should have at least been shown all the scouting intel on them while Carr was in the process of getting them in, so he was prepared to at least have a clue on how to utilize them. Absolutely ridiculous situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Pardew stitched up, howay man. He rode the wave of the signings that worked out then cried foul about it when things were going south. It was a perfect situation for a charlatan like him. He hasn't got a clue on transfers, look at his record at Palace where he just bought players he'd seen on Match Of The Day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Interesting: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-united-news-latest-rafael-benitez-won-his-battle-of-power-with-graham-carr-a7803526.html Alan Pardew became peripheral in transfers. In the January transfer window of 2013, five French players arrived at St James’ Park and Pardew didn't even recognise one of them. Pardew man. Still makes me so angry. Clueless dipstick. Considering how much influence Carr had, why didn't he insist on Pardew getting binned sooner as he had no clue about any of the players being provided?! Good riddance to them both. So happy they are now both history. The manager should always have say on transfers. Not when he's Alan Pardew they shouldn't, if he had his way he'd have signed the likes of Darren Bent, Steve Sidwell etc etc. Hell one of the worst players we have to this day is an Alan Pardew signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Pardew stitched up, howay man. He rode the wave of the signings that worked out then cried foul about it when things were going south. It was a perfect situation for a charlatan like him. He hasn't got a clue on transfers, look at his record at Palace where he just bought players he'd seen on Match Of The Day. Palace actually signed good players, he just didn't know how to manage them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Pardew definitely wasn't stitched up. He knew the deal and couldn't be arsed to get familiar with the players Carr was going after beforehand. He is a moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Pardew definitely wasn't stitched up. He knew the deal and couldn't be arsed to get familiar with the players Carr was going after beforehand. He is a moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Pardew definitely wasn't stitched up. He knew the deal and couldn't be arsed to get familiar with the players Carr was going after beforehand. He is a moron. He was handed players with good potential and reduced them to complete garbage and lost all the games 0-4. Carr looks worse because of him and knows it, he told me in person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Which players had good potential that he reduced to complete garbage? Pardew's a woeful manager who obviously has a problem getting the best out of his players, but let's not pretend the players who looked garbage under him here weren't just talentless garbage who never should've been signed in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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