Guest bobbyfisher Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 bigi and abeid, should def be retained, both have talent... sure they can be improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 If one or both of those make it here, it'll be a bigger indictment on the Pardew/Carver era than what Ben Arfa, Santon & Mbiwa being sold was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Good athlete, and his ball-control is tighter than Sissoko's. Having said that Sissoko is solid in this department when on international duty. I guess the French national team focuses on ballwork out on the training pitch - surprise, surprise. Of the current batch of midfielders Abeid intrigues me the most, in a good way. Hopefully its McClaren but he could easily have a breakout year, under a manager who doesn't punish him for his instinctive play of releasing the ball forward of the centre circle and supporting the strikers around the box - and he was burned and thrown on the scrapheap by Pardew because of this. If managed correctly Ashley has a tasty incoming transfer fee waiting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Good athlete, and his ball-control is tighter than Sissoko's. Having said that Sissoko is solid in this department when on international duty. I guess the French national team focuses on ballwork out on the training pitch - surprise, surprise. Of the current batch of midfielders Abeid intrigues me the most, in a good way. Hopefully its McClaren but he could easily have a breakout year, under a manager who doesn't punish him for his instinctive play of releasing the ball forward of the centre circle and supporting the strikers around the box - and he was burned and thrown on the scrapheap by Pardew because of this. If managed correctly Ashley has a tasty incoming transfer fee waiting. correct me if i'm wrong but until he came back from greece he was generally considered slow and not up to the pace of the league aye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Good athlete, and his ball-control is tighter than Sissoko's. Having said that Sissoko is solid in this department when on international duty. I guess the French national team focuses on ballwork out on the training pitch - surprise, surprise. Of the current batch of midfielders Abeid intrigues me the most, in a good way. Hopefully its McClaren but he could easily have a breakout year, under a manager who doesn't punish him for his instinctive play of releasing the ball forward of the centre circle and supporting the strikers around the box - and he was burned and thrown on the scrapheap by Pardew because of this. If managed correctly Ashley has a tasty incoming transfer fee waiting. correct me if i'm wrong but until he came back from greece he was generally considered slow and not up to the pace of the league aye? He didn't look slow to me, during his promising spell, certainly not in a Viana way. Adjusting to the end-to-end nature of the league, sure. Match fitness, or a lack of, would play a part in having a rough time intially when being expected to be jump out of the blocks undet Pardew regime. Lack of fitness, not necessarily athleticism, may have been to blame. Was this the view held by Pardoo, that he was too slow prior to his loan stint in Greece? His judgement, when applying to gauging attributes (ie Williamson's aerial power) has as much worth as a bag of dog s*** left out on a vacationing & enemy neigbour's front doorstep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He gets across the pitch easily. We've had a number of players - Cabaye, Colback, Nolan, Butt, Geremi, Guthrie, Anita that have made that look a very difficult task in recent memory. Varying degrees tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Anita is quite a bit more mobile than those you mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Anita covers the ground absolutely fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Maybe it's just hiding with Anita. I've often thought "where is he" when an opposing CM has the ball. He and Colback made N'Zonzi look like prime Patrick Vieira. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 When speaking purely in terms of hide and seek, Colback is far better at it than Anita. Can't find him most of the time, whereas at least Anita tries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Good athlete, and his ball-control is tighter than Sissoko's. Having said that Sissoko is solid in this department when on international duty. I guess the French national team focuses on ballwork out on the training pitch - surprise, surprise. Of the current batch of midfielders Abeid intrigues me the most, in a good way. Hopefully its McClaren but he could easily have a breakout year, under a manager who doesn't punish him for his instinctive play of releasing the ball forward of the centre circle and supporting the strikers around the box - and he was burned and thrown on the scrapheap by Pardew because of this. If managed correctly Ashley has a tasty incoming transfer fee waiting. correct me if i'm wrong but until he came back from greece he was generally considered slow and not up to the pace of the league aye? He didn't look slow to me, during his promising spell, certainly not in a Viana way. Adjusting to the end-to-end nature of the league, sure. Match fitness, or a lack of, would play a part in having a rough time intially when being expected to be jump out of the blocks undet Pardew regime. Lack of fitness, not necessarily athleticism, may have been to blame. Was this the view held by Pardoo, that he was too slow prior to his loan stint in Greece? His judgement, when applying to gauging attributes (ie Williamson's aerial power) has as much worth as a bag of dog s*** left out on a vacationing & enemy neigbour's front doorstep. I meant prior to Greece aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Anita would be more suited to a more advanced role in the team. He isn't a holding midfielder or a midfielder who is going to win you a midfield battle. When he has looked good, it's when he has been pressing forward. Couple of times in his first season with us he was brought on a as a sub and played wide right, he looked great going forward and actually had a canny cross on him. Now I'm not saying play him as a winger, but certainly to get the best out of him he needs to be played further forward as he really doesn't look comfortable sitting deep as he gets bullied and then just ends up hiding for the whole game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Anita covers the ground absolutely fine. Anita is quite quick but because of his smaller stride, he still will find it harder to close down a player than Abeid or Tiote. That said, I still would far rather have him as a defensive midfielder than Colback who is just too slow. Anita is a technically good player as well, quite an intelligent footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Not injured then. Sold? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Were some of them not staying behind to work on fitness because they were on the way back from injury? You can be injured/recovering, but still able to do some training. Just not enough to make a long-haul trip to America to play three friendlies worthwhile (although you could argue that even fully fit this is not worthwhile!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Were some of them not staying behind to work on fitness because they were on the way back from injury? You can be injured/recovering, but still able to do some training. Just not enough to make a long-haul trip to America to play three friendlies worthwhile (although you could argue that even fully fit this is not worthwhile!). No idea. The club said when the squad list was released that Tiote was not going because he was "working on fitness after injury" which has turned out to be BS so.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 True that. Maybe I'm clutching but I hope that it really is the case that Abeid is working his way back to fitness as opposed to being shown the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Might be because he was on International duty although so were others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I know some people will be incredibly sceptical of the source, but La Petite Crêperie (the French owned Crêpe place in Granger Market) tweeted yesterday that Abeid was fully fit and had just been left out. They are usually absolutely bang on in terms of team sheets in advance, bits of gossip on injuries etc. I assume they are friendly with a few players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'd believe them over Ryder etc. al any day of the week. A lot of the French speaking players are regular customers of theirs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I know some people will be incredibly sceptical of the source, but La Petite Crêperie (the French owned Crêpe place in Granger Market) tweeted yesterday that Abeid was fully fit and had just been left out. They are usually absolutely bang on in terms of team sheets in advance, bits of gossip on injuries etc. I assume they are friendly with a few players. He's marra's with some of the French lads aye. Be a shame if he's on his bike given his low wages / decent back up option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I know some people will be incredibly sceptical of the source, but La Petite Crêperie (the French owned Crêpe place in Granger Market) tweeted yesterday that Abeid was fully fit and had just been left out. They are usually absolutely bang on in terms of team sheets in advance, bits of gossip on injuries etc. I assume they are friendly with a few players. He's marra's with some of the French lads aye. Be a shame if he's on his bike given his low wages / decent back up option. He's well ahead of the likes of Colback and Tiote for me. I would have him as competition with Anita for who partners Wijnaldum at CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Is that Olivier Bernard's place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Was Mehdi maybe the late player to training? Man I hate hearing this bc from that form he showed pre injury last season he looked a real potential class player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Joined up with the squad in America along with Satka. Good news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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