leffe186 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Man United, Spurs, Arsenal are all a bunch of complete shysters when it comes to young players, rules and transfers. Agreed, to an extent. I think Arsenal's systematic poaching of young Spanish players is more obviously problematic, yet also more straightforward. I worry about the specific precedent that the Fryers case sets, and the fact that it's just another way to keep the same clubs at the top. That said, if Fergie had either (a) given a realistic valuation of Fryers or (b) given a better contract to Fryers, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Bringing the game into disrepute. Again. Fuck all will be done. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieglory Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I dunno how they have the cheek to complain really, these clubs exploit loopholes to sign players all the time and rip off smaller clubs. We have done ourselves. Seems similar to when we signed Jonas - no technical rules broken, but doesn't leave you with a feeling of having the moral high ground. On the other hand, this time it's happened to Fergie, so fuck him and his wee club in the Pennines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 After everything Fergie has done for Spurs as well. Disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I dunno how they have the cheek to complain really, these clubs exploit loopholes to sign players all the time and rip off smaller clubs. We have done ourselves. Was delighted when Pogba fucked off to Juve, looks a real talent and they can't complain as they took him in a less than respectable manner in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Pogba looked class for Juve so far, no idea why they let him go based on this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Noticed another round of Arry's "trific, trific" crack today. Does any other manager let the media shout names at him in a press conference and answer them in such a way. It's actually a really funny watch. Cringeworthy all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Pogba looked class for Juve so far, no idea why they let him go based on this season Fergie was desperate for him to stay by all accounts, but his agent is Mino Raiola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Pogba looked class for Juve so far, no idea why they let him go based on this season Fergie was desperate for him to stay by all accounts, but his agent is Mino Raiola Ah that explains that then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Pogba looked class for Juve so far, no idea why they let him go based on this season They didn't. He just wanted a lot more money than they were prepared to pay him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 What do Standard get out of this? A small fee? Nothing confirmed at our end, but we presume so. Fergie was apparently asking for 6M from us, to which we politely said no. Or something like that. It looks like Fergie said we did nothing wrong, but it was a blatant manipulation of the rules. Like I said, by the book but not entirely ethical. Unlike his systematic undermining of officials over the years of course - outside the rules and unethical, yet largely unpunished. Sounds like the sort of loophole wor lot would have come up with. Certainly expect them to use it in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Pogba looked class for Juve so far, no idea why they let him go based on this season Fergie was desperate for him to stay by all accounts, but his agent is Mino Raiola Been reading up on this. Now this kid has the potential to be the ultimate mercenary Also interesting to see Le Havre who always seem to be kicked off about other clubs taking their players employ the same tactics themselves the hypocritical wankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Noticed another round of Arry's "trific, trific" crack today. Does any other manager let the media shout names at him in a press conference and answer them in such a way. It's actually a really funny watch. Cringeworthy all the same. Lambert doing his best. 'He's a top, top player. He's not getting a game at Manchester City at the minute. As I've said before, I will sit with the rest of the staff and see what I can do. But I don't think you can ever dismiss it any level whenever you are talking about a top player.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I dunno how they have the cheek to complain really, these clubs exploit loopholes to sign players all the time and rip off smaller clubs. We have done ourselves. Was delighted when Pogba f***ed off to Juve, looks a real talent and they can't complain as they took him in a less than respectable manner in the first place. So true, when my Man-U supporting brother (yeah I know :idiot2: ) complained about Pogba going to Juve I just laughed, a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Pogba looked class for Juve so far, no idea why they let him go based on this season Fergie was desperate for him to stay by all accounts, but his agent is Mino Raiola Been reading up on this. Now this kid has the potential to be the ultimate mercenary Also interesting to see Le Havre who always seem to be kicked off about other clubs taking their players employ the same tactics themselves the hypocritical wankers. That's the thing everyone does it, from top to bottom. I never will understand how people can sit there and complain about a practice when they are doing it anyway. It's wrong and wish it was eradicated in some way but this "Mummy he stole my toy" attitude is pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Don't see what the problem is. Liege get a fee for a player that belongs to them. Ferguson should have lowered his asking price if him and his oracles had seen this coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 We were linked quite a bit with him ages ago weren't we? Meant to be a canny prospect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Don't see what the problem is. Liege get a fee for a player that belongs to them. Ferguson should have lowered his asking price if him and his oracles had seen this coming. I actually agree with Ferguson on this one. Snidey as fuck, but nowt in the rules to stop it unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Good on Spurs, taking advantage of the situation. Tough shit Fergie, should've thought about this when you asked a ridiculous fee for someone you never play and very rarely will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 After everything Fergie has done for Spurs as well. Disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sure Fergie would attempt the same if the situation arose with someone he wanted. It's more clever than sly imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Amazingly enough, I'm also with O-Nut and I also agree with Taggart. Something doesn't smell right about this. Don't Manchester United send their young prospects to Belgium ? If it is Liege, they send them too, I can see Taggart putting a stop on it, though something tells me it is Antwerp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I agree with you Billy that something doesn't sit right with the deal, because it does stink a bit. But I agree with Stu here: Sure Fergie would attempt the same if the situation arose with someone he wanted. I think he'd do anything to get ahead, he's as ruthless as they come. I'm quite sure he's done a number of things in his managerial career which weren't entirely ethical or "right" by general standards but if this is how Spurs get Fryers, then so be it. They've taken advantage of poor rules, can't really blame them for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Amazingly enough, I'm also with O-Nut and I also agree with Taggart. Something doesn't smell right about this. Don't Manchester United send their young prospects to Belgium ? If it is Liege, they send them too, I can see Taggart putting a stop on it, though something tells me it is Antwerp. By the looks of it, Spurs would have had to pay a compensation fee because of his age, but as a foreign club, Liege didn't...all of a sudden Spurs snap him up for next to nowt? Sets a pretty dangerous precedent tbh. Although there's no reason to have sympathy for Man Utd, what's to stop the bigger clubs doing this with clubs who rely on money from their youngsters? They can run their contracts down, f*** off abroad for 6 months for nowt and go to another English club for peanuts. Not good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Fergie's just a bad loser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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