Revolution Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 He definitely looks fatigued to me, I was watching the Man United game yesterday and he was in such good condition compared to what he is now. He was quick across ground, strong, able to turn quickly and change his body shape- just a great physical specimen. He needs a good rest and if he stays, we should get the old Demba back for August!If we had a genuine good winger to come in (it's a shame it looks as though Marveaux won't play this season) I'd consider putting Ben Arfa behind Cisse for the game at Stamford Bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Who the fuck decided to have Ramadan in the Spring as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I'd be interested to see how many miles he covers, how much his levels drop in the second half of games, and how much they've dropped since Feb. Just think it's mainly natural fitness problems, but the new formation is obviously playing a part too. He looked like an absolute superstar as a second striker with Best doing the donkey work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Been turboshite for 10 games now. Proper turboshite. That simply isn't true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Been turboshite for 10 games now. Proper turboshite. That simply isn't true. Nah, it's not. He's been contributing pretty well, he just isn't the same player that p*ssed all over the league from October to January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Not working out on the left when he's called on to defend, as may be expected really. Think Pards needs to learn this in future if keeps trying him there, not against quick sides! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 No chance anyone will pay £7m for him in this form, not a CL club, not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 No chance anyone will pay £7m for him in this form, not a CL club, not a chance. Really? He's not scored in 11 games, but he's already proven he can score lots of goals in this league. I don't buy this logic that players' valuations can fluctuate by about £10m over a third of a season, unless Liverpool are buying of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Exactly, once the dust settles on the season... even now, his goals speak very loudly. Easily worth more than that. Not that I want him to go anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Been turboshite for 10 games now. Proper turboshite. That simply isn't true. Nah, it's not. He's been contributing pretty well, he just isn't the same player that p*ssed all over the league from October to January. He's been putting in good shifts while not scoring, but today was his worst performance of the season for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I'd stick with him and write off today as a poor team performance. He was poor today but despite the lack of goals he has played well recently and been part of a system that won us 6 games in a row. I'd rather stick with that system and show faith in the player than panic and change everything at this stage. Ameobi seems to offer more fresh from the bench and Best hasn't played in ages so I'd rather keep faith in Ba. He needs to do more running both to find space and to chase down defenders than he did today, though. We do need the ability to switch things up otherwise teams will figure out how to stop us, but when you look at our bench and consider we only have 3 games left, I'd prefer to stick with a system that has worked. With Ameobi and Obertan now coming back we at least have height and pace options to bring off the bench even if both are limited players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Been turboshite for 10 games now. Proper turboshite. That simply isn't true. Nah, it's not. He's been contributing pretty well, he just isn't the same player that p*ssed all over the league from October to January. He's been putting in good shifts while not scoring, but today was his worst performance of the season for me. Today and the Bolton game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Poor form, sorry but he's a goalscorer not scoring, three international tournements in a year, Ramadan, insurance issues due to he knee, he's not really the catch he was in the winter window. he looks fuked, playing with no energy for about 6 games now and really he hasn't played loads this season. Not for a club who has euro competition as well. £7m, really doubt anyone will pay it, theyll go nowhere near him till after the oylimpics, and that finishes in august, by then teams not desperate will have made other plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Just needs to score/relax. He's clearly a confidence player, which is undoubtedly a big criticism in itself and imo it's a tad unacceptable that he's managed to get to the stage where even controlling a football is a major struggle, but at the same time let's not write someone off who was clearly a class act only a few months ago. Once he gets a goal and/or some confidence back he could easily be a £20m striker again. Bit like Diego Forlan. Either that or he's basically an Andy Carroll we didn't manage to sell at the right time (during the height of a purple patch). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Poor form, sorry but he's a goalscorer not scoring, three international tournements in a year, Ramadan, insurance issues due to he knee, he's not really the catch he was in the winter window. he looks fuked, playing with no energy for about 6 games now and really he hasn't played loads this season. Not for a club who has euro competition as well. £7m, really doubt anyone will pay it, theyll go nowhere near him till after the oylimpics, and that finishes in august, by then teams not desperate will have made other plans. I'd be very, very surprised if he leaves now, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I can't believe some of the over reaction in this thread. Demba Ba has played well this season and he's one of the main reasons that we are where we are. Things didn't work for him today, the same thing could be said of just about every single player who started for us. He hasn't scored for a while but he's been one of the reasons that we've done well since his return from Africa because he's been asked to play a different roll and apart from not scoring he's carried out that roll well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 We've done well to win 6 on the trot playing the best we have in years when we've been carrying this "turboshit" clogger. Clowns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 We've done well to win 6 on the trot playing the best we have in years when we've been carrying this "turboshit" clogger. Clowns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 One person said he was turboshit btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I'm not bothered that Ba's not scoring. He's been playing in a deeper position anyway, and providing the team is (usually) scoring and winning that's all that counts. What bothers me is that he's looked ordinary at best in that new role. It doesn't seem to suit him. The idea that he just needs to get a goal and then his form will recover seems to me a complete misinterpretation of his current problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Lol wut he played bad today but apart from a 15 minute spell were Cisse could have had a hatrick every one did..... He was the reason come to turn of the year we even had the platform to be in this position.... ok he has'nt scored but how many games did Aguero stop scoring before Tevez come back? how many games is it since RVP has'nt scored from open play? And besides today and Bolton aside he has played well all season long, yes he's low on confidence since missing that pen against scum but more often than that he's played well practically all season whether its out wide or as the central figure. There's much bigger issues to argue about from today's game than Demba freaking Ba ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I can't think of many bigger issues to discuss then Demba Ba's performance in the Demba Ba thread like... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Really think we're overcomplicating this, like. He'll be back to somewhere near his best next season post-Ramadan. We just have to accept that he doesn't have the legs to play this much Premier League football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Agree with Cronky for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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