aussiemag Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 He had a rest, and came back worse. Far too many people incapable of admitting that he's never consistently delivered for us and has been in steady decline since 2008. I agree with this. He was on fire at the start of the relegation season, by the end of it he was useless. He performed "ok" in the championship. First season up he really struggled at the start of the season, he was made to look better by his partnership with Enrique. The past two seasons hes really struggled. The only time his performances have been worthy of a club of our stature were when he played as a deep midfielder on our unbeaten run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I dunno if i've missed something, but what makes people believe that Jonas wouldn't have started if Marv was fit to play against Villa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I dunno if i've missed something, but what makes people believe that Jonas wouldn't have started if Marv was fit to play against Villa? Because Pardew said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I dunno if i've missed something, but what makes people believe that Jonas wouldn't have started if Marv was fit to play against Villa? Assumptions, we all know Marveaux was going to start but we don't know who for tbh. Could have easily been instead of Perch or Gouffran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I dunno if i've missed something, but what makes people believe that Jonas wouldn't have started if Marv was fit to play against Villa? Because Pardew said Didn't he say Marveaux would had started, nothing about who replaced him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I dunno if i've missed something, but what makes people believe that Jonas wouldn't have started if Marv was fit to play against Villa? Because Pardew said Did he? (what i've read is that Marv would have started, that's all) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I thought on the radio it said Jonas finds himself back in the team with Marveaux out . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Im 99% certain that Jonas would have started no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I missed when this fact was established as well, I just accepted it. Like the earth being round etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 It was for Jonas, there was a fair bit pointing towards such (training pictures from earlier in the week where Jonas was on the "B" team, ujpest's original ITK lineup, stuff said on BBC Newcastle's radio coverage, Pardew specifically singling out Jonas post-whistle and then Pardew's later comments). People haven't just plucked it from thin air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 It was Radio Newcastle I heard it too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ok, well im glad to hear Hopefully he wont start Against Chelsea then. Personally i would have played Anita ahead of him against Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ok, well im glad to hear Hopefully he wont start Against Chelsea then. Personally i would have played Anita ahead of him against Villa. Moi aussi. But I guess he did alright in the first half, him and Perch provided the platform for the others to go and play. Maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ok, well im glad to hear Hopefully he wont start Against Chelsea then. Personally i would have played Anita ahead of him against Villa. Moi aussi. But I guess he did alright in the first half, him and Perch provided the platform for the others to go and play. Maybe. I would start Marv every game .. hes a matchwinner, capable of creating that special moment, hes also fantastic at keeping possession and keeping the tempo. So what if he cant tackle. Sissoko and Cabaye can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Great news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ok, well im glad to hear Hopefully he wont start Against Chelsea then. Personally i would have played Anita ahead of him against Villa. Moi aussi. But I guess he did alright in the first half, him and Perch provided the platform for the others to go and play. Maybe. I would start Marv every game .. hes a matchwinner, capable of creating that special moment, hes also fantastic at keeping possession and keeping the tempo. So what if he cant tackle. Sissoko and Cabaye can. I think he could be just as effective wide in Ben Arfa's role, as long as he was given the same license to go hunting for the ball. I know he doesn't share HBA's acceleration, but he's no slug and is quite capable of beating a man or two if necessary. Think this is where we'll tend to see him from here on out too, provided the likes of Cabaye, Sissoko and Tiote stay fit of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ok, well im glad to hear Hopefully he wont start Against Chelsea then. Personally i would have played Anita ahead of him against Villa. Moi aussi. But I guess he did alright in the first half, him and Perch provided the platform for the others to go and play. Maybe. I would start Marv every game .. hes a matchwinner, capable of creating that special moment, hes also fantastic at keeping possession and keeping the tempo. So what if he cant tackle. Sissoko and Cabaye can. I think he could be just as effective wide in Ben Arfa's role, as long as he was given the same license to go hunting for the ball. I know he doesn't share HBA's acceleration, but he's no slug and is quite capable of beating a man or two if necessary. Think this is where we'll tend to see him from here on out too, provided the likes of Cabaye, Sissoko and Tiote stay fit of course. was known as a wide player in france. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Probably wont start against Chelsea, don't want to risk him with his injury record. May come on as a sub though, hopefully for Jonas with a good 30mins to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ok, well im glad to hear Hopefully he wont start Against Chelsea then. Personally i would have played Anita ahead of him against Villa. Moi aussi. But I guess he did alright in the first half, him and Perch provided the platform for the others to go and play. Maybe. I would start Marv every game .. hes a matchwinner, capable of creating that special moment, hes also fantastic at keeping possession and keeping the tempo. So what if he cant tackle. Sissoko and Cabaye can. I think he could be just as effective wide in Ben Arfa's role, as long as he was given the same license to go hunting for the ball. I know he doesn't share HBA's acceleration, but he's no slug and is quite capable of beating a man or two if necessary. Think this is where we'll tend to see him from here on out too, provided the likes of Cabaye, Sissoko and Tiote stay fit of course. was known as a wide player in france. Such a fucking troll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 It's not a muscle related injury as far as i know. Must start against Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ok, well im glad to hear Hopefully he wont start Against Chelsea then. Personally i would have played Anita ahead of him against Villa. Moi aussi. But I guess he did alright in the first half, him and Perch provided the platform for the others to go and play. Maybe. I would start Marv every game .. hes a matchwinner, capable of creating that special moment, hes also fantastic at keeping possession and keeping the tempo. So what if he cant tackle. Sissoko and Cabaye can. I think he could be just as effective wide in Ben Arfa's role, as long as he was given the same license to go hunting for the ball. I know he doesn't share HBA's acceleration, but he's no slug and is quite capable of beating a man or two if necessary. Think this is where we'll tend to see him from here on out too, provided the likes of Cabaye, Sissoko and Tiote stay fit of course. was known as a wide player in france. Such a f***ing troll. just seems like there's many who think playing him wide would be playing him out of position, when the opposite is true, he's never really played in his most comfortable position since he came. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 He's said himself that he considers the "number 10" position his favourite, but I agree that it's madness that some are claiming he "can't play wide" or "shouldn't be played wide" after he's spent a career there. There was a time where I'm sure people were saying the same about Ben Arfa and the right-hand side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I think Pardew see's Marveaux as an alternative to Cabaye and/or Ben Arfa and i think its highly unlikely you will see all 3 in the team at the same time consistently. I do think its possible if he's fit he could play against Chelsea though, as mentioned Gouffran seems to have very high work rate so that could replace a bit with Pardew thinks what Jonas offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I think Pardew see's Marveaux as an alternative to Cabaye and/or Ben Arfa and i think its highly unlikely you will see all 3 in the team at the same time consistently. I do think its possible if he's fit he could play against Chelsea though, as mentioned Gouffran seems to have very high work rate so that could replace a bit with Pardew thinks what Jonas offers. I'd be delighted to see him and Gouffran either side of Cisse and with free-reign to swap sides like Gouffran and Jonas were doing on Tuesday. Gouffran was involved in the early build-up to both of our goals thanks to this approach - first from the right, then from the left. I'd be surprised to see it, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Same i still expect Jonas and Gouffran but i wouldn't totally rule it out because of what Gouffran offers on the defensive side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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