mrmojorisin75 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I don't want to bash TCD, because I think people go in on the brother too hard on here, but his comments today have confused me greatly. Come on TCD man, step your game up bro. He exists just to create counter positions to every opinion and then spend his time defending it, its fucking pointless. This is a case in point; we say that increased possession and a better passing game might help relieve the defence. What's to disagree with, why would you? He can't have that though so Martinez is wheeled out of nowhere as if it means anything to Steve McLarens NUFC and we're told in no uncertain terms that organisation is the key, not possession, possession shouldn't be the ultimate aim, because he said so, and no one said it was anyway. Fuck that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 can't be that erudite if he dropped out of college Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 can't be that erudite if he dropped out of college Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 can't be that erudite if he dropped out of college Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 For me he's still our best CB (given Mbemba is unproven in the Premier League) and it was only his heart and desire I was questioning over last year. Yeah he makes some mental decisions sometimes, but he has certainly shown himself to have the quality in the past. Knowing Ashley this extension maybe even lowered his wage. Hope him and Mbemba can form a solid partnership. Certainly prefer him as first choice to Willo or Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Agree with others, until Mbemba proves himself then Coloccini is by far and away our best centre half, which tells its own story these days. I'd have kept him at the club anyway. More disappointing is that it clearly signals we're not buying anyone else. This is basically what I've been saying as well, it's not that I particularly think he's fantastic or I want to keep him, but until we buy someone better then I'd rather he was still here. I've no doubt he'll still do well next season, although we really should have been looking to replace him rather than extending his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I don't think my opinion is any different to anyone else's with half a brain. Aye mate, you're the only one with more than half a brain, McClaren and everyone else is clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizzletooth Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Maybe his poor form over the last 12-18 months is also somewhat down to having had his fill of the anti football approach of Pardew and Carver. Perhaps with a new competent coaching setup, a commitment to playing football on the ground and a young hungry CB beside him we could see a rejuvenated Colo who can get back to at least something like his best? Here's hoping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Couldnt care less what he was going to do but at least this would keep Williamson away from the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Think everyone knew we weren't going to sign 2 centre backs. It takes us 12-18 months minimum to sign one. This is the next best thing even if he's haggard and a bit shit now. Hopefully we can send Williamson to the glue factory now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Possession isn't going to make a teams defensive organisation or individuals any better. Our 2 biggest defeats last year. Was it Leicester & Soton? Wasn't the result of incessant pressure. Just woeful, woeful, defending from the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Maybe his poor form over the last 12-18 months is also somewhat down to having had his fill of the anti football approach of Pardew and Carver. Perhaps with a new competent coaching setup, a commitment to playing football on the ground and a young hungry CB beside him we could see a rejuvenated Colo who can get back to at least something like his best? Here's hoping. Been crap for 2 and a half years at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I don't think my opinion is any different to anyone else's with half a brain. Aye mate, you're the only one with more than half a brain, McClaren and everyone else is clueless. Well, I stand by my opinion. It's based on 3 years of poor performances. I hope I'm wrong. I'm not, but we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 What are the chances that we missed out on a few targets and this is a sign of desperation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I don't think my opinion is any different to anyone else's with half a brain. Aye mate, you're the only one with more than half a brain, McClaren and everyone else is clueless. Well, I stand by my opinion. It's based on 3 years of poor performances. I hope I'm wrong. I'm not, but we'll see. "I hope I'm wrong. I'm not" Classic Ron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I don't think my opinion is any different to anyone else's with half a brain. Aye mate, you're the only one with more than half a brain, McClaren and everyone else is clueless. Well, I stand by my opinion. It's based on 3 years of poor performances. I hope I'm wrong. I'm not, but we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Maybe his poor form over the last 12-18 months is also somewhat down to having had his fill of the anti football approach of Pardew and Carver. Perhaps with a new competent coaching setup, a commitment to playing football on the ground and a young hungry CB beside him we could see a rejuvenated Colo who can get back to at least something like his best? Here's hoping. Been crap for 2 and a half years at least. He's had the odd bad game where he's got done badly, but no he hasn't been crap in general. This type of hyperbole doesn't serve anyone. What we really need is a big stopper who can play alongside your Colo, Mbebmba or Mbiwa when he was here. The only one we have got who comes close to that description is Williamson who actually is crap, yet you were defending him just this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Oh dear, losing any hope of another CB incoming now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 If he really wants to stay then we should have done this in addition to signing another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 With Mbemba, Colo, Lascelles, Dummett, and Taylor all available; I don't think we actually need another CB unless we're buying one with serious quality. The depth is there. Can't see us spending 10m+ on another defender, so this is not at all unexpected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Depth of shit.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Depth of shit.. Relative to what past versions of NUFC and other mid-lower table premier league teams have had to work with in defense, I would be content with a starting pair of Colo-Mbemba or Dummett-Mbemba backed up by Taylor with occasional appearances from Lascelles. Content is about as good as it gets with this team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Colo's decline hasn't been physical IMO, his mental state was shot and then the team declined and he started trying to do everyone else's job for them. Granted he has been crap recently, but I don't think it's impossible for him to make a bit of a comeback in the short term. Agree. I don't mind this too much. Colo's shortcomings now are more or less the same as always, he lacks pace and he's erratic in the air. He's a class defender though and with Mbemba next to him he might get back to something like his best. As fans we want the team to progress quickly, but you can't change everything at once, Colo staying as part of the first team isn't a major problem. That said, I'd rather he wasn't captain, but McClaren has been making noises about 11 captains, hopefully the news lads will listen to him and the likes of Krul, Anita, Tiote etc will follow suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 All i know is Mbemba better be as much of a physical beast that he's claimed to be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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