Ronaldo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Don't agree and never will. Woodgate played behind a much better midfield at NUFC. He was very good but not as good as Colo was from 2010-2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I wouldn't be confident putting one ahead of the other at their peaks for us, mind. I do remember Woodgate looking utterly sublime at times, though, which I can't remember Colo looking quite as. Not sure that means he was a worse CB, though. Probably equally as effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Woodgate was better tbh Totally agree Woodgate was better but it would have made a great partnership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Moncur was better than both. Classy defender who scored three goals in a cup final to lift silver as captain. Captain of national team too. No contest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Woodgate was better tbh Totally agree Woodgate was better but it would have made a great partnership Woodgate over a shorter period of time was the best I've seen. We just didn't see enough of him in our colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Moncur was better than both. Classy defender who scored three goals in a cup final to lift silver as captain. Captain of national team too. No contest. The national team was Scotland though ;P I was too young to remember him. But we've had some good defenders in the past if you go way back like Frank Brennan and even further to Billy McCracken and Colin Veitch, I think the FA had to change the offside rule because of those two, lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Happy Birthday to my favourite centre half, Love, Ronaldo xxx He's still the best CB I've seen in our colours. Just a shame he's deteriorated so much. Albert was better by a mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Happy Birthday to my favourite centre half, Love, Ronaldo xxx He's still the best CB I've seen in our colours. Just a shame he's deteriorated so much. Albert was better by a mile. I love Albert but as a defender that statement is way off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Judgment's tainted by how poor Colo's been in the last 2.5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Albert was good, composed but not the best defender, for me Woodgate was immense, he would just come out of nowhere and make a perfectly timed clean tackle when you thought there was going be a goal, just a shame it was so short lived, he could have been one of the best centre halfs ever had he not had so many injury problems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Injury issues were only part of the problem. He couldn't have cared less about his career. For all people slag off John Terry, he took his weaknesses and worked so hard on his game that they no longer really mattered. Woodgate on the other hand just (usually) turned up on time, did the bare minimum he was contracted for and spent the rest of his life acting like a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Injury issues were only part of the problem. He couldn't have cared less about his career. For all people slag off John Terry, he took his weaknesses and worked so hard on his game that they no longer really mattered. Woodgate on the other hand just (usually) turned up on time, did the bare minimum he was contracted for and spent the rest of his life acting like a c***. Harsh but fair. Woody had way more natural talent than both Rio and Terry, yet played a fraction of the games those two did for the country. Injuries and a lack of application were the reasons why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Depends on how you define talent. I'd say intelligence is the most important talent a defender can have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Depends on how you define "best" - straightforward ability or also overall contribution to the club? In terms of pure ability, Gazza is the top NUFC player I've seen, but if you asked me for the greatest player I've seen play for NUFC, I'd say Beardsley (ability + contribution). The same goes for Woodgate v Colo in terms of top NUFC centre-backs I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well, I think Colo at his 2011 best eclipses Woodgate at his best in 2003. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well, I think Colo at his 2011 best eclipses Woodgate at his best in 2003. About the same. Colo definitely is more of a threat from set pieces but I can remember umpteen times when Woodgate was just an absolute collosus. That good that Madrid swooped straight in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well, I think Colo at his 2011 best eclipses Woodgate at his best in 2003. About the same. Colo definitely is more of a threat from set pieces but I can remember umpteen times when Woodgate was just an absolute collosus. That good that Madrid swooped straight in for him. This is where we'll disagree. Has Colo ever scored directly from a set piece? Woodgate not much of a threat either, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well, I think Colo at his 2011 best eclipses Woodgate at his best in 2003. About the same. Colo definitely is more of a threat from set pieces but I can remember umpteen times when Woodgate was just an absolute collosus. That good that Madrid swooped straight in for him. This is where we'll disagree. Has Colo ever scored directly from a set piece? Woodgate not much of a threat either, mind. Im sure a remember a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 What our back 5 needs is Given 2002, Beye 2008, Enrique 2011, Coloccini 2011 & Woodgate 2003. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Bernard 2003. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Bernard 2003. Absolutely loved Olivier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 What our back 5 needs is Given 2002, Beye 2008, Enrique 2011, Coloccini 2011 & Woodgate 2003. Yeah agree with that. Enrique over OB every time for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I think Bernard was better over a longer period of time but Enrique in the first season back was a beast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I think Bernard was better over a longer period of time but Enrique in the first season back was a beast. I've always felt Enrique was better over a longer period due to his consistency. Bernard was outstanding that one season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Injury issues were only part of the problem. He couldn't have cared less about his career. For all people slag off John Terry, he took his weaknesses and worked so hard on his game that they no longer really mattered. Woodgate on the other hand just (usually) turned up on time, did the bare minimum he was contracted for and spent the rest of his life acting like a cunt. Still doesn't mean he wasn't great when he was on the pitch though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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