Interpolic Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Our disciplinary record is fucking shocking mind, and has been for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He was decent yesterday, so was Tiote. It was weird. Not really, Colo can have outstanding matches where he looks boss, but then there will be games where he struggles against the pace and power strikers. Unfortunately that's the case with the rest of our cb's as well. We needed to buy a big hard cb in the John Terry mode. Tiote always looks rusty after a long lay off and generally starts to look much better after a few games to get up to speed. Or we were just up against the shittest group of players in the league. Wasn't he MoM against Man U? Aye Colo can still look really good in certain games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Our disciplinary record is fucking shocking mind, and has been for a long time. Over two and a quarter hours played with ten men, ten games into the season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He was decent yesterday, so was Tiote. It was weird. Wasn't so hard with conference standard players in front of them tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Does our manager have the balls to buy a new partner for Mbemba in January? Colo needs to be on the bench and slowly zoned out of the club. There's always a warm seat for him in San Lorenzo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Does our manager have the balls to buy a new partner for Mbemba in January? Colo needs to be on the bench and slowly zoned out of the club. There's always a warm seat for him in San Lorenzo. Well, I'd rather he benched Coloccini for Dummett for starters. Big managers have no problems putting out the best teams. Starting Colo is currently counter-productive in most league games, and a chance should be given to someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Does our manager have the balls to buy a new partner for Mbemba in January? Colo needs to be on the bench and slowly zoned out of the club. There's always a warm seat for him in San Lorenzo. Well, I'd rather he benched Coloccini for Dummett for starters. Big managers have no problems putting out the best teams. Starting Colo is currently counter-productive in most league games, and a chance should be given to someone else. I don't really think that will make that much difference, he's probably going to have the same problems that Coloccini has against the bigger and more powerful forwards. Might be worth giving it a go though just to put that one to bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I think Colo's headstrong running about and lack of discipline are more of a problem than him lacking physicality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Just saw the penalty for the first time. Don't think it was a penalty but him falling after Fletcher made it look bad IMO as well as Fletcher's theatrics. Never a red card though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It was a blatant pen, he shoved someone off the ball in the box when said player was running onto a ball he was capable of getting a foot/toe to. It was never a sending off, but it was a pen. Colo is an idiot and should never play for us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 That's how I see it (except for last half sentence) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The penalty was never a penalty and if the laws of the game says it is then the game will stop every couple of minutes and we'll never finish a game with 22 players on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It was a blatant pen, he shoved someone off the ball in the box when said player was running onto a ball he was capable of getting a foot/toe to. It was never a sending off, but it was a pen. Colo is an idiot and should never play for us again. No he didn't. It was shoulder to shoulder and Fletcher dived like he'd been shot up the arse with a nuclear bazooka. Elliott got their in any case so their was no goalscoring opportunity to warrant a red card either. Colocinni is accused of being as weak as piss on a regular basis on here so Fletcher must weaker than piss the way he went flying. Was never a penalty in a millions years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The penalty was never a penalty and if the laws of the game says it is then the game will stop every couple of minutes and we'll never finish a game with 22 players on the pitch. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It wasn't a blatant penalty, unnecessarily forceful, but I've seen plenty not given. Stupid all the same. The red card was a joke, if there is any doubt he should stay on. I'd be interested to know the referee take on it, if he says it was a push then fair enough, if he says it was obstruction as Colo wasn't in control of the ball then he needs to look at Cattermole's defending 30 seconds earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Grabbing someone trying to get past you in the box and stopping them dead in their tracks is just as questionable and NOTHING was given (Catts on Gini) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Shoulder-to-shoulder is a legal physical challenge when challenging for the ball. But it's not license to charge someone over when chasing down a ball. IMO they were not close enough to play for the ball, and it looked like Colo knew he was being beaten for pace so he resorted to the foul. Stupid play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It was a stupid decision by an experienced defender who should know better. You plain and simple don't risk a shoulder barge in a situation like that. Will be interesting to see how we fare without him but I'm guessing Lascelles will take his place which is not encouraging to say the least. Who's vice captain by the way? Janmaat? Maybe we might actually see some leadership on the pitch for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 the funny thing was he was about to challenge a big lad like fletcher on the run, the ideal thing would have been from him to physically ease him out of the situation and/or put him off enough with his presence so fuck up fletchers chance had he tried that and fletcher scored everyone would have crucified him for being weak and physically not up to the league fletcher went down very easily for a player his size, is kind of what i'm trying to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm hoping Dummett comes in and plays so well that he can't be dropped, Coco is finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm hoping Dummett comes in and plays so well that he can't be dropped, Coco is finished. Handed the captaincy and a new contact, get the idea out of your head, he starts when he's fit. McClaren won't be that brave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 the funny thing was he was about to challenge a big lad like fletcher on the run, the ideal thing would have been from him to physically ease him out of the situation and/or put him off enough with his presence so f*** up fletchers chance had he tried that and fletcher scored everyone would have crucified him for being weak and physically not up to the league fletcher went down very easily for a player his size, is kind of what i'm trying to say Looking at both their trajectories, Fletcher moves towards Coloccini and not after the ball. His momentum when he crashes into Colo helps him fly off and pretend to be pushed. There was clearly no arm or leg sticking out to impede Fletcher's movement. Non-incident. End of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If I remember correctly Smalling did an identical challenge in the euro qualifiers a few weeks ago. The other player actually flew a lot further. No foul, the ref told the player to get up and the commentators praised Smalling. Also thinking back I`m sure Willo did the arm across the neck move last season and a penalty was given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The point is that he gave the ref a decision to make, whether it was a pen or not is debatable but it was stupid from an experienced defender. Never a red card but again it has split opinion All Collocini's fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The point is that he gave the ref a decision to make, whether it was a pen or not is debatable but it was stupid from an experienced defender. Never a red card but again it has split opinion All Collocini's fault. Every single 50-50 where two opposing players meet at some point will give the ref a decision to make! That decision is foul or no foul, believe it or not. If he had just left him and Elliot hadn't got there in time, we would be sitting here saying how stupid he was for not making an attempt. With all of Coloccini's faults and serious degradation in ability, this was a very simple decision for the ref to call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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