Kanj Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Would love Barkley here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Howay man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I hope he means Sir Charles if only to replace Ando. "That shot was turrible." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Everton would want a outrageous fee so no thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Everton would want a outrageous fee so no thanks He only has 12 month left on his contract like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Howay man So if he leaves Everton, which looks a strong possibility, you think he will go upwards? I think he may be limited in options in terms of a 'bigger' club. Not saying we are , just asking the question Don't see why we couldn't be an option though, apart from the possible ridiculous fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Yes. He'll have suitors above Everton, and us. It's why he's not signed a new deal in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Barkley will end up on a top 4 bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Said before but some will massively disappointed based on these expectations. Rafa is fantastic but in the short term we are still a recently promoted club who have massively dropped in stock due to poor decision making at the top. Shouldn't really lose sight of that, expecting more signings which are not that established but will probably help us improve nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I think we may well be pleasantly surprised by a few of who we attract. And I can't agree on any of the top 4 or even 6 looking at Barkley. Outside the top 6, if I was a Stoke, Southampton, West Brom supporter (sides that may be considered to be more established in the PL than us) I would be concerned at our promotion. A defective NUFC was attractive to Benitez. A functioning NUFC with Rafa in charge and given funds must be bloody worrying to some chairmen and managers of the teams we will be competing with next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 You don't think any of the top 5 or 6 have been targeting Barkley? Why do you think he's having this standoff over his contract with Everton? So he can secure a not so lucrative move to Southampton or Newcastle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Personally no I can't see it being a shoe in and I am also not suggesting he is destined for us at all. But players of his ilk, at top 7 sides who are out of favour , for whatever reason and aren't necessarily going to be courted by bigger sides are possible. As for barkely Koeman doesn't rate him that's pretty evident. Spurs don't need him, Liverpool is a no go, Chelsea certainly don't need him. I guess you may be right if Man U are the touters but other than becoming a bench warmer at City I think he will be limited. for England it would probably be good for him to move abroad (as with a lot of our playesr, btu of course that isn't happening..other than China) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I think we may well be pleasantly surprised by a few of who we attract. And I can't agree on any of the top 4 or even 6 looking at Barkley. Outside the top 6, if I was a Stoke, Southampton, West Brom supporter (sides that may be considered to be more established in the PL than us) I would be concerned at our promotion. A defective NUFC was attractive to Benitez. A functioning NUFC with Rafa in charge and given funds must be bloody worrying to some chairmen and managers of the teams we will be competing with next season. I personally think you are overestimating the impact Rafa will have in the short term tbh, at least compared to overriding the toxic nature which most will see the club as due to Ashley. Next summer assuming we actually improve how we imagine will be the time we can expect more "flashy" signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 How is he out of favour? He's started 34 league games out of 36 this season. Koeman is fed up with him because he's not signed a contract with 1 year left, not because he doesn't rate him. He's not signed a new deal because he's clearly had bigger, wealthier clubs in his/his agent's ear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Fair points Mole. I'm feeling positive about NUFC for the first time in ages though Undoubtedly NASA will announce the impending comet/asteroid soon enough and barring Bruce Willis and an unlikely mission involving Steve Buscemi everything will start falling on it's arse sooner rather than later. Okay Ponsaelius I bow to your knowledge on this one. Everton fans I have spoke to certainly gave me the impression that he is not fancied by Koeman, rather than it being about his lack of committing to the club. Time will tell re his next move. Be daft to go and bench warm imo but I guess 120 thousand a week at a bigger side etc speaks loud and clear to many, if it comes to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'm pretty certain we'll not be disappointed like. I doubt we'd have much interest in Barkley anyway, but I think we can be pretty confident in bringing in 5-6 really strong players and probably a decent raid on Spain. We've bought players like Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Debuchy, Ba, Cisse & Sissoko (went for £30m) despite being managed by arseholes. And even though they never turned out too well players like Thauvin, Cabella, Yanga-Mbiwa, Anita & De Jong were all pretty exciting. I don't think players really care about Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Fair points Mole. I'm feeling positive about NUFC for the first time in ages though Undoubtedly NASA will announce the impending comet/asteroid soon enough and barring Bruce Willis and an unlikely mission involving Steve Buscemi everything will start falling on it's arse sooner rather than later. Don't get me wrong I am too First season in ages I'm really looking forward to it, I just think we should be a bit cautious at the same time. I'm expecting some great signings, I just don't think they'll be massively eye catching ones just yet. Because I'd argue Clark, Gayle etc weren't massively eye catching tbh. Maybe that's a good thing though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 An upgrade, irrespective of if they are 'names' or not, at LB, CH, CM and striker would see me ecstatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Unless Ashley interferes I'm pretty sure we will see improvements across the spine of the team at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Said before but some will massively disappointed based on these expectations. Rafa is fantastic but in the short term we are still a recently promoted club who have massively dropped in stock due to poor decision making at the top. Shouldn't really lose sight of that, expecting more signings which are not that established but will probably help us improve nonetheless. I disagree. Newcastle is a big draw for players and managers, that's one of the reasons Rafa is here in the first place. If anything, I think too many underestimate how attractive this club is, especially with a world class manager in charge which would hint at some sort of ambition. I don't think we'll have much trouble attracting players unless we are competing with CL clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Slightly left field - Javier Mascherano [also Bruno Soriano, Inigo Martinez and Jose Gaya] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Anyone we fucking want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Us, the fans are also a big draw for players. Granted, the money/Champions League football are the biggest swaying factors but players will have taken note of the scenes throughout this season and especially on the last day, even though we were in the Championship. When our ground is full and rocking it's one of the best, if not the best in the country and that matters to players - they want to play in stadiums like ours. Add the Rafa factor to that and I think we're a lot more attractive to potential signings than some of you lot think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Fernando Llorente seems like a Rafa player to me. 13 goals this season in a rubbish Swansea team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Is Conte not an admirer of Llorente? Markovic from Hull...is his loan now up? Not sure if they are looking to loan out again but he seems canny when on it. Bit inconsistent maybe but talented. Undoubtedly value in some loans that rafa can take advantage of I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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