AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Getting Shepherd back would at least end the "We might do a Portsmouth/Leeds" jokes Aye, we might actually do it so it would no longer be funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Getting Shepherd back would at least end the "We might do a Portsmouth/Leeds" jokes Aye, we might actually do it so it would no longer be funny. We also might not get dicked off our local rivals twice a season and consistently promote failure as the best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Getting Shepherd back would at least end the "We might do a Portsmouth/Leeds" jokes Aye, we might actually do it so it would no longer be funny. We also might not get dicked off our local rivals twice as season and consistently promote failure as the best option. True. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Neither are the answer but if I had to choose it really doesn't take much thinking about. However the way we were going under Fred we wouldn't exist in our current form IMHO. I also think he'd do a better job second time round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Neither are the answer but if I had to choose it really doesn't take much thinking about. However the way we were going under Fred we wouldn't exist in our current form IMHO. I also think he'd do a better job second time round. You might be right there. Put slightly more money behind our scouting. Still the issue of operating at a loss and how he would finance that of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Neither are the answer but if I had to choose it really doesn't take much thinking about. However the way we were going under Fred we wouldn't exist in our current form IMHO. I also think he'd do a better job second time round. You might be right there. Put slightly more money behind our scouting. Still the issue of operating at a loss and how he would finance that of course. He'd bring in a better manager, he was always reactionary though,bobby lost order, bring in tough guy souness, souness fell out with everyone, bring in nice guy Glenn. Glenn was behind the times, bring in fat Sam with his pro zone and DVD analyst. Right now, IMO, he'd try and bring back Keegan, for better or worse. One thing is for damn sure though, Pardew wouldn't get another minute at this club. That's would be a good enough start, taking responsible action for the clubs finance is something he'd have to take seriously. If we hoyed £50m on top of whatever we've already got from Cabaye plus a new manager the club can get excited about then we start next season looking to do what Everton are currently doing. That £50m would be worth taking out against the club, but he just wouldn't stop or manage it properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I remember hearing about Shepherd getting in Dumas' face in his office and telling him he wasn't getting another penny out of the club. Wonder how many of the current lot he'd be saying that to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Shephard tried to make Newcastle United a success. He was shit at it but he tried. Which is a million times better than what Ashley is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I remember hearing about Shepherd getting in Dumas' face in his office and telling him he wasn't getting another penny out of the club. Wonder how many of the current lot he'd be saying that to. Never heard this fair play to him. Knowing our lot theyd be forming a que as well. Pardew heading it dick in one hand manager of the year award in his other hand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I think there's few better ways of putting my hatred of what Ashley and his cronies have done to this fine club than me pining for the possible return of fucking Shepherd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Shephard tried to make Newcastle United a success. He was shit at it but he tried. Which is a million times better than what Ashley is doing. It nearly worked to be fair, it just wasn't sustainable if it didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Shephard tried to make Newcastle United a success. He was s*** at it but he tried. Which is a million times better than what Ashley is doing. It nearly worked to be fair, it just wasn't sustainable if it didn't. he was too trigger happy and involved to make it sustainable. Even the good times. He always thought he knew best but at the same time, really cared what the fans thought. Hence all the 'big name' signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 We've definitely gone from one extreme to the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I never felt empty during the Shepherd era. Afflicted and pissed off, yes, but never empty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Fat Fred any day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 For one thing if Shepherd took over the club again - he'd be able to revel in a debt-free club that our Board peddles about, but would be able to get some decent financing (like every other club does, as long as you get good loans and not over-levered you are fine) and we'd be accountable, relevant, and Shep would be in the press reminding people how big of a club we are, can be and will be. I believe he'd be FAR BETTER then he was last time and infinitely better than Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 For one thing if Shepherd took over the club again - he'd be able to revel in a debt-free club that our Board peddles about, but would be able to get some decent financing (like every other club does, as long as you get good loans and not over-levered you are fine) and we'd be accountable, relevant, and Shep would be in the press reminding people how big of a club we are, can be and will be. I believe he'd be FAR BETTER then he was last time and infinitely better than Ashley. We aren't debt free. We owe mike 120 million? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 For one thing if Shepherd took over the club again - he'd be able to revel in a debt-free club that our Board peddles about, but would be able to get some decent financing (like every other club does, as long as you get good loans and not over-levered you are fine) and we'd be accountable, relevant, and Shep would be in the press reminding people how big of a club we are, can be and will be. I believe he'd be FAR BETTER then he was last time and infinitely better than Ashley. We aren't debt free. We owe mike 120 million? I know that man, fairly obvious our "asking price" is full-on purchase of club and "debt" to Mike Ashley. The "debt" to Mike should be equity, by the way. But thats for another conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 For one thing if Shepherd took over the club again - he'd be able to revel in a debt-free club that our Board peddles about, but would be able to get some decent financing (like every other club does, as long as you get good loans and not over-levered you are fine) and we'd be accountable, relevant, and Shep would be in the press reminding people how big of a club we are, can be and will be. I believe he'd be FAR BETTER then he was last time and infinitely better than Ashley. We aren't debt free. We owe mike 120 million? I know that man, fairly obvious our "asking price" is full-on purchase of club and "debt" to Mike Ashley. The "debt" to Mike should be equity, by the way. But thats for another conversation. Its just too bad no one is willing to purchase the club at the price fat mike wants. Judging from the Annual report the debt will remain so fat mike can continue to use us a an advertising vehicle free of charge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Fred would raise 5m a season in sponsorhip money, in place of all of the SD signage. Then pay himself 5m a season in wages and dividends. Neither for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Nah, he wouldn't. If he ever had another go and it was after Mike Ashley, he'd do everything opposite - the prospect of being the "Geordie Hero" would actually play in our club's favor, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Has Shepherd actually been linked to buying the club btw? Does he have the money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Fred would raise 5m a season in sponsorhip money, in place of all of the SD signage. Then pay himself 5m a season in wages and dividends. Neither for me. I'd rather have the stadium covered in adverts for local businesses for free than Sports Direct for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Freddie Shepherd thought he was some kind of gangster, man. He may have been a supporter of the club but he was an utter idiot. He took millions for himself and made terrible decisions at pretty much every turn. He's never ever had the intellect to run a football club and he sure as hell hasn't gained that in his time away. Saying he'd be better than Ashley is like saying being kicked in the balls is better than kicking yourself in the balls. You end up with sore bollocks either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoven11 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Has Shepherd actually been linked to buying the club btw? Few years ago, when we were in Championship I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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