Scoot Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 16:29, geordiedean said: Quote Rafa Benitez responds to reports Mike Ashley is taking a closer role in transfers http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-responds-reports-mike-12466747#ICID=FB-Chron-main That doesn't fill me with positivity and confidence “Nothing has changed. We talk about transfers, our scouts and agents. Rafa sounds pretty ok to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 16:36, Scoot said: Quote Quote Rafa Benitez responds to reports Mike Ashley is taking a closer role in transfers http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-responds-reports-mike-12466747#ICID=FB-Chron-main That doesn't fill me with positivity and confidence “Nothing has changed. We talk about transfers, our scouts and agents. Rafa sounds pretty ok to me. hes probably looked at what Pardew was given, and thought Id have had that team in the latter stages of the champions league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I can't see what Ashley would have to be unhappy about with the transfers we have done. Quite a few would not be good enough for the Premier League but we would get our money back on most of them and there would not be a huge loss for others compared to e.g. Riviere, Thauvin, Cabella and probably Saivet. Virtually all of them have made a contribution. The only dodgy one is probably Gamez but that is only because he has been injured a lot but from the little we have seen of him, he looked like a decent player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Rafa always talks like that though. You can't say he's suddenly about to leave because of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 17:39, Wallace said: I can't see what Ashley would have to be unhappy about with the transfers we have done. Quite a few would not be good enough for the Premier League but we would get our money back on most of them and there would not be a huge loss for others compared to e.g. Riviere, Thauvin, Cabella and probably Saivet. Virtually all of them have made a contribution. The only dodgy one is probably Gamez but that is only because he has been injured a lot but from the little we have seen of him, he looked like a decent player. Aye but he's a twat. He's looking at Cabaye, Sissoko, Carroll, Wijnaldum, Debuchy etc and thinking we can do that regular. The first five words would have probably been enough there like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 My issue is what will this be like in the summer. I seriously think we'll need to bring in much better quality in a number of positions, will Ashley think he can do like what we did last time when we didn't even spend that much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Worrying comments if I'm perfectly honest. He's not going to rock the boat at this stage of the season, but next season? I honestly think he will take us up and then be off. That's his job to get us promotion. It wouldn't surprise me if Ashley looks at all that money spent on new players during the summer, players chosen by the manager, and thinks we should be promoted already. I'm worried and we all should be, this is fucking Mike Ashley we are talking about here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 17:43, neesy111 said: My issue is what will this be like in the summer. I seriously think we'll need to bring in much better quality in a number of positions, will Ashley think he can do like what we did last time when we didn't even spend that much? Depends. I can't really see Curbishley / Pardew / Pearson* pushing that hard for funds tbh. *delete as appropriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 He drove Keegan out. He has learned nothing and he will do it to Rafa. Ashley clearly has some sort of disorder - his repeated behaviour backs that up. He is not rational and I would much rather we sold to the Chinese at this point. (The only hope is that it *might* relate to maximising assets in relation to this: ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Not even gonna analyse what Rafa says, tbh. The fact it is even being discussed is concerning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 "Nothing has chanGed. We talk abOut transfers, Our scouts and agents. All that is in my heaD is signing the Best plaYErs for us.” Says it all... . Apparently, if you play the audio backwards you can hear a ghostly voice wail "Winston Churchill" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 He obviosuly hasn't read the Daily Mirror. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 16:35, loki679 said: Quote My priority is to be sure that the team is strong enough to compete from now until the end of the season Quote after that I will coach the team until the end of the season Quote I will try now until the end of the window to do what I have to do. And after that it will be just coaching Ah, f***. Aye that worried me a tad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 If Ashley meddles again and Rafa feels he has to walk away, then there is no hope and the nob head has not learned a thing in his nearly 10 years as owner of the football club. Leave it the fuck alone, you know nothing about football you useless fat cock. Leave it to the professionals. Rafa walks, Pardew back, whats the odds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 19:15, Northerngimp said: If Ashley meddles again and Rafa feels he has to walk away, then there is no hope and the nob head has not learned a thing in his nearly 10 years as owner of the football club. Leave it the fuck alone, you know nothing about football you useless fat cock. Leave it to the professionals. Rafa walks, Pardew back, whats the odds? Wouldn't care, I'd be done with it all tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Did write this at the time I think, but met Graham Carr a short while back. Seen some of the NE journalists pushing the angle that he's never seen his influence decline, that is categorically not true. He sounded as if he was just waiting to end his time with the club, said he felt he was unfairly given blame for some of the signings that were then managed poorly (mentioned Ben Arfa as the most telling example, but also Yanga-M'biwa, saying how he was obviously good enough for Lyon but not us). He also said, explicitly, that they'd given most of the control to Rafa and shrugged his shoulders at the signing of Murphy. So, whether or not there has been any change now, control over transfers was undoubtedly shifted to the manager last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 21:40, AlanSkärare said: Did write this at the time I think, but met Graham Carr a short while back. Seen some of the NE journalists pushing the angle that he's never seen his influence decline, that is categorically not true. He sounded as if he was just waiting to end his time with the club, said he felt he was unfairly given blame for some of the signings that were then managed poorly (mentioned Ben Arfa as the most telling example, but also Yanga-M'biwa, saying how he was obviously good enough for Lyon but not us). He also said, explicitly, that they'd given most of the control to Rafa and shrugged his shoulders at the signing of Murphy. So, whether or not there has been any change now, control over transfers was undoubtedly shifted to the manager last summer. That's good to hear, thanks for sharing. I agree with him on those players being poorly managed, by and large he's identified some really good players but we've not had the coaching staff to extract the best out of them or give them time and the tools to adapt to the English game. He'll be proved wrong on Murphy though I feel, he could prove to be a priceless signing in the current injury plight. He's already scored two important goals that have almost repaid the small fee (by today's standards) we paid. Rafa is in charge of this thing right now, unless we see evidence to the contrary people need to relax and enjoy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 21:40, AlanSkärare said: Did write this at the time I think, but met Graham Carr a short while back. Seen some of the NE journalists pushing the angle that he's never seen his influence decline, that is categorically not true. He sounded as if he was just waiting to end his time with the club, said he felt he was unfairly given blame for some of the signings that were then managed poorly (mentioned Ben Arfa as the most telling example, but also Yanga-M'biwa, saying how he was obviously good enough for Lyon but not us). He also said, explicitly, that they'd given most of the control to Rafa and shrugged his shoulders at the signing of Murphy. So, whether or not there has been any change now, control over transfers was undoubtedly shifted to the manager last summer. Interesting, saw you mention it on Twitter. How long ago was this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 21:50, Dave said: Quote Did write this at the time I think, but met Graham Carr a short while back. Seen some of the NE journalists pushing the angle that he's never seen his influence decline, that is categorically not true. He sounded as if he was just waiting to end his time with the club, said he felt he was unfairly given blame for some of the signings that were then managed poorly (mentioned Ben Arfa as the most telling example, but also Yanga-M'biwa, saying how he was obviously good enough for Lyon but not us). He also said, explicitly, that they'd given most of the control to Rafa and shrugged his shoulders at the signing of Murphy. So, whether or not there has been any change now, control over transfers was undoubtedly shifted to the manager last summer. Interesting, saw you mention it on Twitter. How long ago was this? Late September or early October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I just have a feeling something has changed. Not convinced by Rafa's replies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 The fact Graham Carr stayed on here said it all. He would never really have been needed after (A) Recommending Steve McClaren the manager that took us down. And (B) making all the recommended signings that had their part in the relegation. If Rafa was ever going to have total control on all transfers and club recruitment, Carr would not be here. The manager should be able to sack who he likes after a relegation and overhaul necessary. Carr seems to be protected otherwise Rafa would have enlisted his own scouting people? Somethings a miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Carr's got a contract lasting another few years, man. That's hopefully the only reason the utter waste of space is still here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Carr is a hugely negative influence - a failed coach, with an ego problem. If you read his son's autobiography, he does not come across well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Not to mention the fact that Kaka likes him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 18/01/2017 at 06:55, Pons Alias said: Carr is a hugely negative influence - a failed coach, with an ego problem. If you read his son's autobiography, he does not come across well. Why on Earth would you want to read Alan Carr's autobiography I do not know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts