Displayname Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 10 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Would be very interested to see the handball shout, was weird not to even see a replay. Why though? It was close and hands were in a natural position. Wasn't a pen even if it hit the hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 20 minutes ago, black_n_white said: The push on Burn was the most frustrating moment of the game last night, blatant cheating. I’d like to know Vars verdict on that Official statement from PGMOL: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 As the ball wasn’t in play when Burn was pushed all the ref could have done was delay the taking of the free kick if he’d seen it. Teams regularly push players into offside positions as a kick is about to be taken, do it once the ball is in play you can and will get penalised. Silva could have gone, they got some favourable decisions, Hall was clearly unimpressed. The one that probably got me most was when a City player was miles offside, the Lino played on maybe 2 phases before flagging leaving the commentators questioning where the offside was. In the 2nd half the same Lino immediately flagged Willock (?) on a very marginal decision where Willock would have been in behind. It’s was the definition of letting play on and let VAR do its job. Commentator simply said that the Lino must have been right in line….,infallible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/KpxtyDUj8M It's not true that VAR cannot intervene for stuff in the build up like, they can apply common sense. They could have let Burn's goal stand, we're being gaslit with this idea they're hands were tied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 10 hours ago, The Prophet said: Where's that from? Is it an AI answer because it's not actually in the rules as far as I can tell. Chapter's 11 and 12 here if I'm missing it and anyone can point it out to me: https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/laws-of-the-game-2025-26-double-pages?l=en Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Goal should have stood and everything else was also a joke. The amount of nothing fouls we had that were deemed yellows only for that little Portuguese seat sniffer to jump into Burn and get nothing man. You can add that to the immediate VAR dismissal of our goal, the complete lack of replay on the very vocal call for a hand ball (I'm not saying it was, but I'm saying I want to see at least one replay) but it went all the way down to every one of their offsides being played out to its conclusion and every one of ours being an immediate offside that stopped any chance of a conclusion, with the same linesman. As shit as always, they're absolutely fucking bent and it couldn't be more obvious. Was absolutely baffled that they didn't even show a replay of the handball, even from a distance it looked like a good shout. The push on Burn not getting called up by VAR was just par for the course these days. When even a dimwit tv commentator can spot it but the experts in the VAR box pretend it hasn't happened that tells you everything. Personally I don't blame VAR, just the shit referees who are implementing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 17 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/KpxtyDUj8M It's not true that VAR cannot intervene for stuff in the build up like, they can apply common sense. They could have let Burn's goal stand, we're being gaslit with this idea they're hands were tied. Actually this is disallowed for being less than 1m into the wall as the shot is taken so maybe I'm talking shit Are there no examples of fouls in the buildup affecting the decision? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) Don't know why when we can buy up all the world's best players we can't hire the best referees from around the world as well to officiate in the PL ? That way we could free up the current crop of PL referees to spend more time working out in the gym and going to their hairdressers. They seem to take more interest in how they look rather than how they perform nowadays. Edited February 22 by Benwell Lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 36 minutes ago, Tsunami said: As the ball wasn’t in play when Burn was pushed all the ref could have done was delay the taking of the free kick if he’d seen it. Teams regularly push players into offside positions as a kick is about to be taken, do it once the ball is in play you can and will get penalised. Silva could have gone, they got some favourable decisions, Hall was clearly unimpressed. The one that probably got me most was when a City player was miles offside, the Lino played on maybe 2 phases before flagging leaving the commentators questioning where the offside was. In the 2nd half the same Lino immediately flagged Willock (?) on a very marginal decision where Willock would have been in behind. It’s was the definition of letting play on and let VAR do its job. Commentator simply said that the Lino must have been right in line….,infallible. Yep. Arsenal do it all the time. I remember against us last season. They were doing it against us to get their players onside. Wait until the last minute and a blocker just barges a defender deeper than the rest of the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Benwell Lad said: Don't know why when we can buy up all the world's best players we can't as hire the best referees from around the world as we to officiate in the PL ? That way we could we could free up the current crop of PL referees to spend more time working out in the gym and going to their hairdressers. They seem to take more interest in how they look rather than how they perform nowadays. The look at me lino. Was his naff tribal tat and short back and daft cunt haircut. Irritated me no end last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Yep. Arsenal do it all the time. I remember against us last season. They were doing it against us to get their players onside. Wait until the last minute and a blocker just barges a defender deeper than the rest of the line. Similar to shirt pulls inside the penalty area. If refs actually awarded pens for them it would soon stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: The look at me lino. Was his naff tribal tat and short back and daft cunt haircut. Irritated me no end last night. Yeah, Ellery and Dean were streets ahead of the current crop of musclebound posers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 21 minutes ago, Checko said: Where's that from? Is it an AI answer because it's not actually in the rules as far as I can tell. Chapter's 11 and 12 here if I'm missing it and anyone can point it out to me: https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/laws-of-the-game-2025-26-double-pages?l=en My bad, I should have QA'd before posting. I think the geezer from BBC has the correct interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 12 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Actually this is disallowed for being less than 1m into the wall as the shot is taken so maybe I'm talking shit Are there no examples of fouls in the buildup affecting the decision? I thought you were making the point that they were considering an offence whilst the ball wasn't in play... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 37 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/KpxtyDUj8M It's not true that VAR cannot intervene for stuff in the build up like, they can apply common sense. They could have let Burn's goal stand, we're being gaslit with this idea they're hands were tied. Cheers for posting that. Seems fairly clear. Goal shouldve stood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, TRon said: Similar to shirt pulls inside the penalty area. If refs actually awarded pens for them it would soon stop. It will always happen when the ball isn’t in play, though. So unless there is a rule change. What can they do? Retake the free kick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Cheers for posting that. Seems fairly clear. Goal shouldve stood It shouldn’t like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: It will always happen when the ball isn’t in play, though. So unless there is a rule change. What can they do? Retake the free kick? If you wanted to be especially harsh you could say it was a second yellow for Dias (obv it wasn’t like). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Common sense should just be applied for circumstances like this in football instead of just saying “that’s the rule” and not doing anything about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Kicking the ball away apparently not a yellow card anymore based on last night either. You could see Hall telling the ref "that's three times now" and they did it at least another two after that. No doubt had we equalised and needed to kill some time we'd have seen the yellow fly out if our lads dared to kick it six inches after the whistle went. Someone needs to tell that thick cunt from yesterday that you don't need to wave your card around for virtually every single foul. The Willock one was a disgrace, obvious foul and a definite yellow if the City player was on a fast counter attack - except he was on about halfway with most of the players in front of him. Proper amateur level decision making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtua Stiva Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Give these fuckers semi-automated offsides and they use it to just photoshop decisions to suit certain teams. Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Wot no updates during the spuds game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Gabriel doing Gabriel thing again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 13 hours ago, Tsunami said: As the ball wasn’t in play when Burn was pushed all the ref could have done was delay the taking of the free kick if he’d seen it. Teams regularly push players into offside positions as a kick is about to be taken, do it once the ball is in play you can and will get penalised. Silva could have gone, they got some favourable decisions, Hall was clearly unimpressed. The one that probably got me most was when a City player was miles offside, the Lino played on maybe 2 phases before flagging leaving the commentators questioning where the offside was. In the 2nd half the same Lino immediately flagged Willock (?) on a very marginal decision where Willock would have been in behind. It’s was the definition of letting play on and let VAR do its job. Commentator simply said that the Lino must have been right in line….,infallible. the offside laws mention a player being pushed into an offside position. but this can only be possibly done before the ball is struck - there is no way of pushing someone into an offside position after the ball has been played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 37 minutes ago, huss9 said: the offside laws mention a player being pushed into an offside position. but this can only be possibly done before the ball is struck - there is no way of pushing someone into an offside position after the ball has been played. It doesn't. It mentions being fouled before attempting to play the ball, and in this case the foul being the offence. Bit you can't foul when the play is dead so from a free kick the push cannot be penalised as a foul. If it was a cross from open play then Burn could not have been offside as it would be a free kick to Isis, but there's nothing to say if the ref could allow play to continue from the push without the offside being called Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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