Zach Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Plus, I don't understand what people think Pardew could have done differently? His tactics were neccesary for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 We did that late in the game yeah and was a tad frustrating but that was mainly tiredness and urgency, didn't hoof it much for most the game, it was when Shola was on. Wasn't our worst hoofball either we got some serious chances nad pressure late on. We did mix it up true but we hit the long ball all game long, i dont remember many instances were we passed it like we can which is'nt suprising because 4-4-2 is cack when it comes to creativity, passing and movement which is why i dont like to see us playing it..... it only works for so long before you are found out. Wrong system and wrong tactics for me, but as i said as long as we learn from it i wont care too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Plus, I don't understand what people think Pardew could have done differently? His tactics were neccesary for me. Completely. We didn't lose because of tactics, we lost because of a cracking finish by Toure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I would have left Benny on, when you need a little bit of magic you need your magical player on the pitch, but I thought Benny had a poor first 25-30 mins then he did get going after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Plus, I don't understand what people think Pardew could have done differently? His tactics were neccesary for me. Playing counter attacking footy was perfectly reasonable, took a while to settle but we got some good chances from good footy in the first half. I'm not convinced we could have kept up a high pressing game and not conceeded loads against a team with plenty of players capable of passes beating offside traps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I would have left Benny on, when you need a little bit of magic you need your magical player on the pitch, but I thought Benny had a poor first 25-30 mins then he did get going after that. I aggree with that, would have been ba off for ameobi for me, but not sure it would have made a difference at that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 We did that late in the game yeah and was a tad frustrating but that was mainly tiredness and urgency, didn't hoof it much for most the game, it was when Shola was on. Wasn't our worst hoofball either we got some serious chances nad pressure late on. We did mix it up true but we hit the long ball all game long, i dont remember many instances were we passed it like we can which is'nt suprising because 4-4-2 is cack when it comes to creativity, passing and movement which is why i dont like to see us playing it..... it only works for so long before you are found out. Wrong system and wrong tactics for me, but as i said as long as we learn from it i wont care too much. Maybe i was just brain dead but I didn't think that at all. We played a lot of football along the ground, a lot of attacks started with runs just outside our own penalty box and down the left flank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 We didn't play much hoofball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Plus, I don't understand what people think Pardew could have done differently? His tactics were neccesary for me. Completely. We didn't lose because of tactics, we lost because of a cracking finish by Toure. That too but i felt the system was the wrong system to use against City...... thier tactics revolve around the centre so imo 4-3-3 would have been better to combat that and allow Jonas, Cabaye and Ben Arfa to play in roles they are more comfortable in...... Also i dont believe it would meant more space for City because 4-4-2 is far more open..... i personally believed we would have gave City more problems going forward if we went for 4-3-3 and it gives a defensive stability thant 4-4-2 doesnt. It worked great against Chelsea because of what sort of team they are but i think it was wrong to use today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 We didn't play much hoofball. Nah. I prefer 4-3-3 too, but tactics were fine today. City are a great side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Plus, I don't understand what people think Pardew could have done differently? His tactics were neccesary for me. Completely. We didn't lose because of tactics, we lost because of a cracking finish by Toure. That too but i felt the system was the wrong system to use against City...... thier tactics revolve around the centre so imo 4-3-3 would have been better to combat that and allow Jonas, Cabaye and Ben Arfa to play in roles they are more comfortable in...... Also i dont believe it would meant more space for City because 4-4-2 is far more open..... i personally believed we would have gave City more problems going forward if we went for 4-3-3 and it gives a defensive stability thant 4-4-2 doesnt. It worked great against Chelsea because of what sort of team they are but i think it was wrong to use today. Maybe, but I think the margin's were tight enough that it's hard to be clear cut that he got it wrong, and also I don't think we played badly, Pardew wanted pace up the wings on the break and that showed at times during the first half. If we narrowed up to match them centrally I think we may have struggled to let off the pressure. It was bad when Pardew was using that system against teams we could have dominated in centre of park, but don't really think we played much hoof ball anyway, not until shola came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Didn't really understand taking him off when we needed a goal, tired or not, he's always the most likely to open up a defence. Can't wait to see a full season of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Didn't really understand taking him off when we needed a goal, tired or not, he's always the most likely to open up a defence. Can't wait to see a full season of him. I responded the decision with my usual mega-rant every time Ben Arfa's withdrawn, but he'd ran out of steam and we were pumping balls into the box. Made sense to have that extra aerial presence in Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Toure another player/referee to add to the list of Ben Arfa putting on their arse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Didn't really understand taking him off when we needed a goal, tired or not, he's always the most likely to open up a defence. Can't wait to see a full season of him. I responded the decision with my usual mega-rant every time Ben Arfa's withdrawn, but he'd ran out of steam and we were pumping balls into the box. Made sense to have that extra aerial presence in Shola. I'd have replaced Jonas before Hatem tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Didn't really understand taking him off when we needed a goal, tired or not, he's always the most likely to open up a defence. Can't wait to see a full season of him. I responded the decision with my usual mega-rant every time Ben Arfa's withdrawn, but he'd ran out of steam and we were pumping balls into the box. Made sense to have that extra aerial presence in Shola. I'd have replaced Jonas before Hatem tbh. Jonas was at left-back by the time Shola came on (i think...). But meh, all relative. There was no getting past that defense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I don't think his attacking game was really suited to the plan today really. I get the feeling that Pards wanted us to be cautious in possession, wary of their threats and that's not really his thing, he barely roamed which is a big part of his game imo. His last 2 games have had to be very disciplined, hopefully he gets more freedom at Everton and we go 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Didn't really understand taking him off when we needed a goal, tired or not, he's always the most likely to open up a defence. Can't wait to see a full season of him. I responded the decision with my usual mega-rant every time Ben Arfa's withdrawn, but he'd ran out of steam and we were pumping balls into the box. Made sense to have that extra aerial presence in Shola. I'd have replaced Jonas before Hatem tbh. Jonas was at left-back by the time Shola came on (i think...). But meh, all relative. There was no getting past that defense. They came on together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Wireside claiming he was hauled off today. That bloke's a fucking dickhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Wireside talks poo. let's not give a shit what he says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Wireside claiming he was hauled off today. That bloke's a f***ing dickhead. What, again? The guy's an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 They put three defenders on him at times today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 That run in the first half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 They put three defenders on him at times today. He still put a couple of them on their arses. Although the players seemed to fall over a lot. Colo did a few times, including the one in which Toure should have scored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 That right foot volley too. Got to love him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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