ujpest doza Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 That never happened. It did as I commented on it straight away to the kid next to me who agreed they'd blanked him as well. he then complained to carver about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 That never happened. We all want him to have the ball the most, but they were definitely not ignoring him just because every pass didn't go to the right side. He made a nice little cameo, has to start tonight. He's not fit enough to start; that's the crux of most if this. He should be. If he does start he'll be far less effective than coming on with 20 to go. Bringing him on with 20 minutes or less left is part of the problem though, it leads to him forcing the game too much, rather than having time to work his way into the game. If he doesn't start he should be brought on with 30 minutes or more remaining like he was against Palace, even better just do it at half time.. Or just start him and don't force him to play RB counter-produce what they'll be doing. If we play Ben Arfa further up on the right, Baines will be forced to stay back a bit. Unfortunately our coward of a manager doesn't look it that way, he'll be playing Sissoko to defend Baines at home... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 My worry about him starting when not really anywhere near 100% fit is him getting injured again and being out for another month. better to ease him in as a sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 He tried that tactic with Marv at Goodison and it just failed epically, Baines didn't stay back, he just bombed past him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 He tried that tactic with Marv at Goodison and it just failed epically, Baines didn't stay back, he just bombed past him Different players though, I'd HBA skins Baines he'll know his role, like Think Ben Arfa will have to be fully fit like, as he's going to be up and down that touchline all night. Can't afford to be breathing out of his arse up against Baines. He can't personally pin him back, Everton will still have their spells in the game and Baines won't care if Ben Arfa is standing on the half way line waiting for a counter, he will just bomb forward still and think he can use that to his advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 That never happened. We all want him to have the ball the most, but they were definitely not ignoring him just because every pass didn't go to the right side. He made a nice little cameo, has to start tonight. He's not fit enough to start; that's the crux of most if this. He should be. If he does start he'll be far less effective than coming on with 20 to go. Bringing him on with 20 minutes or less left is part of the problem though, it leads to him forcing the game too much, rather than having time to work his way into the game. If he doesn't start he should be brought on with 30 minutes or more remaining like he was against Palace, even better just do it at half time.. Or just start him and don't force him to play RB counter-produce what they'll be doing. If we play Ben Arfa further up on the right, Baines will be forced to stay back a bit. Unfortunately our coward of a manager doesn't look it that way, he'll be playing Sissoko to defend Baines at home... Yeah basically the best way to combat Baines is pin him back. We won't do that though, like Baines won't stay back. That's why they play 4-2-3-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If Ben Arfa is fully fit, i would without a doubt start him as at the end of the day, you concentrate on how your players can hurt them rather than how they can hurt you, especially a fullback. However if he isn't fit enough yet it would be silly to ask him for such a difficult shift when Sissoko has put in some fine performances in that place and be better off sticking with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 He should still start if he's fit, of course, but he's going to have to work as Baines will be up and down and knows that he's just as much of a threat and will panic wide midfielders. There are times when he simply has to do his job, I think he's better with that responsibility anyway as he doesn't produce enough for a truly free role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Well, "Ando" is a mug. Having a slight go at Ben Arfa on Total Sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Well, "Ando" is a mug. Having a slight go at Ben Arfa on Total Sport. What's he said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Well, "Ando" is a mug. Having a slight go at Ben Arfa on Total Sport. What's he said? Was cheeky about what Ben Arfa brings to the team. Laughed off his contribution. Didn't think he should start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Who the hell is Ando? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Who the hell is Ando? John Anderson, former limited footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 John Anderson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Who is this motherfucker? /edit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Who is this motherfucker? /edit Ex left back from the 80's hard as fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'm getting old. People don't know who Ando is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Who is this motherfucker? /edit Ex left back from the 80's hard as f*** Right back wasn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I heard Anderson as well. He's never been a fan. For some reason people don't rate creativity. They'd much rather have a gouffran or sissoko on the flanks. Blows my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Need to see him sooner rather than later. As usual we are lacking creativity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'd rather lose with him one the side than him not in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'm exhausted even thinking about it any more. It's utterly ridiculous that he doesn't play every second of every game. There's literally nothing else you can say about the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The things this guy can do with the ball is pure genius. Sure he may lose the ball occasionally and or run into blind alleys, but fucking hell everytime he gets the ball he's trying to make things happen. No one else in our squad has the creativity he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Looks like there's definitely no fitness-related reason not to start him, at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Disgraceful that he's sat on the bench. I could tolerate the decision at the end of last year when we were winning games without him, but given how dire we've been since then, he should be one of the first names on the team sheet. Gouffran offers absolutely nothing at either end of the pitch and hasn't for months, if Ben Arfa played half as badly as he has lately he'd be absolutely slated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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