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Arsenal 2 - 1 Newcastle United - 12/03/12 - post-match reaction from page 50


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Guest neesy111

We didn't even test their defense enough to show whether we could had forced some mistakes / chances etc.  Really annoyed with our 2nd half tactics, pathetic.

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Rio Ferdinand ‏ @rioferdy5

Demba Ba heads a ball on to an arsenal player..commentator -"a wonderful header by Ba" come ooooon mate..flick on's don't deserve that talk!

 

I know it was the most Ferdinand has been dominated by a striker in years, but no need to still be bitter 2 months later.

 

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Central midfield was ripped in half by Rosicky. Hoof ball in the second half ended up being more of a result than a cause. We were willing to play it on the floor in the first half but it became too tempting to revert to type when it became evident that Cabaye was completing about as many passes as Rosicky was misplacing. (i.e., two.)

 

Our game relies too much on our central midfielders because a. they're our best players, and b. we have no wing threat. The games we've played badly this season are the games where Cabaye or Tiote have been in bad form or have been up against players who are just better. We were always going to struggle mightily against an on-form Arsenal.

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We weren't too bad in the first half imo. Kept possession well most of the time, we coped well with Arsenal's attacks (Van Persie's goal aside) and we were passing it around decent enough (which led us to having an actual go at Arsenal).

 

Then it went wrong in the second half - those long ball tactics didn't help our cause whatsoever. Firstly, it left Ba with nothing to thrive on and that ultimately meant him not having a good game; secondly, it meant that Ben Arfa's influence in the game lessened, what with the ball bypassing midfield and Hatem; and finally the long ball led to a loss of possession which in turn led to almost a barrage of Arsenal attacks. So really, Arsenal deserved their win but for us to lose in the 94th minute (where did the 5 added minutes even come from btw!?) was very gutting but you can't really argue that on the whole, Arsenal were the better team. Like I said in the "Hoofball" thread, I mentioned to my mate at half time that all we needed to do was to pass it along the deck - if we did this then we would have been fine (in terms of attacking and defending). But alas, that didn't happen and we're left with a night full of utter disappointment. 

 

Regarding the actual goals, Williamson and Simpson were at fault for Arsenal's. Shame really as I thought they both had decent enough games. Ben Arfa's goal was a good one, some nice precision and power with that shot.

 

I also have to add that I lost quite a bit of respect for Van Persie tonight. His behaviour tonight was completely unnecessary. Prick.

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We didn't value the ball enough and gave it away too easily.  Arsenal were closing down hard and we didn't handle it well, especially in the 2nd half.

The players were often bunched up and the passes too quick and hard.  I thought we defended well but began to wither under the pressure.  Still, we deserved a point.

 

Van Persie is playing like the best striker in the world right now but that is no excuse to act like a prick.

 

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Guest ThievingMagpie

If we don't concede immediately at the restart I think we continue to try and play football but once Van Persie went with an instant response the team panicked and shut down. I think going out and playing that game was a smart move from Pardew, we would have been murdered in an open game and we nearly snatched a draw. I think the team is at it's limit right now and we probably won't be able to push higher on our own without help from other teams.

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Never five minutes in a million years but that was very naive dropped bollock at the end there. As someone suggested, even after giving them the ball, someone should have taken a yellow to stop the break.

 

For all the latest media kneejerk lovefest for Arsenal, Liverpool did outplay them at Anfield, so it would have been nice to have not sat back so much in the second half.

 

Obertan again showed why he shouldn't be picked ahead of HBA as he was for many games.

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We are weak in defence with Williamson, Simpson is "decent" at best but no more than that and Santon is still unproven at left back. That all leaves Coloccini and Krul far too exposed.

 

In midfield it all looks a bit disjointed to me. Cabaye has gone off the boil and we don't have nearly enough attacking options which leaves us looking a bit stagnated imo. For all I love about Jonas he doesn't offer nearly enough of a regular goal/creative threat imo.

 

Obertan is just s****, lol

 

I thought Arsenal's play probably deserved the win and they had enough chances to put the match away in the last 20 mins but to concede like that at the end was ridiculous. There wasn't anyone anywhere near the right side when the ball fell to Vermaelen to striker, pathetic. Got to learn from situations like this.

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Somewhere there is a tactical book with one page that reads 'hoof it down the middle'. It's a book lost in the mists of time, back around the mid-80's. Legend says the one who finds the book and uses it wisely will hypnostise his followers.

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Our unbeaten start to the season was characterized by a certain fearlessness we had. We were a team confidently playing for each other. Our run of late has been characterized by fear and panic, from the way we set out, our shape, movement and passing.

 

You can feel and hear that distinction in Pardew's interviews then and now.

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Guest neesy111

We had 52% possession 2nd half and then ended up with 41% for the whole game.  Really shows how much we fell apart as a team 2nd half.

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I dont agree with alot of the sentiment on here. Thought up until the last few seconds we did the job. Loads of commitment from the team, would have been a fantastic result to come away with a point and we failed that with seconds to go.

 

We are years from out passing Arsenal. THey are a quality side. We are still many many years from being able to out play them. Our job was to contain and come away with something, anything, and i believe that , where we are as a team, that was the right approach.

 

 

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Guest BooBoo

It was similar to the second half onslaught at Old Traffird. That day we saw it out and were heroes, last night we just fell short and some and calling us cowardly. Fine margins.

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You cant question the commitment of graft last night. You could see on the players faces how hard they had worked. We are just lacking some quality at the back and playing too much long ball at the moment.

 

Simpsons throw in was suicidal though.

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Guest icemanblue

Agree with the two posts above. It was a very similar performance to Man Utd away. If we'd have kept the ball in the corner, like we should have, then it was over. Fuck knows what that throw was about. Disappointing, but it says a lot that we're coming away from there feeling that way. I was expecting a hiding.

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