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Newcastle United vs. Stoke City - 21/04/2012 @ 3PM (Today)


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This should be one of the easier 3 points if we are at full strength.

Pulis and his Stoke teams reliance on horrendous anti-football tactics will be undone by our players playing proper football with guile and flair. Wigan will be more of a threat in the following game because they try to play proper football too.

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This should be one of the easier 3 points if we are at full strength.

Pulis and his Stoke teams reliance on horrendous anti-football tactics will be undone by our players playing proper football with guile and flair. Wigan will be more of a threat in the following game because they try to play proper football too.

 

I would say it is probably the other way round to be honest. Stoke will be very hard to break down, but Wigan will come at us and we will get them on the counter.

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The last fe games i've been saying i'd take 1-0. So i'll say it again, i'd take 1-0. :lol:

 

This  :lol: at this stage its just important to win i will get frustrated as f*ck during the games but it will be worth it in the end if we get a european spot.

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PLEASE dont get on the players back if its 0-0 at ht. And if stoke equalise on 60 odd minutes, as the crazy fm German kid says,.time for positive thinking.

 

Only boo at ft

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I just hope that Pardew, for just one game, doesn't prepare a specific game-plan (and with it compromising the formation) to nullafy Pulis' anti-football pattern of play. In attack Stoke play for stoppages in their attacking half, and batter teams in the box. They're much more structured & methodical than the Wimbledon Crazy Gang teams, hence they're tough to prepare against. You just have to be mentally ready for the physical challenge etc that Stoke offers.

 

Personally i think Pulis (at least on the field) is bringing the game into disrepute, and there are others too. I'm not Mancini's biggest fan, but fair play to him for recently refusing to to acknowledge him (shake his hand iirc) post game. The football Pulis coaches (or the dog's breakfast that it is) isn't in the spirit of the game,. It's impossible to dock them points but looking at the bigger picture the FA has to grow some balls and set a precedent, for the good of the game in this country - at least from a player development aspect, and we're far behind the Germans atm.

 

If clubs like Stoke willingly & continue to employ an anti-football philosophy, by employing specialist anti-football coaches as a means of ensuring they pick up their annual slice of the premiership moneytrain, then penalise them financially. The likes of Pulis & Allardyce (ie. survival specialists, who are the anti-thesis of actually developing players technically), with their ideas, will eventually be phased out of the game if clubs come to the realisation that they're poisoned chalices.

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I just hope that Pardew, for just one game, doesn't prepare a specific game-plan (and with it compromising the formation) to nullafy Pulis' anti-football pattern of play. In attack Stoke play for stoppages in their attacking half, and batter teams in the box. They're much more structured & methodical than the Wimbledon Crazy Gang teams, hence they're tough to prepare against. You just have to be mentally ready for the physical challenge etc that Stoke offers.

 

Personally i think Pulis (at least on the field) is bringing the game into disrepute, and there are others too. I'm not Mancini's biggest fan, but fair play to him for recently refusing to to acknowledge him (shake his hand iirc) post game. The football Pulis coaches (or the dog's breakfast that it is) isn't in the spirit of the game,. It's impossible to dock them points but looking at the bigger picture the FA has to grow some balls and set a precedent, for the good of the game in this country - at least from a player development aspect, and we're far behind the Germans atm.

 

If clubs like Stoke willingly & continue to employ an anti-football philosophy, by employing specialist anti-football coaches as a means of ensuring they pick up their annual slice of the premiership moneytrain, then penalise them financially. The likes of Pulis & Allardyce (ie. survival specialists, who are the anti-thesis of actually developing players technically), with their ideas, will eventually be phased out of the game if clubs come to the realisation that they're poisoned chalices.

 

Appreciate the sentiments about Stoke but do you not remember Pardew putting together a game plan to specifically deal with Stoke and us thumping them earlier in the year.

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I just hope that Pardew, for just one game, doesn't prepare a specific game-plan (and with it compromising the formation) to nullafy Pulis' anti-football pattern of play. In attack Stoke play for stoppages in their attacking half, and batter teams in the box. They're much more structured & methodical than the Wimbledon Crazy Gang teams, hence they're tough to prepare against. You just have to be mentally ready for the physical challenge etc that Stoke offers.

 

Personally i think Pulis (at least on the field) is bringing the game into disrepute, and there are others too. I'm not Mancini's biggest fan, but fair play to him for recently refusing to to acknowledge him (shake his hand iirc) post game. The football Pulis coaches (or the dog's breakfast that it is) isn't in the spirit of the game,. It's impossible to dock them points but looking at the bigger picture the FA has to grow some balls and set a precedent, for the good of the game in this country - at least from a player development aspect, and we're far behind the Germans atm.

 

If clubs like Stoke willingly & continue to employ an anti-football philosophy, by employing specialist anti-football coaches as a means of ensuring they pick up their annual slice of the premiership moneytrain, then penalise them financially. The likes of Pulis & Allardyce (ie. survival specialists, who are the anti-thesis of actually developing players technically), with their ideas, will eventually be phased out of the game if clubs come to the realisation that they're poisoned chalices.

 

Appreciate the sentiments about Stoke but do you not remember Pardew putting together a game plan to specifically deal with Stoke and us thumping them earlier in the year.

 

That was a classic performance of how to deal with Stoke.

 

Shouldn't be forgotten he's spent quite a bit as well with no change in style, he will get them relegated and they've struggled badly at times this year.

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The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that we have this extended break before this one. Don't think we've been at our best coming back from international or cup breaks this season. Have we won any?

 

Breaks over 8 days:

 

Mon 12 Sep: QPR (a) 0-0

Sun 16 Oct: Spurs (h) 2-2

Sat 19 Nov: Man Citeh (a) 1-3

Sat 25 Feb: Wolves (h) 2-2

Sat 21 Apr: Sterk (h) ?-?

 

 

 

Good stat.

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Their football is dire to watch and kind of rank but it's not some offence against sporting philosophy, ffs. It's a game plan, you're allowed to have one.

 

For me it's as much the fact that they show no will to improve or play anything approaching decent football.  He's had quite a lot of money to spend and all he's done with it is bought big fellas who fit into his ugly football style.  No ambition to play anything other than battering ram style hoofball, no ambition to do anything other than stay in the premiership, no ambition to develop the club at all.

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Their football is dire to watch and kind of rank but it's not some offence against sporting philosophy, ffs. It's a game plan, you're allowed to have one.

 

Nah, its a crime man.  Pulis should be arrested and forced to lick Jimmy Hills chin forever.

 

I dont buy this excuse that they have to play like that because of budgets etc, they spunked 10 million on a 30 something in Crunchie.

 

Then you look at teams like Swansea and Norwhich who could only dream of spending that money of a single player but play good to decent foot with a tight budget.

 

 

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Their football is dire to watch and kind of rank but it's not some offence against sporting philosophy, ffs. It's a game plan, you're allowed to have one.

 

For me it's as much the fact that they show no will to improve or play anything approaching decent football.  He's had quite a lot of money to spend and all he's done with it is bought big fellas who fit into his ugly football style.  No ambition to play anything other than battering ram style hoofball, no ambition to do anything other than stay in the premiership, no ambition to develop the club at all.

 

Each season they stay in the league they are developing their club tbh.

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