Guest Nixon Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Bet old Siem is starting to question the Champions league ambitions already The lad's been sold an utter lie, not his fault tbh. He's not the first and won't be the last player to fall for the spin and bullshit. Far too trusting but he'll soon have his eyes opened, the poor c***. People keep saying this, but do you really think a Dutch international is that naive? Do you not think he has advisors on top of his agent scouting the clubs that are interested in his services? I know players far smaller than Siem de Jong who do a logo f research on prospective suitors. I think he's probably been told that and has said it so it's on record. That way he comes here, does well, and if we aren't there he's got his exit strategy. This game is very PR orientated now. The idea he's some meek little lamb who's been conned by us is somewhat misleading. I wouldn't have thought so. He may well have researched the club, but also he prob had extensive meetings with our lot, who would have told him about what we hope to achieve etc. It's hardly a stretch to think that he might well have took it at face value. he's hardly going to turn around when he wants a move and say "well they said they were aiming for the champions league" He'll likely have English representatives too, or at least a company with links to English clubs/the league. It's very common to seek outside opinions that are objective of the situation (i.e. with nothing to gain). Tim Vickery has mentioned doing this a lot, being an information point for clubs. I think he'll be aware of our league finishes and the shit season we just had/our lack of spending. I'll concede he may not be cynical enough to use it like I first proposed, but I bet there's part of him questioning how honest they are. The sad thing is, de Jong is the kind of player we should be looking at to get that Champions League football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 8 Mil is a complete traversty if true. Aye, I'm sure that's the total amount, There should be a trouser smiley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Bet old Siem is starting to question the Champions league ambitions already The lad's been sold an utter lie, not his fault tbh. He's not the first and won't be the last player to fall for the spin and bullshit. Far too trusting but he'll soon have his eyes opened, the poor c***. People keep saying this, but do you really think a Dutch international is that naive? Do you not think he has advisors on top of his agent scouting the clubs that are interested in his services? I know players far smaller than Siem de Jong who do a logo f research on prospective suitors. I think he's probably been told that and has said it so it's on record. That way he comes here, does well, and if we aren't there he's got his exit strategy. This game is very PR orientated now. The idea he's some meek little lamb who's been conned by us is somewhat misleading. I wouldn't have thought so. He may well have researched the club, but also he prob had extensive meetings with our lot, who would have told him about what we hope to achieve etc. It's hardly a stretch to think that he might well have took it at face value. he's hardly going to turn around when he wants a move and say "well they said they were aiming for the champions league" He'll likely have English representatives too, or at least a company with links to English clubs/the league. It's very common to seek outside opinions that are objective of the situation (i.e. with nothing to gain). Tim Vickery has mentioned doing this a lot, being an information point for clubs. I think he'll be aware of our league finishes and the s*** season we just had/our lack of spending. I'll concede he may not be cynical enough to use it like I first proposed, but I bet there's part of him questioning how honest they are. The sad thing is, de Jong is the kind of player we should be looking at to get that Champions League football. Yeah definitely, I think he'll have questioned it but I do think they'll have sold him an a pipe dream. PR/Spin similar to what Cabaye was told in regard to the football we would play. SDJ wins regardless to be fair: He performs well and ge gets sold to a bigger club. He doesn't and we are stuck with his sizeable wage for 6 years ala Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 8 Mil is a complete traversty if true. Nah, it's a decent film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Bet old Siem is starting to question the Champions league ambitions already The lad's been sold an utter lie, not his fault tbh. He's not the first and won't be the last player to fall for the spin and bullshit. Far too trusting but he'll soon have his eyes opened, the poor c***. People keep saying this, but do you really think a Dutch international is that naive? Do you not think he has advisors on top of his agent scouting the clubs that are interested in his services? I know players far smaller than Siem de Jong who do a logo f research on prospective suitors. I think he's probably been told that and has said it so it's on record. That way he comes here, does well, and if we aren't there he's got his exit strategy. This game is very PR orientated now. The idea he's some meek little lamb who's been conned by us is somewhat misleading. yep and i'm almost 100 percent sure, players like Siem de Jong, Debuchy , Sissoko, Cabaye, Mbiwa etc all had some sort of agreement with fat Mike. If not written then its verbal, that when a right offer comes in we wont stand in their way if they choose to move. That's how we do our so called great deals. Our club is a vehicle, a platform now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 8 Mil is a complete traversty if true. Nah, it's a decent film. Totally fictitious too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Heart break nr.1. Awaiting others. Love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 8 Mil is a complete traversty if true. I read earlier that its 8m rising to 12 based on bonuses, not that it matters anyway as all of it will be trousered anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Far too cheap at that price, don't get it at all. No sense in selling him for that amount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Far too cheap at that price, don't get it at all. No sense in selling him for that amount. Why should we care? We'll never see a reinvestment of it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Such a waste of time - the many of us who watched and wanted him to play for us before signing him and then not, then finally signing him and loving every bit of his style of play - even the bad days - or the Debuchy, da, da, da, da chant. Dude's an absolute warrior out there. If true, and when confirmed - good luck to him. It's such a shame these players see us nothing more than a step to their next step. Fucking regime, fucking Pardew, this club's good name is absolutley worthless and its sad, painful really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 £8m or £80m. Makes not a jot of difference. The result will be the same, we'll see £0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Goodbye to the best RB I've ever seen play for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Debuchy has announced in French TV that he is joining Arsenal. #nufc #afc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Not sure why people say the fee makes no difference. We are more likely to spend more money (however little) the more we get for Debuchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Fuck sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Great... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Fucking Paul Dummett will be starting next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 FFS NUFC. Who the hell is going to replace him? Guessing Micah Richard but TBH why can't we just have both. What a stupid club we have? Worst selling since we only got Eight Mil for Shay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 FFS NUFC. Who the hell is going to replace him? Guessing Micah Richard but TBH why can't we just have both. What a stupid club we have? Worst selling since we only got Eight Mil for Shay. Naw I'd say the 19M for Cabaye to a team who paid like 40M for Luiz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 We got £8m for Shay? Thought it was less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 http://a.pomf.se/qjsgmj.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 We got £8m for Shay? Thought it was less. Thought between £5/6m - got done then too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 We got £8m for Shay? Thought it was less. Just checked. Turns out it was six million. Jesus Christ made me feel even worse now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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