David Icke - Son of God Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hate this "small club mentality" he always brings up. Don´t understand what he wants at all at this club. Always talking about better clubs, better players, other clubs that are bigger than us that are going to buy our players etc etc. Read the bloody article, mate. Christ. Took the words right out of my mouth Forgetting that he wasn't talking about other clubs buying our players, he also said "there aren't many that are bigger than us." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Someone on a west ham forum hates him. Must be a cunt then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hate this "small club mentality" he always brings up. Don´t understand what he wants at all at this club. Always talking about better clubs, better players, other clubs that are bigger than us that are going to buy our players etc etc. Read the bloody article, mate. Christ. fair enough then, for this time. Still think I have a bit right though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 "I do feel after January this team is definitely going to be stronger" Does this mean he is confident of signing some new player in the transfer window, or is he referring to Cabaye and Taylor coming back from injury. It could be both, it could be neither - what it definitely is, is the kind of slippery ambiguous crap that makes it hard to trust AP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Means don't expect many points between now and January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 We'll sign fuck all in January, classic Pardew sound bite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I do think this window will be more 2010 than 2011. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I do think this window will be more 2010 than 2011. This dont help me Ron, was the window better then. I'm so used to us making a profit i cant remember us buying a player without checking down the back of the sofa first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 We spent a net £5m on players we badly needed. X Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 We spent a net £5m on players we badly needed. X Ah right mate, £5m net spend isn't going to go far like (unless its a Carroll scenario, which i just cant see). We need to spend more than that and as Ashley has proven i doubt we will muchly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 That got us what we needed in that league, though. Translates to more in the PL, but maybe I'm just a hopeless dreamer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 That got us what we needed in that league, though. Translates to more in the PL, but maybe I'm just a hopeless dreamer. Ahhh yes promotion season. But no Ron that would be including one Mike Williamson. I officially now hate you for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 2 years to the day since he was appointed. That means hes lasted longer than everyone except Keegan and Robson over the past 2 decades and its also fair to say he's done a good job on the whole. I'm still very much a fan of his anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 2 years to the day since he was appointed. That means hes lasted longer than everyone except Keegan and Robson over the past 2 decades and its also fair to say he's done a good job on the whole. I'm still very much a fan of his anyway. It's fucking ridiculous to suggest otherwise tbh. He's never going to be the favourite of some, simply because he's such an easy character to get on the back of if a few results don't go our way, but his achievements over the past 18 months should mean he gets the benefit of the doubt for the foreseeable future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It's f***ing ridiculous to suggest otherwise tbh. He's never going to be the favourite of some, simply because he's such an easy character to get on the back of if a few results don't go our way, but his achievements over the past 18 months should mean he gets the benefit of the doubt for the foreseeable future. At what cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 2 years to the day since he was appointed. That means hes lasted longer than everyone except Keegan and Robson over the past 2 decades and its also fair to say he's done a good job on the whole. I'm still very much a fan of his anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 'But we are going to lose Cheick, we have obviously lost Cabaye, we have lost Steven Taylor and we have got some big teams coming, big clubs, bigger clubs than us - and there aren't many that are bigger than us. Sounds like he is getting the excuses in already. I just wish he would stop banging on about who we don't have all the time and just try and do a job with what we do have. The fact is, everyone at the club is under performing bar one or two and that isn't because Cabaye and co aren't on the pitch. I wonder how the fringe players feel listening to Pardew constantly moan about players who are unavailable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It's f***ing ridiculous to suggest otherwise tbh. He's never going to be the favourite of some, simply because he's such an easy character to get on the back of if a few results don't go our way, but his achievements over the past 18 months should mean he gets the benefit of the doubt for the foreseeable future. At what cost? he's got to have it like, i'm far from a fan of pardew but letting him go would be insanity....i've very clearly said i don't think he'll ever progress us as a club (as far as we should with our current quality of player) and in many ways i feel he's holding back our progress significantly the alternatives are too terrifying to consider though...not a chance ashley would appoint a better manager than pardew, none whatsoever, so you have to ask yourself what the cost would be if he goes? unless we're in serious danger of being relegated he'll stay, and i think it's for the best until ashley either fucks off or starts taking us seriously as a football club rather than just a balance sheet best case scenario he gets plan a working again i suppose, 'cause there's clearly no plan b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It's f***ing ridiculous to suggest otherwise tbh. He's never going to be the favourite of some, simply because he's such an easy character to get on the back of if a few results don't go our way, but his achievements over the past 18 months should mean he gets the benefit of the doubt for the foreseeable future. At what cost? he's got to have it like, i'm far from a fan of pardew but letting him go would be insanity....i've very clearly said i don't think he'll ever progress us as a club (as far as we should with our current quality of player) and in many ways i feel he's holding back our progress significantly the alternatives are too terrifying to consider though...not a chance ashley would appoint a better manager than pardew, none whatsoever, so you have to ask yourself what the cost would be if he goes? unless we're in serious danger of being relegated he'll stay, and i think it's for the best until ashley either f***s off or starts taking us seriously as a football club rather than just a balance sheet best case scenario he gets plan a working again i suppose, 'cause there's clearly no plan b I agree with what you are saying I don´t think Pardew should stay because he earn it, he should stay because Ashley is an idiot. And that´s why it´s so sad and why I have trouble to enjoy us playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It's f***ing ridiculous to suggest otherwise tbh. He's never going to be the favourite of some, simply because he's such an easy character to get on the back of if a few results don't go our way, but his achievements over the past 18 months should mean he gets the benefit of the doubt for the foreseeable future. At what cost? he's got to have it like, i'm far from a fan of pardew but letting him go would be insanity....i've very clearly said i don't think he'll ever progress us as a club (as far as we should with our current quality of player) and in many ways i feel he's holding back our progress significantly the alternatives are too terrifying to consider though...not a chance ashley would appoint a better manager than pardew, none whatsoever, so you have to ask yourself what the cost would be if he goes? unless we're in serious danger of being relegated he'll stay, and i think it's for the best until ashley either f***s off or starts taking us seriously as a football club rather than just a balance sheet best case scenario he gets plan a working again i suppose, 'cause there's clearly no plan b I agree with what you are saying I don´t think Pardew should stay because he earn it, he should stay because Ashley is an idiot. And that´s why it´s so sad and why I have trouble to enjoy us playing. that's not exactly what i'm saying, by no stretch of the imagination has he earned a sacking yet either...it's all about whether you believe he can improve us long term i don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It's f***ing ridiculous to suggest otherwise tbh. He's never going to be the favourite of some, simply because he's such an easy character to get on the back of if a few results don't go our way, but his achievements over the past 18 months should mean he gets the benefit of the doubt for the foreseeable future. At what cost? he's got to have it like, i'm far from a fan of pardew but letting him go would be insanity....i've very clearly said i don't think he'll ever progress us as a club (as far as we should with our current quality of player) and in many ways i feel he's holding back our progress significantly the alternatives are too terrifying to consider though...not a chance ashley would appoint a better manager than pardew, none whatsoever, so you have to ask yourself what the cost would be if he goes? unless we're in serious danger of being relegated he'll stay, and i think it's for the best until ashley either f***s off or starts taking us seriously as a football club rather than just a balance sheet best case scenario he gets plan a working again i suppose, 'cause there's clearly no plan b I agree with what you are saying I don´t think Pardew should stay because he earn it, he should stay because Ashley is an idiot. And that´s why it´s so sad and why I have trouble to enjoy us playing. that's not exactly what i'm saying, by no stretch of the imagination has he earned a sacking yet either...it's all about whether you believe he can improve us long term i don't The second line referred more to what I think rather than what you said. You said that you don´t think Pardew will improve us in the long term, neither do I. You said that he hasn´t earned to be sacked, I disagree. So all in all the only thing that differed was the "Pardew earn some time" part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 2 years to the day since he was appointed. That means hes lasted longer than everyone except Keegan and Robson over the past 2 decades and its also fair to say he's done a good job on the whole. I'm still very much a fan of his anyway. It's fucking ridiculous to suggest otherwise tbh. He's never going to be the favourite of some, simply because he's such an easy character to get on the back of if a few results don't go our way, but his achievements over the past 18 months should mean he gets the benefit of the doubt for the foreseeable future. By all means give him the benefit of the doubt, no doubt last year has earned him longer than others would have got. But by picking a weak team on Wednesday then publicly blaming the kids for not stepping up, he's just confirmed to me what an arsehole he is. I hope he makes me eat my words, but I reckon the longer he stays, the more chance of us losing the better footballers at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 You said that he hasn´t earned to be sacked, I disagree. find that pretty amazing myself; decent first season, then manager of the year when a lot of things went his way and we came close to CL qualification...this year has been awful but we're not even half way through the season madness to even think that sacking him could be justified on his record at this point he'll only ever use his plan a unless forced to do something else, therefore if he gets a couple of defensive reinforcements in january and gets the team solid again we'll climb the table....it'd be horrible like, and flair players would hate it i'm sure (as would i), but as said the alternative is unthinkable or plan can't be recovered and the club will be forced into a decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 The manager of the year that left Hatem out for 15 games. Yes the same one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I would like to see this club have a philosophy through the entire club. From how we play, to how we should develop players. Obviously Barcelona is the best example. But there are many more clubs too, and not only in football, that demonstrate success with a good youth system. Watching our youngsters that have come through is painful. None of them (execpt Bigi, and he was just brought in from another club) seems good with the ball or have good movement. This is not only down to Pardew. The whole club needs to come together and set up this strategy. But I´m 100 % sure that if we could implant a identity that says "this is Newcastle" through the club we would be a club to watch out for. Now, and how it´s been down the years, is all about the first team really, even if we have done some good things lately. But how is the club going to improve in the long term when not even Pardew knows how the first team should play? As I said. It´s not only Pardews responsibility. But why should we have a manager develop our club that can´t even teach some basic passing drills for the first team? That´s why he have to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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