Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 There's nothing wrong with either of those as a set up, the problem is we have no movement and attacking play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I don't know about anyone else but I will find it hard to forgive Pardew for providing Do Canio the opportunity to strut around our ground fist-pumping in glory after winning 3-0. Do Canio had the balls to press us high up the pitch, and considering they were in serious relegation trouble that took some guts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Aye, Chris_R. Spot on, that. That just makes you realise the utter shit that we have to put up with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 There's nothing wrong with either of those as a set up, the problem is we have no movement and attacking play. There's plenty wrong with only ever having 3, or 4 if a fullback joins in, players attacking. It's crazy. And our defence stays way too deep. There's nothing wrong with the 1st pic as a setup if you don't have the ball, but it's fucking stupid way to try to score goals when you do have the ball. That's the problem. We can play as image 1 when they have the ball, or deeper even if need be, but we just don't push up to the second image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 yeh i thought people would have figure out now its not about formations and who plays where, pardew has tried pretty much everything, with the same out come, turgid football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I don't know about anyone else but I will find it hard to forgive Pardew for providing Do Canio the opportunity to strut around our ground fist-pumping in glory after winning 3-0. Do Canio had the balls to press us high up the pitch, and considering they were in serious relegation trouble that took some guts. Yup. Just gave them the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 There's nothing wrong with either of those as a set up, the problem is we have no movement and attacking play. There's plenty wrong with only ever having 3, or 4 if a fullback joins in, players attacking. It's crazy. And our defence stays way too deep. There's nothing wrong with the 1st pic as a setup if you don't have the ball, but it's fucking stupid way to try to score goals when you do have the ball. That's the problem. We can play as image 1 when they have the ball, or deeper even if need be, but we just don't push up to the second image. I dont mean the depth mate, i meant the actual formation itself. Same formation but pushed up is fine with good movement, should have made that clearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Except Marv played out wide today for big parts of the first half? In my hurry to do the pics and because I watched swathes of the match through gaps in my fingers, maybe Sissoko, Gouffran and Marveaux could be interchanged a bit. But that's the formation, either way, and that's my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 All what we're on about Ba and Canaye were moaning about in France a few months ago. Lost in translation my arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Our phases of transition are possibly the worst I've ever seen from a team at this level. I've said it for ages now, but it cripples us completely. Its all down to a complete lack of ambition, nous and organisation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Look at how easily we sliced through them on the deck for the second Mignolet save from Cisse. In spite of that, how many lofted crosses did we put in from deep positions that were easily cleared with barely a challenge? Our players are good enough but they are playing with no logical shape or tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 His excuses in the post- match interview made me want to smash up my computer, unforgivable, and once again doesn't take a single shred of the blame. I don't want this stupid fucker in my club anymore. Haven't for months to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 There's nothing wrong with either of those as a set up, the problem is we have no movement and attacking play. There's plenty wrong with only ever having 3, or 4 if a fullback joins in, players attacking. It's crazy. And our defence stays way too deep. There's nothing wrong with the 1st pic as a setup if you don't have the ball, but it's f***ing stupid way to try to score goals when you do have the ball. That's the problem. We can play as image 1 when they have the ball, or deeper even if need be, but we just don't push up to the second image. I dont mean the depth mate, i meant the actual formation itself. Same formation but pushed up is fine with good movement, should have made that clearer. Oh for sure. That's really all formation 2 is: Formation 1 but pushed forward. Except Cabaye moves forward as well so there's only 1 holding midfielder, but it could still work (but be a bit less gung-ho) with Cabaye further back but I think that would be a waste of his talents, as we're seeing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Our players are good enough but they are playing with no logical shape or tactics. Nail on head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I don't know about anyone else but I will find it hard to forgive Pardew for providing Do Canio the opportunity to strut around our ground fist-pumping in glory after winning 3-0. Do Canio had the balls to press us high up the pitch, and considering they were in serious relegation trouble that took some guts. We should pin the inevitable montage of clips of Di Canio celebrating at our ground at the top of our board as a reminder of what Pardew has put us through today. Irrespective of what he does here from now on, there should be no way back for him after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Honestly thought I'd wake up to pages and pages of reactions to his resignation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Look at how easily we sliced through them on the deck for the second Mignolet save from Cisse. In spite of that, how many lofted crosses did we put in from deep positions that were easily cleared with barely a challenge? Our players are good enough but they are playing with no logical shape or tactics. Yes, we had the odd moment when the player put togethewr some really nice moves off the cuff. If we had a coach who understood how to implement it as a system then I've no doubt we'd be in the top 6 no problem. We have a far better squad than most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 :Look a bit tired to me do Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 What an utter prick this bloke is. Just fuck off please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Our players are good enough but they are playing with no logical shape or tactics. Nail on head. As much as I have more time for Pardew than most, I have to agree this happens far too often. Strangely we manage to be rigid but also all over the shop at the same time. He needs to raise his game next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Our players are good enough but they are playing with no logical shape or tactics. Nail on head. As much as I have more time for Pardew than most, I have to agree this happens far too often. Strangely we manage to be rigid but also all over the shop at the same time. He needs to raise his game next season. WUM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 'kin hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Our players are good enough but they are playing with no logical shape or tactics. Nail on head. As much as I have more time for Pardew than most, I have to agree this happens far too often. Strangely we manage to be rigid but also all over the shop at the same time. He needs to raise his game next season. WUM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 How can he, though? He's sadly just not intelligent enough to get it right, tactically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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