Mole_Toonfan Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Anita needs to switch to RB long term, looks completely lost in CM but great as a fullback. Which is strange considering at Ajax he looked much more comfortable as a CM than a fullback, probably due to the pace of the league and frantic nature of it. Long term he will be a CM but for now while he's getting used to the pace of the league he should stay at fullback, or at least only play him at CM once Tiote is back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brendan_Rice Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maiawwUrCw1rurv44.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Le Tissier has always been a dick towards us imo. 100%. He hates us. Compounded by him scoring loads of amazing goals against us. It wasn't just those 2 famous ones, he scored some other peaches as well. Pretty sure there are quotes somewhere about him hating us. He's very Southern, isn't fond of the North in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Didn't watch 2nd half, sounded like it was quite decent. Very happy with a point after watching the 1st half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Didn't watch 2nd half, sounded like it was quite decent. Very happy with a point after watching the 1st half. We were excellent 2nd half, even if they arguably deserved 2 extra goals due to bad decisions. Played a mix of hoofball and decent stuff. Worth watching properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Didn't watch 2nd half, sounded like it was quite decent. Very happy with a point after watching the 1st half. We were excellent 2nd half, even if they arguably deserved 2 extra goals due to bad decisions. Played a mix of hoofball and decent stuff. Worth watching properly. Where did you go after the first half like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Anita needs to switch to RB long term, looks completely lost in CM but great as a fullback. He has one of the best midfield partnerships to the league to compete with in CM. At RB he simply has to better Danny Simpson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Fucking loved that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 WOW, what a game...or should say 2nd half. So many things so reflect on. Must admit i was quiet happy when i saw our lineup/formation. Happy to see marveaux...mostly because i haven't seen him much and he looks like the type of player i like. But he was very disappointing....like all the others and he had a hard time against Baines....who is really playing well imo. Hope to see marveaux given another chance in Euro. Pardew made the changes i personally asked/hoped for at half time...which was good. Unfortuneatly I'm not always that keen on the 4-4-2 but it worked yesterday. 1 thing that we learned imo is that cabaye is probably best playing deeper...he gets the ball more so he gets to make more good passes....he can dictates the game better when he has the game in front of him. He is also good at winning the ball....so maybe we should play him deeper. still i hope to see a 4-3-3 with cabaye, anita and tiote in cm....where cabaye would play "in front of" the 2 others. harper was ok....still prefer him to Elliot. Only seen Elliot once or twice...he was horrible. Think harper and he experience is still to be chosen...also think our defenders would prefer that. Cisse wasn´t that bad....he had a hard time fighting distin alone for the long balls. Ba was awesome which is nice to see....imagine when they start scoring at the same time.....has it happened yet? Sholas chest pass 3 metres in the air was out of this world. Really happy about his role as supersub and his professionalism....keep it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Such an enjoyable game. On a train to Brum still thinking about it. Thought our away support was fantastic - heard them throughout, even when we were being pummeled! Also Papisto really should have buried his two chances now I think about it - the second one especially. Unnecessary dinked lob after a well-timed run - just get your foot over it, and it's a goal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The reason Cisse did not have a great first half was not all his own doing. Played the line alone, trying to latch onto hopeless long balls. He needed support against 2 good solid defenders. Pardew rightly said we were rubbish in the first half but I think he has to accept responsibility for that. Tactics were not good at all, team looked unbalanced and to give him some credit I guess, the players really did not respond well to the formation. Take nothing away from Everton - they were pretty impressive in the first half, Baines in partlicular. Hopefully a lesson or two learnt tonight and the morale off the back of this result, might just kick start our season. We really should be going all out for 6 points in the next two league games and you could then argue, that the dropped two points against Villa aside, we are where we thought we would have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Le Tiss revels in our misfortune. Fat pig can't help but squeal when a goal goes in against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The 2nd half was really weird tbh, we were the better side by a distance but we rightfully should have been 2 behind. A full fit side would have won that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Best thing about last night was the spirit in my opinion. There really is a willingness to show that last season wasn't a one-off. Considering our injuries, that was a huge point. If this is what competition for places does to Demba, I'm all for it. Also, Hatem is really fighting for the cause. He's also the one trying to instigate a more passing game. You could really see his frustration when he came into that sort of libero position to pick it up because we kept lunging it forward towards the poor, isolated Cissé. Jonas was leading with example second half, I think him, Demba and Santon were our stand out performers. Santon completley shut his wing down and was good going forward, again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 How many times do you see in tennis a ball that clearly looks out to the naked eye, including on super slow motion close up, but is actually in because the slightest sliver of ball is on the line? Unless you can see daylight/grass, there's no definite conclusion, and it was never a free kick, and our attack was pulled back. The offside they can have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 That 2nd half was seriously unexpected like. Pardew earned his wages there, even if we'd lost. That 1st half was embarassing. On the other hand poor first half performances are becoming a worrying trend that needs to be sorted out and fast. Do you think it backs up the theory that Pardew is a reactive manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 How many times do you see in tennis a ball that clearly looks out to the naked eye, including on super slow motion close up, but is actually in because the slightest sliver of ball is on the line? Unless you can see daylight/grass, there's no definite conclusion, and it was never a free kick, and our attack was pulled back. The offside they can have. As contraversial "over the line" decisions go, it was as marginal as it can get. The ball was never clearly over the line and even after multi TV camera angles it didn't look that conclusive. Maybe a goal but very understandable that it wasn't given. As you say the two worst decisions of the night were giving the free kick that led to the goal in the first place and stopping our attack in full flow as they were clear as daylight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I thought it looked clearly over the line tbh, no ifs or buts. Even looked like daylight between it when I seen the replay in the pub, think I need to see it again then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Shame about those blunders because they took away from what was a class game. Credit is due for your 2nd half performance (Pardew obviously gave them an almighty bollocking, and rightly so) and a draw wasn't really an unfair result in terms of the balance of play and chances overall. From our POV, if we play like that for the rest of the season we will be sitting very pretty come May. Not sure why people are kidding themselves though about the Anichebe goal, it was a clear goal. I'm happy to be proved wrong but iirc it was clearly over. You certainly wouldn't be labelling it as "marginal" if the boot was on the other foot. The referee was also completely wrong about pulling the play back 10 seconds later - but the fact is that should never have come about as the goal should have been given. Just furthers the case for technology asap. The Fellaini goal was, obviously, a goal. Hibbert and Neville are like those 2 kids who were always picked last when choosing teams for footy in school. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Or the Anichebe decision should never of come about as it wasn't a free kick in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Shame about those blunders because they took away from what was a class game. Credit is due for your 2nd half performance (Pardew obviously gave them an almighty bollocking, and rightly so) and a draw wasn't really an unfair result in terms of the balance of play and chances overall. From our POV, if we play like that for the rest of the season we will be sitting very pretty come May. Not sure why people are kidding themselves though about the Anichebe goal, it was a clear goal. I'm happy to be proved wrong but iirc it was clearly over. You certainly wouldn't be labelling it as "marginal" if the boot was on the other foot. The referee was also completely wrong about pulling the play back 10 seconds later - but the fact is that should never have come about as the goal should have been given. Just furthers the case for technology asap. The Fellaini goal was, obviously, a goal. Hibbert and Neville are like those 2 kids who were always picked last when choosing teams for footy in school. No arguments from me on either. Moyes was right though, those poor decisions aside - you should have been well and truly out of sight by half-time. Would be pretty furious if I was an Everton fan. Capitalising on good performances/injury-free periods with points is imperative to a decent season IMO. You also would do well to get points when you're not in such good shape - like we currently are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Or the Anichebe decision should never of come about as it wasn't a free kick in the first place. Thought it was a soft free kick, like a few of them were. Thought the ref generally had a stinker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SweMatt Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Tactics before the game was a disaster. Playing 4-5-1 with a lone striker is never going to suit players like Cabaye, Jonas and HBA in midfield (they all enjoy more space to operate in), and it leaves Papiss without backup. After 30 mins I was shouting that he should revert to 4-4-2 and put Ba in, and I'm very happy he did so at HT. Second half was very good. Anita impressed as a RB and playing two forwards immediately gave us some weight in attack. I do think that Krul would have saved at least one of the shots they scored with (he has great reflexes with his feet, something that Harps sadly is missing). Very entertaining second half, great point for us and if we beat Norwich on Sunday we've had a great start of the season despite not playing very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Shame about those blunders because they took away from what was a class game. Credit is due for your 2nd half performance (Pardew obviously gave them an almighty bollocking, and rightly so) and a draw wasn't really an unfair result in terms of the balance of play and chances overall. From our POV, if we play like that for the rest of the season we will be sitting very pretty come May. Not sure why people are kidding themselves though about the Anichebe goal, it was a clear goal. I'm happy to be proved wrong but iirc it was clearly over. You certainly wouldn't be labelling it as "marginal" if the boot was on the other foot. The referee was also completely wrong about pulling the play back 10 seconds later - but the fact is that should never have come about as the goal should have been given. Just furthers the case for technology asap. The Fellaini goal was, obviously, a goal. Hibbert and Neville are like those 2 kids who were always picked last when choosing teams for footy in school. No arguments from me on either. Moyes was right though, those poor decisions aside - you should have been well and truly out of sight by half-time. Would be pretty furious if I was an Everton fan. Capitalising on good performances/injury-free periods with points is imperative to a decent season IMO. You also would do well to get points when you're not in such good shape - like we currently are Pienaar's chance at the end of the first half sticks out. Just could see a comeback coming. Him missing that, Jelavic getting injured, an inevitable bollocking from Pardew. We're not a clinical side at all so a comeback wasn't unexpected. Reckon you'll look back on this point as huge come the end of the season. 5 points from 4 games including Spurs, Chelsea and Everton, the latter 2 being away, is hardly that bad a return, especially when playing poorly. Can see nothing other than a dry humping of Norwich at the weekend. Likewise, if we can beat Swansea I think we're going to have a class season. Can't feel sorry for ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 It was definitely a goal, but you can understand how the linesman could be hesitant to give it. It's probably impossible to see with the naked eye and from an official's perspective, it's a lot easier to rule it out if it seems marginal than it is to run the risk of giving away a phantom goal. Just highlights how insane it is that we don't have goal-line technology yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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