Guest icemanblue Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Your. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Course it's worth mentioning. If you're #10 can't find his man, your team will struggle to create. His passing was the worst in our side. People liek to say I am biased so i'm bringing facts. 1 GAME WHERE EVERY SINGLE ATTACKING PLAYER WAS BELOW HIS USUAL STANDARD. Lets not act like his passing has been poor since he joined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Some of his through balls and passing before the Stoke game have been brilliant, probably only Cabaye, HBA and possibly Marv in the team capable of picking them out on a reasonably regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 that count as another assist - being fouled for the freekick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 that count as another assist - being fouled for the freekick? The premier league official account said it did don't agree with it myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 He has 2 assists in 6 games. Toure & Wilshire both have 3 assists in 24 & 18 games respectively. If we're going to be thick and base things PURELY ON FACTS his current passing game has him assisting a goal 1 in every 3 games. Juan Mata assists 1 in every 2.9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 that count as another assist - being fouled for the freekick? The premier league official account said it did don't agree with it myself ah come on, you meanie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 that count as another assist - being fouled for the freekick? The premier league official account said it did don't agree with it myself ah come on, you meanie just the way i am i suppose i don't agree with people who say winning a penalty is an assist either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I can only comment on what I have witnessed, but Sissoko's priority is to play direct into goalscoring areas with ball retention only an option if there isn't a player in such an area. Most of his attempted passes have a low likelihood of success. Stats can certainly mislead without the contextual information. There were several games last season when Tiote racked up 50/60+ passes with a near 100% pass completion rate. The vast majority of those passes were short distance and low risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Course it's worth mentioning. If you're #10 can't find his man, your team will struggle to create. His passing was the worst in our side. People liek to say I am biased so i'm bringing facts. Your. Not you're. Just because he's playing behind the striker doesn't make him a rigid number 10. If Sissoko was getting the ball and constantly looking to play Cisse in or if he was just passing, then I'd be more concerned that his game was so one dimensional than I would be if he misplaced a lot of them. Sissoko is obviously a much more well-rounded player than that and it's plain to see. I don't see why it's necessary to nitpick on the one area of his game that isn't perfect, when he also plays some excellent, attacking passes and glides past the opposition for fun. It's just your usual oh contrare bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 He has 2 assists in 6 games. Toure & Wilshire both have 3 assists in 24 & 18 games respectively. If we're going to be thick and base things PURELY ON FACTS his current passing game has him assisting a goal 1 in every 3 games. Juan Mata assists 1 in every 2.9. Correction, 3 assists in 6 games. 1 assist in every 2 games Which, of course, is misleading Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 aye. I was going to edit that in after reading Mole & Huss' comments but was unsure how the other players would be effected, I got it from that WhoScored site which TheCollegeDropout uses religiously as fuel for his incoherent arguments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 He has 2 assists in 6 games. Toure & Wilshire both have 3 assists in 24 & 18 games respectively. If we're going to be thick and base things PURELY ON FACTS his current passing game has him assisting a goal 1 in every 3 games. Juan Mata assists 1 in every 2.9. Correction, 3 assists in 6 games. 1 assist in every 2 games Which, of course, is misleading Technically 4 if you count the assist for the Cisse goal that was wrongly ruled offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Well it's not technically then if it wasn't a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Comparing a young man who just arrived in English football to the likes of Mata, Toure, and Wilshire who have played here for many years is mind boggling. Also lets not forget Moussa has completely transformed the way we attack and has more or less been the biggest catalyst for our uptick in results since January. He's been outstanding for us when even he is below his standard (and I've had no problems with him at all since he's joined either) These type of posts in nearly every thread, nearly every morning I wake up are becoming so predictable now. It's getting fucking old man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Wouldn't have a problem with the comparison if the sample size for Sissoko's performance wasn't a mere 6 EPL games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I was frustrated by a couple of his passes against Stoke, but I think generally his passing has been fine. Especially considering the other stuff he has brought to our attacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I'm just saying, in that one game, Siss passing was poor. Sometimes, he should be more patient. No more, no less. I know we wear black & white but you can criticise a performance whilst still being happy with the player. Am I allowed to criticise the one performance? I say something true and factual. I then get told it's fine that he lost the ball so much because he's trying to create and that I must want him to pass like Jonas. I mention, other players' who create loads for their sides have much higher pass completion than what Siss showed against Stoke and now i'm being unfair! A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think it's probably because you consistently criticise good players for little to no reason, and are incredibly irritating at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Pretty much what Jim said, it's half the fallout from being a contrary WUM. However it would be daft for Sissoko to "slow down" when it's his pace, power and directness that has been effective for us, and what won us the freekick for the equaliser. If he slows down and tries to play the game like Mata he'll probably look useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Sissoko plays like someone is holding his RT button down, all the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Fuck me, in this thread now too? How unutterably tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think it's probably because you consistently criticise good players for little to no reason, and are incredibly irritating at the same time. Pretty much this. He had an off game like most of the team v Stoke and taking into consideration how good he's been since he's arrived you make it sound like there are gaping holes in his play. He had some storming runs on Sunday and sure some f the passes went array but howay man put it in context, he's been a revelation since he arrived Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 However it would be daft for Sissoko to "slow down" when it's his pace, power and directness that has been effective for us, and what won us the freekick for the equaliser. If he slows down and tries to play the game like Mata he'll probably look useless. They where a few times in the last game, he skipped past two, looked up and should've played it simple. You know, knowing when to go for the jugular. i don't constantly criticise good players for no reason. I criticise our under-performers the most because they deserve it. Colo & Cisse have been under-par for most of the season. Rarely say anything negative about Krul or Cabaye because they haven't deserved it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 If I say something negative about a player it's like i've insulted your mothers ffs. Sometimes he should slow it down is all i'm saying. He can do that from time to time when the situation calls for it you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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