Kanj Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's always capable of being a CM with the right CM partner / holder next to him. But it requires him to actually put in a shift on both ends of the pitch - which he's capable of but unwilling to show it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The hatred for Sissoko is baffling. People also want to drop him? He's by far our most creative player and has played well the past 2 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I think he's our most pro-active player along with Janmaat. Naturally, being that player makes you worthy of more criticism than most. Much better to be someone like Jack Colback who 'does nothing wrong' by never trying to do anything productive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 N-O logic - semi-talented players are exempt from criticism for regular lacklustre displays because Colback is in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 They're not exempt from criticism at all, the point is that they get more criticism because they try riskier things. Not on here, at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 They're not exempt from criticism at all, the point is that they get more criticism because they try riskier things. Not on here, at SJP. I think a lot of the criticism some players get is down to their personality, certainly that seems to be the case with Sissoko. I can remember it used to be like that with Dyer as well. The one fault I do see with Sissoko is that he doesn't seem to enjoy defending, but him and Wijnaldum are doing twice as much running as the other midfielders so I think they should get some credit for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's always capable of being a CM with the right CM partner / holder next to him. But it requires him to actually put in a shift on both ends of the pitch - which he's capable of but unwilling to show it is my biggest beef with Sissoko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I understand the issue with Sissoko's personality like, he seems like an arsehole, but he does get singled out more than any other for poor performances despite being one of our best players this season on the whole. I wanted him off for Thauvin yesterday like, but he still starts every game at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's always capable of being a CM with the right CM partner / holder next to him. But it requires him to actually put in a shift on both ends of the pitch - which he's capable of but unwilling to show it is my biggest beef with Sissoko. Yup, he switches off, lazy and weak tackles etc. But on the flip side when he's in his beast mode matches, he's out there muscling and standing people up and getting his body in front of his opponent and then he's nearly impossible to beat. This guy has one of the best shoulder barges I've seen in some time (was it Ridgewell?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's always capable of being a CM with the right CM partner / holder next to him. But it requires him to actually put in a shift on both ends of the pitch - which he's capable of but unwilling to show it is my biggest beef with Sissoko. Yup, he switches off, lazy and weak tackles etc. But on the flip side when he's in his beast mode matches, he's out there muscling and standing people up and getting his body in front of his opponent and then he's nearly impossible to beat. This guy has one of the best shoulder barges I've seen in some time (was it Ridgewell?) Think it might have been against Liverpool where he tracked his man to the RB area and made what was probably his first sliding tackle of the season. He won the ball and knocked it out for a throw. He then turned back to his defence with a look on his face as if to say "was that alright lads?" Beast Mode Sissoko is a joy to behold. Fanny Mode Sissoko is just a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's always capable of being a CM with the right CM partner / holder next to him. But it requires him to actually put in a shift on both ends of the pitch - which he's capable of but unwilling to show it is my biggest beef with Sissoko. Yup, he switches off, lazy and weak tackles etc. But on the flip side when he's in his beast mode matches, he's out there muscling and standing people up and getting his body in front of his opponent and then he's nearly impossible to beat. This guy has one of the best shoulder barges I've seen in some time (was it Ridgewell?) Think it might have been against Liverpool where he tracked his man to the RB area and made what was probably his first sliding tackle of the season. He won the ball and knocked it out for a throw. He then turned back to his defence with a look on his face as if to say "was that alright lads?" :lol Beast Mode Sissoko is a joy to behold. Fanny Mode Sissoko is just a waste of time. Fanny mode - that would be that time he went for a slide tackle and the winger just continued on with his run and crossed it. Was the weakest thing I've ever seen. Beast mode - Sissoko dropping Ivanovic with a shoulder, throwing Moreno around like a doll last week... What a frustrating fucker, when he's in pure beast - you're right, it's fucking glorious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 They're both the same Sissoko though really, it's going to be very difficult for him to learn to concentrate and be the best version for a full game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Just be a little less shit in defense and I'm much happier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 They're both the same Sissoko though really, it's going to be very difficult for him to learn to concentrate and be the best version for a full game. It only takes a moment to change your mind profoundly forever about some things in life. It could take a few words from SMC, Steve Black, maybe Deschamps, maybe a teammate, and he would become a much better player for it. I'm hoping he's still here when it does eventually click because we'd have a much improved Sissoko on our books (for a short while at least). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Wijnaldum is so much worse than Sissoko when it comes to defending, yet doesn't get anywhere near the same criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Wijnaldum is so much worse than Sissoko when it comes to defending, yet doesn't get anywhere near the same criticism. I think that's because Sissoko is such a big powerful footballer he'd be really good at defending if he did it with full commitment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He was better this week, but his laziness in defence causes chances at times thats why he gets slack. Rose should have scored yesterday & missed a clear chance. Thats why he stands out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 People talk of his personality but have never even heard him talk. We often hear quotes about playing for CL teams but that's it. It's hardly a reason to talk about his personality, all we have his translated quotes. Doesn't seem to cause any problems off the pitch. He doesn't seem the most committed to the club but he was brought here to use it as a stepping stone and puts in a shift. He's an attacking player. Because of his size, strength (and maybe ethnicity) people think he can be a proper CM and get stuck in. But he's never showed any aptitude for that side of the game. He's awful in the air, can close down okay but he always been a fanny in the tackle. Sure the defensive side of the game looks a chore to him but... he's an attacking player, that's often the case he still puts in a half decent shift most games . He's never lazy in attack and is always trying to run at the opposition, beat a player and create.... like an attacking player should. He's no more lazy in defence than Wij or HBA and works as hard if not harder in attack. The lazy stuff isn't true. Wijnaldum is so much worse than Sissoko when it comes to defending, yet doesn't get anywhere near the same criticism. I think that's because Sissoko is such a big powerful footballer he'd be really good at defending if he did it with full commitment. It's not his game. Being big and strong doesn't make you defensively and positionally aware or capable. He's shown no aptitude for tackling or smelling danger. He's good at sniffing interceptions if the counter is on but real defensive interceptions? Not at all. Strong, big and quick is great if you can tackle, anticipate danger, defensively aware but useless when you don't. Bale is stronger, bigger and quicker than Mascherano or Makelele, doesn't mean he should make a world class CM. Wijnaldum is bigger and more powerful than both of our CM's. That whole argument is weak. It's blind favouritism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Apologies if this was posted already: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/moussa-sissoko-plays-well-newcastle-10597792 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Apologies if this was posted already: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/moussa-sissoko-plays-well-newcastle-10597792 Good article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You can apply that to a lot of the players tbh, way too many of them are far too inconsistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You can apply that to a lot of the players tbh, way too many of them are far too inconsistent. Aye but when Sissoko plays well the rest of the team tends to play well as when he sprints into space it allows players like Wijnaldum to get into the box, gives Perez extra space as they go to close down Sissoko. How many of Wijnaldum's goals have heavily involved Sissoko? Almost all of them I would've thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Sissoko played a box-to-box role in France and worked both sides of the pitch, he's become incredibly lazy in that department when he moved here and I assume much of it had to do with Pardew playing him as a #10 / Second Striker. In France he played next to / in front of Capoue who's big, strong, and quick - was able to do much of the dirty work and distribute the ball. Anyway, Sissoko is incredibly vital to our team, I've no doubt about it. I love him when he's in full sprint, pure-on beast mode - nearly unplayable when he's like that. My issue with him is his mental switch-offs on the defensive side ie: the aformentioned Rose chance. Wijnadlum and Perez have done a far better job tracking their men than Moussa has all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He needs to know that he's not undropable, maybe he would stop looking half arsed for the first 60 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's always capable of being a CM with the right CM partner / holder next to him. But it requires him to actually put in a shift on both ends of the pitch - which he's capable of but unwilling to show it is my biggest beef with Sissoko. Yup, he switches off, lazy and weak tackles etc. But on the flip side when he's in his beast mode matches, he's out there muscling and standing people up and getting his body in front of his opponent and then he's nearly impossible to beat. This guy has one of the best shoulder barges I've seen in some time (was it Ridgewell?) Think it might have been against Liverpool where he tracked his man to the RB area and made what was probably his first sliding tackle of the season. He won the ball and knocked it out for a throw. He then turned back to his defence with a look on his face as if to say "was that alright lads?" :lol Beast Mode Sissoko is a joy to behold. Fanny Mode Sissoko is just a waste of time. Fanny mode - that would be that time he went for a slide tackle and the winger just continued on with his run and crossed it. Was the weakest thing I've ever seen. Beast mode - Sissoko dropping Ivanovic with a shoulder, throwing Moreno around like a doll last week... What a frustrating f***er, when he's in pure beast - you're right, it's f***ing glorious. Is he a man or a Moussa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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