mrmojorisin75 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hoping a mass protest on Saturday might wake Ashley up a bit, especially as these fuckers have hijacked his company logo as well, can't see him liking that one bit. Hopefully he gets a decent replacement to save himself 2 more years of shite and hassle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The hijacking of his logo will not bother Ashley one bit he will probably be perversely pleased that fans are holding his colours up, the fact that pardew will be genuinely humiliated in front of millions of people is what Ashley should feel bad about but his company will again get publicity at the expense of a knackered dog that should have been put down ages ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I'm not so sure personally, in itself it might not bother him but it does hint that people might start bringing his business into nufc matters and he won't want a massive negative association. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Not Bruce anyway. Like for like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Not Bruce anyway. Like for like. It was like watching a game led by managers of two lower division sides. Both sides were utter rubbish and if either finish in the top 10 I'd be amazed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 There are so many managers that are con men in England. They literally just get their chairman to spend much more than needed, so that when enough has been thrown at the wall something sticks. When you think of the team Pardew nearly got relegated, which actually had Ba for half a season, Cabaye and Ben Arfa. We were awful all season, even before the Europa started. Giving some of these second rate charlatans top players is like giving a rubbish celebrity on British Bake Off top ingredients. If they can't bake then they're going to end up with some sagging monstrosity of a cake no matter how good the ingredients are. Compare that to a real Baker and you could give him 50p worth of ingredients from Aldi and he'll still make you something tasty. Unfortunately we're the sagging monstrosity of a cake version. You can just see Pardew is that guy who has no clue, but can blag it. He's good at talking himself up to his mate Ashley but never delivers anything of any worth. Compare that to someone who I don't even like as a Manager, Tony Pulis and the difference is vast. He took a Palace team that looked awful relegation material and nearly got them in the top 10 at our expense last season. He looks at what he's got and finds a way to use it, analysing the strengths and weaknesses of the team. Pardew still thinks Newcastle should be defensive despite us having no ability in that area. It's literally maddening. We actually give managers too much time in England. This kind of thing just isn't accepted in Spain and Italy. Once they judge a manager incompetent they're out the door and rightly so. Doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results is the definition of insanity. That perfectly describes Pardew and Newcastle. We're persisting with the same thing over and over and the result will be more heavy losses. That's why at this point the anyone but Pardew option is looking better and better to me. We currently look like we'll never win a game again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Not Bruce anyway. Like for like. Bruce is about the best we could hope for, Ashley does not pay enough for anyone decent. Plus would anyone decent really want to work under Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 We actually give managers too much time in England. This kind of thing just isn't accepted in Spain and Italy. Once they judge a manager incompetent they're out the door and rightly so. To be honest our clubs are often criticized for being too quick to fire managers, particularly when compared to England. Fair assessment of Pardew, though. To me, the biggest indictment you can lash at him is how your team is much less than the sum of its parts. That's the most basic thing to ask from a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Moyes wants the job according to tomorrow's mirror. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 We can only dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Not Bruce anyway. Like for like. Bruce is about the best we could hope for, Ashley does not pay enough for anyone decent. Plus would anyone decent really want to work under Ashley? So much wrong with this post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Yup, pretty much any attainable manager would be affordable. For reference - http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/86035/carlo-ancelotti-named-highest-paid-coach-in-la-liga/ Plus as I've said before NUFC (politics aside) is a no lose job currently. Do well - everyone loves you, Do shit - Ashley is the overarching problem, you leave reputation intact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Yup, pretty much any attainable manager would be affordable. For reference - http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/86035/carlo-ancelotti-named-highest-paid-coach-in-la-liga/ Plus as I've said before NUFC (politics aside) is a no lose job currently. Do well - everyone loves you, Do shit - Ashley is the overarching problem, you leave reputation intact. Yep, and many European coaches are used to somebody else being in charge of recruitment. It's less than two years ago that Arsene Wenger was claiming it was unfair that Newcastle had signed so many great players in the transfer window because some teams had already played our shite twice. It's unbelievable how much one man's incompetence has persuaded so many people that we've actually signed a load of rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Great players? Steady on, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Yup, pretty much any attainable manager would be affordable. For reference - http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/86035/carlo-ancelotti-named-highest-paid-coach-in-la-liga/ Plus as I've said before NUFC (politics aside) is a no lose job currently. Do well - everyone loves you, Do shit - Ashley is the overarching problem, you leave reputation intact. Yep, and many European coaches are used to somebody else being in charge of recruitment. It's less than two years ago that Arsene Wenger was claiming it was unfair that Newcastle had signed so many great players in the transfer window because some teams had already played our shite twice. It's unbelievable how much one man's incompetence has persuaded so many people that we've actually signed a load of rubbish. added to that it doesn't take much managerial nous to get a team organised, solid and therefore slightly competitive. Unfortunately for us the patsy in the dugout is so clueless he spends 100% of his time trying to do this without success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Not Bruce anyway. Like for like. Bruce is about the best we could hope for, Ashley does not pay enough for anyone decent. Plus would anyone decent really want to work under Ashley? Remember some pundit saying that Koeman should step down before the season due to all the players being sold off. He was claiming he would have stood down himself, and no one would want the job. People with real ability, who actually know what they're doing would jump at the chnace to manage this club, and the players we have. Best believe it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I hope that Carr gets the chance to have a big influence on Ashley and which manager we should go for. I just want bloody f***ing good football again at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 What does Graham Carr know about the necessities for a suitable PL manager? He was an utterly shit fourth division one himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I trust him more than Ashley! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I hate some of the fans who are saying Moyes is too defensive. Go and watch circus. How long will it take for people to realize the KK era long gone and it will never never come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I hate some of the fans who are saying Moyes is too defensive. Go and watch circus. How long will it take for people to realize the KK era long gone and it will never never come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 John Toshack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Paco Jemez Another convert! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 John Toshack. you are joking right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I really want him to manage a team that actually has a pot to p*ss on. At the very least he has the kind of philosophy and personality that would endear people to the club again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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