Florian Thauvin

[Dokko]

absolute spineless cunt.

[triggs]

Couldn't really give a shit if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway.

 

We should have just kept Ben Arfa. Fucking tossers.

to all of that

[Ally]

Couldn't really give a shit if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway.

 

We should have just kept Ben Arfa. Fucking tossers.

 

Agree. Although we've got to remember the players do train every day. Fans might scream give him a chance, but if he's absolute shite in training he's never going to get in. Manager's credibility with the players would go down the pan if the lad that tarts around all week gets a game regardless

[Mattoon]

In HBA we had a player that could tear up the league, he was alienated and scapegoated by old fish lips and we'll never replace him. Unless we persevere with a player like Thauvin, who has potential, we're going to keep losing money like this because sure as hell we're not going to fork out the kind of money it'll cost to replace him. One thing's for sure, Townsend is not the answer.

[mrmojorisin75]

One thing's for sure, Townsend is not the answer.

[Dave]

Couldn't really give a shit if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway.

 

We should have just kept Ben Arfa. Fucking tossers.

 

Agree. Although we've got to remember the players do train every day. Fans might scream give him a chance, but if he's absolute shite in training he's never going to get in. Manager's credibility with the players would go down the pan if the lad that tarts around all week gets a game regardless

 

 

Aside from the Obertan>Perez debacle like.

[Foluwashola]

Couldn't really give a shit if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway.

 

We should have just kept Ben Arfa. Fucking tossers.

 

[jdckelly]

Couldn't really give a shit if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway.

 

We should have just kept Ben Arfa. Fucking tossers.

 

Agree. Although we've got to remember the players do train every day. Fans might scream give him a chance, but if he's absolute shite in training he's never going to get in. Manager's credibility with the players would go down the pan if the lad that tarts around all week gets a game regardless

 

 

Aside from the Obertan>Perez debacle like.

hey for all we know Obertan could be like Messi in training

[TRon]

Couldn't really give a shit if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway.

 

We should have just kept Ben Arfa. Fucking tossers.

 

Agree. Although we've got to remember the players do train every day. Fans might scream give him a chance, but if he's absolute shite in training he's never going to get in. Manager's credibility with the players would go down the pan if the lad that tarts around all week gets a game regardless

 

 

Aside from the Obertan>Perez debacle like.

 

Ouch!

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

I'd like to think after a bit of criticism from a few hundred fans, he'd want to prove them wrong and knuckle down rather than sulk and try to find a way out.

[toontownman]

Tbh I think I saw more potential from Cabella. Thauvin looks a bit more suited physically but has really shown nothing to get me excited. Neither, skills combined, hold a candle to Hatem. Still cannot believe we got rid.

 

Thauvin has shown the skills in France, but is clearly a confidence player and that won't be improved without a decent chance and run in the team. There is always a fair amount of fans hoping he will come good in time, which he might. It is certainly not the first time it has taken a foreigner to settle in a new league. Ultimately pride is one thing that also makes people want to keep him. If we get rid its just another transfer that makes us look like complete mugs. Again not convinced Townsend is the answer like many but would certainly offer more from what Thauvin has shown.

[Marmoset]

Ahh the old meritocracy of mediocrity. I'd rather a manager who could select a team to win games, training for trainings sake is utterly pointless.

 

If you're a proven star then yeah, you can get more leeway in training, but if you're fighting for a place in the side and you aren't busting a gut in training then you can't really expect to be thrown into a game, especially when every game is very important for us now, just to see what happens.

 

 

That being said, we haven't got the slightest clue what he's like in training anyway could be Messi could be Obertan.

 

Just think unless it's an obvious case (Gouff over HBA) you've got to give the manager the benefit of the doubt sometimes with player selection.

[Hanshithispantz]

http://i.imgur.com/fKStO3j.png

 

Didn't even realise it was that bad.

 

4 games over 60 minutes in a new league for a 22 year old. Manager has his mind made up. This whole situation is an absolute farce.

[Shayno]

It really just hammers home the point that the manager, scouting system and the entire football department has to be on the same page. Something we haven't had a long while and has resulted in us continually signing players who aren't suited to the way the manager wants plays football. So amateurish and bloody annoying.

 

Thauvin is only 22, Cabella had only just established himself as a first choice player for Montpellier at that age (and very quickly became one of its better players). We aren't sure what Thauvin is capable of, but I fear a pretty mediocre spell at Marseille is a far better indicator of his quality than the scraps of playing time he has had to feed on here.

 

 

[Menace]

Want him to stay. Fuck Townsend.

[mrmojorisin75]

 

 

Just think unless it's an obvious case (Gouff over HBA) you've got to give the manager the benefit of the doubt sometimes with player selection.

 

I don't think McClaren has done anything to deserve the benefit of the doubt in this area, quite the opposite actually.

 

[loki679]

I think he could come good but he needs time and a run of games.  We could line up like this and have some actual natural width which I think would help his game tremendously.

 

                          Elliott

 

Janmaat    Mbemba    Colo    Mbabu

 

                                Saivet

 

                  Shelvey

 

  Sissoko          Wijnaldum        Thauvin

 

                          Mitrovic

 

Shelvey going box to box.  Mbabu and Janmaat overlapping on the attack to give us options both outside and inside the full backs and supplying the crosses for Mitrovic.  Similar to Mitrovic I think we could see a player in Thauvin if we set the team up correctly to play somewhat to his strengths and afford him some space and passing options.

[Teasy]

Couldn't really give a shit if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway.

 

We should have just kept Ben Arfa. Fucking tossers.

 

Agree. Although we've got to remember the players do train every day. Fans might scream give him a chance, but if he's absolute shite in training he's never going to get in. Manager's credibility with the players would go down the pan if the lad that tarts around all week gets a game regardless

 

I bet Shola was amazing in training..  Ben Arfa was probably shite though.

[Marmoset]

Couldn't really give a s*** if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway.

 

We should have just kept Ben Arfa. f***ing tossers.

 

Agree. Although we've got to remember the players do train every day. Fans might scream give him a chance, but if he's absolute s**** in training he's never going to get in. Manager's credibility with the players would go down the pan if the lad that tarts around all week gets a game regardless

 

I bet Shola was amazing in training.. Ben Arfa was probably s**** though.

 

Yeah but it's one thing being crap in training if you can point to all the goals and assists you've provided, it's another if you're new and struggling for game time.

 

Anyway again we've no earthly idea how he is in training, good or bad, would never happen obviously but I wish they televised training matches so we could actually see for ourselves what the manager sees.

[matta]

Potential to be our biggest flop? Get rid.

If he stays he has to be given a proper chance.

[HawK]

I think he could come good but he needs time and a run of games.  We could line up like this and have some actual natural width which I think would help his game tremendously.

 

                          Elliott

 

Janmaat    Mbemba    Colo    Mbabu

 

                                Saivet

 

                  Shelvey

 

  Sissoko          Wijnaldum        Thauvin

 

                          Mitrovic

 

Shelvey going box to box.  Mbabu and Janmaat overlapping on the attack to give us options both outside and inside the full backs and supplying the crosses for Mitrovic.  Similar to Mitrovic I think we could see a player in Thauvin if we set the team up correctly to play somewhat to his strengths and afford him some space and passing options.

 

However relieving it is not to see Colback and Anita together in the middle, I couldn't pick Thauvin over Perez, despite Perez's recent drop off in form. Apart from vs a League One team he's shown nothing since he's joined us, whereas Perez has won games on his own on occasion in the PL.

[Shush]

If we are not prepared to give a young talented player time to adapt and games to used to the league we should stay out of that market. Why spunk £30m on Cabella and Thauvin when that could have bought someone who already had the relevant experience and proven talent. Even better, don't kick talent like Ben Arfa out the door to start with.

 

I really hope Carr's stock has fallen with this mess of a transfer system we have.

[loki679]

I think he could come good but he needs time and a run of games.  We could line up like this and have some actual natural width which I think would help his game tremendously.

 

                          Elliott

 

Janmaat    Mbemba    Colo    Mbabu

 

                                Saivet

 

                  Shelvey

 

  Sissoko          Wijnaldum        Thauvin

 

                          Mitrovic

 

Shelvey going box to box.  Mbabu and Janmaat overlapping on the attack to give us options both outside and inside the full backs and supplying the crosses for Mitrovic.  Similar to Mitrovic I think we could see a player in Thauvin if we set the team up correctly to play somewhat to his strengths and afford him some space and passing options.

 

However relieving it is not to see Colback and Anita together in the middle, I couldn't pick Thauvin over Perez, despite Perez's recent drop off in form. Apart from vs a League One team he's shown nothing since he's joined us, whereas Perez has won games on his own on occasion in the PL.

 

Well he needs games and he'll give us some width.  Perez isn't a winger and with him on one side and Sissoko on the other we'll naturally play narrower which won't help Mitrovics game.  Plus the fact that if we don't give Thauvin games and time then he'll never show anything for us, at least give the guya chance and a decent run in the side.

[The College Dropout]

I'd like to think after a bit of criticism from a few hundred fans, he'd want to prove them wrong and knuckle down rather than sulk and try to find a way out.

 

No heart. Didn't want to be here. And from what i've seen - lacks quality anyway.

[sempuki]

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