themanupstairs Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 He talks up winning against sides, he gets called a delusional c***. He plays down chances of winning, he gets slated for losing the game before a ball is kicked. The thing is, if he used this as some kind of tactical mind-game, and had relative success with it, no one would take him up on it. He just waffles on aimlessly trotting out excuse after excuse on some days, and coming out with this stuff on others. It all just seems arbitrary and contrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Pardew didn't get us to 5th, a select few players and luckiness with injuries did. You're still defending him after Sunday you f***ing mess. A select few players and a bit of luck with injuries gets you a 5th place finish in the Premier League. Fuck off We had almost the same team in the following season and finished 16th. What got us that then? A few select players not performing and not having luck with injuries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Pardew deserves credit for his dour rigid football stifling sides tbf, it was never going to last forever and we had our fair share of luck but ultimately it was him doing things his way that got us 5th. The first dozen games or so especially before Taylor's injury we were a difficult team to beat. Not that there isn't a succession of other managers who couldn't have done the same job, if not better, with that squad considering Chelsea and Liverpool both had awful seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 He thinks the game tonight and the game against Chelsea are winnable. Delusional cunt. You couldn't even beat Sunderland. He LITERALLY cannot win. A poor trait for a football manager tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I could have accepted a minor downturn in form (say, finishing 10th), but what we watched last season was the stuff of fucking nightmares. The Southampton and Reading games aren't going to fade away any time soon (missed most of the 3-0 drubbing by Sunderland). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Pardew didn't get us to 5th, a select few players and luckiness with injuries did. You're still defending him after Sunday you f***ing mess. A select few players and a bit of luck with injuries gets you a 5th place finish in the Premier League. f*** off To be honest Brett, we made a fair few quality signings who Pardew hadn't yet had the chance to coach the quality out of. That's why I think we finished 5th. Now he's had his wicked way with them.......... well, just look at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Can't believe there has been numerous posts there and not one person mentioned the word 'confidence'. That is one of the biggest factors in football, as a team and as individuals. Played a massive part in our rise and fall! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I could have accepted a minor downturn in form (say, finishing 10th), but what we watched last season was the stuff of f***ing nightmares. The Southampton and Reading games aren't going to fade away any time soon (missed most of the 3-0 drubbing by Sunderland). The 6-0 still haunts my dreams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Can't believe there has been numerous posts there and not one person mentioned the word 'confidence'. That is one of the biggest factors in football, as a team and as individuals. Played a massive part in our rise and fall! Ok then, whose job is it to inspire confidence in the team? How did we lose all of the momentum and confidence that came from finishing 5th? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Not that there isn't a succession of other managers who couldn't have done the same job, if not better, with that squad considering Chelsea and Liverpool both had awful seasons. Don't think that's the case tbh. For whatever reason pretty much everything that season clicked. The manager, tactics, players over-performing, and obviously a fair share of luck. Clearly the past 18 months mean Pardew could have no complaints if he was given the boot tonight, but that season was probably the maximum potential of that squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 results-wise, % WLD where is he overall now? sure this has been posted but haven't seen it for a while Premier League only.... http://i39.tinypic.com/15nwqcg.jpg Considering what he took over and what he's done with it he's easily the worst on that list. What a c***. Dalglish and Souness are worse, both took over after very successful periods and screwed up completely not sure i agree in some respects both managers you mention were tasked with changing a perceived failure in the methods of their predecessors (our 2 most successful managers of the era btw) and both failed at that...same for gullit tbh although KD wasn't successful gullit was expected to reverse the style of play and failed to do so nah, i'm sticking with my first statement, he's the worst of the lot - the players we have now would be tearing it up with anyone else, he's a f***ing jonah man Daglish took over a side fighting for the title (including having the worlds most expensive player at the time) and when he left the club was mid table Souness took over a side competing around the european spots and left a woefully overpaid squad somewhere in lower midtable. How anyone can argue Pardew has done worse is beyond me. they f***ed up more because they were in charge of their own transfer and made an utter shitsack of it pardew has been handed good players and a squad improving in quality since the moment he arrived, he's f***ing incapable of managing it...it's contentious, i'll agree, and depends on what you value personally as to who you think has failed more - as i said imo KD and GS were both publicly tasked with righting the perceived faults of their predecessors and this was ultimately the only reason both were appointed pardew had none of this s*** going on, he took over a team on the up with few expectations, the quality of player has improved and performances have dipped with the exception of the 5th season which surely ever f***er now has to see as a total freakshow Dalglish and Souness walked into sides with much better players than any we have now and cocked up completely leaving us a pale shadow of what we were. Face it nothing Pardews done anywhere near the damage that those 2 did to nufc. Souness in particular has to be vilified he walked into a side that had finished 5th the previous season (iirc) tore it apart and after being given a fortune to spend screwed up his spending completely and his transfers at best did okay at worst were complete disasters that left us with wage wise a champions league side but nowhere near those places and it was the first step to our eventual relegation. Look, I know what you're saying and the impact Souness had, for example, was obviously devastating long term but don't forget he was brought in to do what he did, very clearly by FS. Going in circles man. They're all s****, the point I'm making is the others signed the players that sealed their fates. If Pardew was given 50m to spend on who he wanted how do you think would go from there on in? Better or worse than Souness? No, he's been handed fillet steak and has served up f***ing dog food. Since I'm of the opinion a well trained dog could have spent money better than Souness did obviously better. What we have now and what Pardew has to work with is a team built not on any kind of intelligent plan or grand footballing philosophy what we got in a side built with two objectives 1 cheap 2 sell on. And it bloody shows the side is woefully imbalanced and severely lacking in key area's. This isn't any kind of squad that should automatically be competing around the european places its a side that stinks of mid table. Pardew is the one who should be providing an intelligent plan and footballing philosophy. Everton and Southampton, both of whom have a weaker first XI than us, are currently in the top six because they have managers who are capable of providing those things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Bottled playing a full strength team, cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Dodgy team selection like, can't believe Shola has been given the nod! Take him out for Ben Arfa and the team is canny. I like Anita back in, mym was obvious and everyone rates Haidara so nice to see him again although he best be ready for Navas. There team looks far too strong however, I'll stick with my 0-3 prediction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Cisse is really struggling for goals and his confidence is on the floor. He starts him alongside a man who couldn't hit a barn door, against Man City ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Canny my fucking ass it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Canny my f***ing ass it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Just said we weren't far from our best against Sunderland. Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 How can I physically want us to win this game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 How can I physically want us to win this game? You get some shite and extremely short term bragging rights for graft/uni the morra? Yay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 How can I physically want us to win this game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 How can I physically want us to win this game? You get some shite and extremely short term bragging rights for graft/uni the morra? Yay! Fuck that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'd quite like us to reach the QFs and not provide any more depression like. Not cool enough, I realise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Hope we win this and they get two red cards early on. He'll probably give himself credit for that. You see that? Clapping the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'd quite like us to reach the QFs and not provide any more depression like. Not cool enough, I realise. Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Awesome job so far today... ...in keeping Sky on the clubs side pre match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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