Stottie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just seen this, what a pile of wank. Sweepstakes on how many minutes he'll manage all season. I go for 104 and I fear I'm aiming high there. I say 269 minutes, one fewer than a red-card suspension, which he'll probably get if the toolbox is down to argy bargy and no longer includes running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Andy Carroll was not signed as an alternative to Rondon so not sure why they're being held up against each other. Joelinton was deemed a younger version of Rondon and was therefore signed to replace him. Carroll is a freebie cheap option that wanted to come back home for low wages, and was deemed as worth bringing in, to ease Joelinton's transition to a new league, should he need some help. Don't take this badly Kaka, but if you think that's the reason Carroll was brought back, I have some Florida swampland available you might want to take a look at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Andy Carroll was not signed as an alternative to Rondon so not sure why they're being held up against each other. Joelinton was deemed a younger version of Rondon and was therefore signed to replace him. Carroll is a freebie cheap option that wanted to come back home for low wages, and was deemed as worth bringing in, to ease Joelinton's transition to a new league, should he need some help. Because when you want someone to mentor a young, foreign player who doesn't speak the language and has no support base, Andy Carroll is obviously the best man for the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Considering the clubs track record of interfering with team selections when there is a contractual issue you would have to be concerned that Bruce might get prevented from selecting him at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 The 30 year old Rondon vs 30 year Carroll deal is not apples to apples. There was still a transfer fee, agents fees, PL levies and all the other bull s*** that Charnley and MA complain about versus free transfer, no agent fee and l, minimal additional fees. Rondon wanted a normal wage and a few year contract and Carroll is on a low basic wage that is based on appearances and goals on 1 year contract. They aren't comparable. The first deal (Rondon) makes way too much sense in the footballing world and the second deal (AC) makes perfect sense in the MA tick-tack cheap as f*** world. Sad reality under our s*** owner. Rondon wanted ‘a normal wage’? There’s a reason he’s in China and not at Wolves, West Ham or Everton etc now. Those reasons are Jimenez, Haller & Kean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Andy Carroll was not signed as an alternative to Rondon so not sure why they're being held up against each other. Joelinton was deemed a younger version of Rondon and was therefore signed to replace him. Carroll is a freebie cheap option that wanted to come back home for low wages, and was deemed as worth bringing in, to ease Joelinton's transition to a new league, should he need some help. Don't take this badly Kaka, but if you think that's the reason Carroll was brought back, I have some Florida swampland available you might want to take a look at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Andy Carroll was not signed as an alternative to Rondon so not sure why they're being held up against each other. Joelinton was deemed a younger version of Rondon and was therefore signed to replace him. Carroll is a freebie cheap option that wanted to come back home for low wages, and was deemed as worth bringing in, to ease Joelinton's transition to a new league, should he need some help. Because when you want someone to mentor a young, foreign player who doesn't speak the language and has no support base, Andy Carroll is obviously the best man for the job. Not as a mentor, but as a fill in for Joelinton should he struggle for form at any point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 It’s not a bad signing in football sense. It’s the underlying implications that are unacceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 It’s not a bad signing in football sense. It’s the underlying implications that are unacceptable. It’s not a bad signing because it’s free, and therefore matters less when he’s never fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 No, he doesn’t need to be fit to make the signing works. It already works.The fat c*** is laughing. He treats the fans as idiots - and he is correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Pathetic transfer if I’m being totally honest. Given he’ll probably not be available for long periods of time, he’s essentially unemployed, prepared to take minimum (football) wage and we had zero competition for him should be massive red flags. He’s been singed for for the positive PR rather than his footballing contribution in my opinion. A cheap, tacky, obvious signing because i5 was easy to do. No thought, effort or imagination has gone into this, it just suited all parties. Doesn’t matter what’s happened to the squad, who’s left, who’s signed, how much has been spent, how much we’ve got back, it’s all moot. Because we’ve replaced Rafa Benitez with Steve fucking Bruce. That one replacement has just knocked 25 points from our total because this thick cunt is a million miles behind Rafa. His lack of ability renders every player transfer null and void, none of them matter. The most important individual at any club is the manager and we’ve gone from fillet steak to roadkill squirrel. We’ll go down and we’ll deserve to. Top post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Andy Carroll was not signed as an alternative to Rondon so not sure why they're being held up against each other. Joelinton was deemed a younger version of Rondon and was therefore signed to replace him. Carroll is a freebie cheap option that wanted to come back home for low wages, and was deemed as worth bringing in, to ease Joelinton's transition to a new league, should he need some help. Because when you want someone to mentor a young, foreign player who doesn't speak the language and has no support base, Andy Carroll is obviously the best man for the job. Not as a mentor, but as a fill in for Joelinton should he struggle for form at any point. Which would be understandable if we weren't relying on a bloke who's very rarely there to fill in as he's so often crocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Paying Andy Carroll 70k every time he plays apparently Not a chance that is true. I'd say there's a decent chance it's true. He was presumably on at least £100k a week at West Ham, the appearance would have to be large for him to contemplate a mainly pay as you play deal with a low basic and wages are generally higher for free transfers anyway The Sun saying it’s 70k everytime he plays 20k basic salary. Better get himself along to a food bank then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Pathetic transfer if I’m being totally honest. Given he’ll probably not be available for long periods of time, he’s essentially unemployed, prepared to take minimum (football) wage and we had zero competition for him should be massive red flags. He’s been singed for for the positive PR rather than his footballing contribution in my opinion. A cheap, tacky, obvious signing because i5 was easy to do. No thought, effort or imagination has gone into this, it just suited all parties. Doesn’t matter what’s happened to the squad, who’s left, who’s signed, how much has been spent, how much we’ve got back, it’s all moot. Because we’ve replaced Rafa Benitez with Steve fucking Bruce. That one replacement has just knocked 25 points from our total because this thick cunt is a million miles behind Rafa. His lack of ability renders every player transfer null and void, none of them matter. The most important individual at any club is the manager and we’ve gone from fillet steak to roadkill squirrel. We’ll go down and we’ll deserve to. Agree fully. It's like some sort of joke, with a not insignificant proportion of fans lining up to almost approve of Ashley's trolling this summer. Wouldn't keep Rafa or Rondon, but gives us Steve Bruce and Andy Carroll as a cheap joke version. Like you say, we deserve to go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Andy Carroll was not signed as an alternative to Rondon so not sure why they're being held up against each other. Joelinton was deemed a younger version of Rondon and was therefore signed to replace him. Carroll is a freebie cheap option that wanted to come back home for low wages, and was deemed as worth bringing in, to ease Joelinton's transition to a new league, should he need some help. Don't take this badly Kaka, but if you think that's the reason Carroll was brought back, I have some Florida swampland available you might want to take a look at. it's quite amusing watching him twist anything and everything into being a positive. Fucking mental, but amusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Andy Carroll was not signed as an alternative to Rondon so not sure why they're being held up against each other. Joelinton was deemed a younger version of Rondon and was therefore signed to replace him. Carroll is a freebie cheap option that wanted to come back home for low wages, and was deemed as worth bringing in, to ease Joelinton's transition to a new league, should he need some help. Don't take this badly Kaka, but if you think that's the reason Carroll was brought back, I have some Florida swampland available you might want to take a look at. it's quite amusing watching him twist anything and everything into being a positive. Fucking mental, but amusing. I’m extremely envious of him. Wish I could get into that mindset tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 https://www.transfermarkt.com/andy-carroll/verletzungen/spieler/48066 In total he has missed around 3 and a half years being injured since signing for West Ham, 7 years ago. It's also worrying that his current ankle injury seems to be a very serious one. A recurring injury, that he has struggled with since Jan 2018. Hopefully the latest surgery has been a success, otherwise I doubt we'll see him much at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 He's Duncan Ferguson basically, the parallels have been there for a long time. Class player when fit but never is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 He's Duncan Ferguson basically, the parallels have been there for a long time. Class player when fit but never is. Yeah, that’s a pretty good comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Pathetic transfer if I’m being totally honest. Given he’ll probably not be available for long periods of time, he’s essentially unemployed, prepared to take minimum (football) wage and we had zero competition for him should be massive red flags. He’s been singed for for the positive PR rather than his footballing contribution in my opinion. A cheap, tacky, obvious signing because i5 was easy to do. No thought, effort or imagination has gone into this, it just suited all parties. Doesn’t matter what’s happened to the squad, who’s left, who’s signed, how much has been spent, how much we’ve got back, it’s all moot. Because we’ve replaced Rafa Benitez with Steve fucking Bruce. That one replacement has just knocked 25 points from our total because this thick cunt is a million miles behind Rafa. His lack of ability renders every player transfer null and void, none of them matter. The most important individual at any club is the manager and we’ve gone from fillet steak to roadkill squirrel. We’ll go down and we’ll deserve to. Tremendous post. Perfectly surmised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Would honestly have rather just kept Joselu if Carroll was going to be the 3rd striker signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Not sure I agree. I mean Joselu contributed virtually nothing and that was while being managed by Rafa. Carroll is far from perfect but can at least be a nuisance when available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Would honestly have rather just kept Joselu if Carroll was going to be the 3rd striker signed. Over the last two Premier League seasons, Joselu has a goal every 383 minutes and Carroll has one every 401 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 If Newcastle were looking for a cheap option to help support Joelinton in the goals department then they should have went for Llorente on a free transfer. Instead they went for the cynical option in Carroll instead of signing a decent striker for football reasons. The club might as well have kept Joselu because at least he can stay fit. There is no point saying Carroll can do this or that if fit because its not a question if he can keep fit his body is just incapable of not being injured. I remember the same thing was said about Diaby at Arsenal, but injuries ruined his potential. Even in the unlikely scenario Carroll does stay fit he is not the same player he was 9 years ago. Its not like he was this elite player before his injury problems that can change a match with 10 mins left in a match. He was a decent player at his best, but nothing special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Would honestly have rather just kept Joselu if Carroll was going to be the 3rd striker signed. Over the last two Premier League seasons, Joselu has a goal every 383 minutes and Carroll has one every 401 minutes. Aye I'm not sure this "class player when fit" thing is really true anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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