frankpingel Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The banner makers got some grief at the ground according to ready to groom. There's certainly some division within there support on the AJ issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 It's a shit banner, but has a point. The club has a responsibility to its supporters to explain its actions. Personally think they will bury their heads in the sand and hope it all goes away once he gets sent down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 It's a shit banner, but has a point. The club has a responsibility to its supporters to explain its actions. Personally think they will bury their heads in the sand and hope it all goes away once he gets sent down. I suppose they are very eager to get the season done with and ideally guarantee survival. Only then will it be time for any moral stance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The club can't say anything until the trial is finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I was just about to add that to my post. I just don't think they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 the fans got stick for hoying a banner up, not because of the message they don't want to look like us, those classy fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 They'll stay up with performances like that and they'll do Palace on Tuesday. Their work rate was excellent yday and that will get them points against teams that are coasting at the end of the season. We simply have to beat them and I don't see us doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 They'll stay up with performances like that and they'll do Palace on Tuesday. Their work rate was excellent yday and that will get them points against teams that are coasting at the end of the season. We simply have to beat them and I don't see us doing so. Didn't see much of yesterdays game but find it unbelievable that the bookies have us at slight odds against to go down while they're as short as 1/2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Because they look better than us at the minute, we're still in this weird limbo of playing well once and then tragically the next 3 games while they look pretty solid win or lose and have the last couple of times I've watched them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 That's my point, why are they such short odds to go down and we're not. They might not be a particularly exciting or talented set of players, but they've got bottle and something approaching a backbone which is more than you could say for our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Ah right, I read the odds the wrong way around for some reason, thought they were to stay up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Quick question that popped into my head... If Johnson told Sunderland the full truth when it came out, then why has Fletcher turned his back on Johnson after the guilty verdict and refused to come to court? Surely, Johnson/Sunderland would not have lied to all of the playing staff - if they have, imagine knowing your employer lied to you for 11 months and allowed a nonce to work alongside you. If you are summoned to court, you HAVE to go. I'm just summising here, but, perhaps the prosecution think they have enough without his evidence. possibly the defense would rather not have him on the stand. For whatever reason. BTW are Fletcher and Johnson good mates ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Fletcher's a bit old for him to be fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Quick question that popped into my head... If Johnson told Sunderland the full truth when it came out, then why has Fletcher turned his back on Johnson after the guilty verdict and refused to come to court? Surely, Johnson/Sunderland would not have lied to all of the playing staff - if they have, imagine knowing your employer lied to you for 11 months and allowed a nonce to work alongside you. If you are summoned to court, you HAVE to go. I'm just summising here, but, perhaps the prosecution think they have enough without his evidence. possibly the defense would rather not have him on the stand. For whatever reason. BTW are Fletcher and Johnson good mates ? He wasn't a prosecution witness, he was a defence witness. Johnson told the court that Fletcher refused to come to court after his guilty pleas, which begs the question as to why Johnson was "so honest" with SAFC and his girlfriend - but failed to tell one of his good mates. I have no idea why he wasn't summoned to court, especially as he was a witness for Johnson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Defence could have also called on one of those "30" Sunderland players who were there when they were speaking about age of consent in different countries (yeah right ) but they didnt.. strange, that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Generally you dont want to summons witnesses who are reluctant to attend. They tend not to be terribly useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Fletcher was being called to testify on the length on Johnson's pubic hair I think. What a bizarre reason to be a witness in court :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I don't imagine Johnson is a big fans of pubes Waheeeeeeeey Fuck sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Quick question that popped into my head... If Johnson told Sunderland the full truth when it came out, then why has Fletcher turned his back on Johnson after the guilty verdict and refused to come to court? Surely, Johnson/Sunderland would not have lied to all of the playing staff - if they have, imagine knowing your employer lied to you for 11 months and allowed a nonce to work alongside you. If you are summoned to court, you HAVE to go. I'm just summising here, but, perhaps the prosecution think they have enough without his evidence. possibly the defense would rather not have him on the stand. For whatever reason. BTW are Fletcher and Johnson good mates ? He wasn't a prosecution witness, he was a defence witness. Johnson told the court that Fletcher refused to come to court after his guilty pleas, which begs the question as to why Johnson was "so honest" with SAFC and his girlfriend - but failed to tell one of his good mates. I have no idea why he wasn't summoned to court, especially as he was a witness for Johnson. I tried to cover all points without being too obvious. Perhaps the defence did not want Mr J and Mr M singing from seperate hymn sheets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 today: Judge Jonathan Rose will sum up the evidence for the jurors. After doing that, Judge Rose will send the jury out to consider their verdict Could there be a verdict this afternoon? Or is that too soon to expect it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Going back to football. These fuckers are going to get out of it, yet again. Allardyce will get them to grind enough points out and they look far more likely of fluking some results, than we do. 4-1-4-1, though. With 3 defensive minded midfielders They may well stay up. But fuck me. Having to watch Allardyce football and that setup for the foreseeable future I almost feel sorry for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Glad he's reminded of that, the defence made a point of saying she was up for it/bragged about it etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Wouldn't be surprised if they take nine or ten hours to reach a verdict, tbh. Also be amazed if they're not called back in by the judge to say he'll accept a majority verdict rather than a unanimous one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 It won't be a unanimous decision, it will be interesting to see how low of a majority the judge will ended up allowing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Going back to football. These fuckers are going to get out of it, yet again. Allardyce will get them to grind enough points out and they look far more likely of fluking some results, than we do. 4-1-4-1, though. With 3 defensive minded midfielders They may well stay up. But fuck me. Having to watch Allardyce football and that setup for the foreseeable future I almost feel sorry for them. Comes down to us again in a way, we beat them we could go a long way to saving ourselves and really dumping them in the shit, but they'll probably waltz off with the points as per. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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