Incognito Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 How far from Obafemi Martins comparisons are we? Like an older version of Arthur Wharton that lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Yeah, I recall something like that being mentioned actually. Well we pay our fees upfront so that will be a huge bonus for us. ....And Spurs are notorious for paying over 7 years and so on...Levy is a joke to deal with. For all the money they've spent over the last 10 years they haven't really done much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Douglas thinks we'll have to pay over £20m: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-pay-20million-saido-berahino-10765329 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 We're not paying that much, seems a bit pointless to me. This is just like the Townsend deal, I can't see it happening. To just parrot what other people have been saying, it feels like it will be another "well, we tried" token gesture. Got to make sure they keep people renewing their ST's. I'd rather we moved on and looked elsewhere. If we're waiting to see who blinks first, then we'll be waiting a long time. Levy drives a hard bargain and the WBA chairman seems like a bit of a fucker and all. I don't see either of them getting desperate and giving in late in the window. The players in question need to be kicking up a massive fuss if they're really that keen to leave. Surely nobody is going to meet the valuation of £14m+ for Townsend and £20m+ for Berahino? I still think we need a striker. But I didn't expect to get Shelvey and Saviet. So if the window were to shut tomorrow. I'd be reasonably happy with how it's went. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 In fairness I think they are actually trying for these deals, but struggling to find a way to bring them down a bit. We have to bite the bullet and sign them. Spending a couple of million more than we want is peanuts compared to going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Wonder who "Plan B" is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Berahino's talent is obvious but he seems to act like he's already made it as a top player. That puts me off a bit and if we only sign one more player I'd rather it was Townsend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Berahino's talent is obvious but he seems to act like he's already made it as a top player. That puts me off a bit and if we only sign one more player I'd rather it was Townsend. Despite the massive difference in talent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I think we need a Berahino type player way more than a winger tbh. Think he would be a perfect fit to play alongside Mitrovic is a 442, and a good fit in a 433. If we pay 10-15 or £30m i could not care less really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 If they were going done a token bid route they wouldn't have paid 12 million for Jonjo. They would have just offered 10 then refused to budge. Im never going to criticise someone for refusing to just give Levy what he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Wonder who "Plan B" is? Carroll, Dost or Remy if Lee Ryder has his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 This is a huge downside to buying English players it has to be said. Always seems more complicated. Swansea were incredibly reasonable over Shelvy I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I think we need a Berahino type player way more than a winger tbh. Think he would be a perfect fit to play alongside Mitrovic is a 442, and a good fit in a 433. If we pay 10-15 or £30m i could not care less really. I don't see how they both fit into the starting XI anyway? If we get both, then great. We could actually do with some options off the bench. But I automatically assume it means someone (Sissoko) is off. I just don't trust these fuckers. I can't ever remember having decent squad depth in the prem, since Ashley has been here? If we're not going to meet the horrendously high valuation for Townsend. Then I'd rather we just went all in on Berahino. I would guess he'd be playing on the left of a 3, anyway? Similar to where Perez is playing now? That would leave Townsend on the bench. Until someone gets injured/banned/sold. If they were going done a token bid route they wouldn't have paid 12 million for Jonjo. They would have just offered 10 then refused to budge. Im never going to criticise someone for refusing to just give Levy what he wants. Except that's clearly a good deal, with a quite high possibility of re-sale value. How much would he have been worth if he never fell out with the coaches, or at the start of the season, when he was in the squad and performing? At the prices that are being quoted, I don't see how Berahino or Townsend will ever be profitable and I think they're massively overpriced. I don't care about that, it's nice to be spending some money. But judging by the way we have done business in the past, the top brass do. Maybe the Fat Man doesn't care about that and we're just desperate to make sure we stay up. But I'm still sceptical about our transfer policy. Oh and I agree with you on Levy! It's a ridiculous price for Townsend and I think we're right to be playing hard ball. I just think we should look elsewhere. £14m for a Spurs reserve player, who isn't even that good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Where do we play Berahino (in what system?) should we sign him? I'd sincerely hope it's to play WITH Mitro and not in place of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 A complete guess. But in Perez's position? I don't think Mitro would be dropped for him. I can't see us going 4-4-2 anytime soon and I wouldn't want us to. Gini is far too good in the free role, to be dropped back into centre mid. I don't think a midfield pairing of him and Shelvey would work, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 This is a huge downside to buying English players it has to be said. Always seems more complicated. Swansea were incredibly reasonable over Shelvy I thought. We got lucky on Shelvey to a degree. His stock was low at Swansea right in time for the January window. On the back of their poor form he was partly a scapegoat. Whether he was actually a part of the problem or not I'm not sure, but he sure looked handy as hell in our first game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 What's the general consensus? Elliot Janmaat Colo Mbemba Dummett (for now) Colback (can't see him being dropped) Sissoko Shelvey Gini Berahino Mitro With Saivet, Perez etc on the bench? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 A complete guess. But in Perez's position? I don't think Mitro would be dropped for him. I can't see us going 4-4-2 anytime soon and I wouldn't want us to. Gini is far too good in the free role, to be dropped back into centre mid. I don't think a midfield pairing of him and Shelvey would work, either. Go 4 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 A complete guess. But in Perez's position? I don't think Mitro would be dropped for him. I can't see us going 4-4-2 anytime soon and I wouldn't want us to. Gini is far too good in the free role, to be dropped back into centre mid. I don't think a midfield pairing of him and Shelvey would work, either. Go 4 5 1 Cheers Big Sam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 This is a huge downside to buying English players it has to be said. Always seems more complicated. Swansea were incredibly reasonable over Shelvy I thought. We got lucky on Shelvey to a degree. His stock was low at Swansea right in time for the January window. On the back of their poor form he was partly a scapegoat. Whether he was actually a part of the problem or not I'm not sure, but he sure looked handy as hell in our first game. You could argue that Berahino's situation is similar to Shelvey's though. West Brom are being impossible though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Are they though? We wouldn't like it if we weren't difficult to make someone like Ayoze leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I get the impression by reading other boards that the fans of West Brom and Spurs are getting pissed off that Peace and Levy are spending too much time on these deals rather than concentrating on their own in comings, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Where do we play Berahino (in what system?) should we sign him? I'd sincerely hope it's to play WITH Mitro and not in place of him. Fantasy stuff, colback will play, and its too offensive. I want this 442 Sissoko Shelvey Gini Perez Mitro Berahino 433 Shelvey Sissoko Gini Berahino Perez Mitro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Where do we play Berahino (in what system?) should we sign him? I'd sincerely hope it's to play WITH Mitro and not in place of him. Fantasy stuff, colback will play, and its too offensive. I want this 442 Sissoko Shelvey Gini Perez Mitro Berahino 433 Shelvey Sissoko Gini Berahino Perez Mitro I like both of those but, as you say, there's no way the Crammy Cabaye doesn't start. Sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 A complete guess. But in Perez's position? I don't think Mitro would be dropped for him. I can't see us going 4-4-2 anytime soon and I wouldn't want us to. Gini is far too good in the free role, to be dropped back into centre mid. I don't think a midfield pairing of him and Shelvey would work, either. Go 4 5 1 Cheers Big Sam Tips hat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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