Minhosa Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, nufcjb said: Brighton. Losing Ashworth and now Potter. Really interesting test of their model this. I was told they always have a plan in place for replacing their key positions. See David Weir coming in 'ready made' to replace Ashworth. Be very interesting to see who they bring in for the Potter replacement. Wouldn't be surprised if its someone who's 'up and coming' or a bit from left field as they probably monitor coaches globally as part of their model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, Minhosa said: Really interesting test of their model this. I was told they always have a plan in place for replacing their key positions. See David Weir coming in 'ready made' to replace Ashworth. Be very interesting to see who they bring in for the Potter replacement. Wouldn't be surprised if its someone who's 'up and coming' or a bit from left field as they probably monitor coaches globally as part of their model. Must feel like a right kick in the nuts though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, Coffee_Johnny said: Must feel like a right kick in the nuts though. Yep. Or, in a weird way, a huge backhanded compliment that they're doing their job's unbelievably well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mike said: Chelsea Brighton Aye, we know Mr Loyalty loves to manage rivals, and Brightons club rivals are Palace, aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Wonder if they could move for Cooper Would love to see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Would love it if Potter went there just to tell them to fuck off, Hector Salamanca style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Don't Brighton always allow this? Similar to Ashworth with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Good for us but shit for Brighton. Disappointed as I despise Chelsea. He won't turn it down, but would love to see him tell them to fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeB Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Shame for Brighton as it seemed like they were onto a really good thing with him. The big 6 hoovering up anything decent happening at the rest is vile and it's not going to change. Seems like Potter is a long-term manager rather than a quick fix but I can't see him, or anyone else for that matter, lasting more than 18 months at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: He wants his head checked for brain worms if he goes there. He'd be mad not to take it imho. Not denying his talent, but how much bigger a club could Potter realistically get? Say he says no, and Brighton fall off spectacularly this or next season. He could get sacked and then that's it, done, it's over for him in terms of getting that top top job (which Chelsea is). The job security of any PL manager is incredibly volatile, you need to cash out when your stock is high. Regardless of Chelsea's proclivity towards sacking managers, he'll be paid well, have a huge budget to play with and actually have a chance to win things. More celebrated managers than Potter have "failed" there and their reputations remained largely intact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Might end up helping us if Potter does go there, though. Weakens a rival for the top 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Think Potter will be great at any big club tbh, his style of football isn’t really suited to clubs without elite players (although it looks like it was starting to properly click at Brighton). He’s set up their with the wingbacks they have and Havertz is perfect for him up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Don't Brighton always allow this? Similar to Ashworth with us. Guess it’s part of the deal when you’re Brighton, realistically you have to let people further their careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzatoon Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Tuchel sacking is silly! Hope we stick with Howe for a good few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, hakka said: Very well put. Potter should be getting a top job like Chelsea to win the league or CL etc. - but Chelsea don't give their managers time. Potter would need at least 2 years to properly change things to his way, don't really suspect they will accept not being up there immediately. I don't think this is true. With the right backing - 12 months is all a manager needs to make real progress. Often less. We've seen it with Howe, Chelsea saw it with Tuchel, Klopp, Pep, Conte. It doesn't take years and years with the right building blocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, McCormick said: He'd be mad not to take it imho. Not denying his talent, but how much bigger a club could Potter realistically get? Say he says no, and Brighton fall off spectacularly this or next season. He could get sacked and then that's it, done, it's over for him in terms of getting that top top job (which Chelsea is). The job security of any PL manager is incredibly volatile, you need to cash out when your stock is high. Regardless of Chelsea's proclivity towards sacking managers, he'll be paid well, have a huge budget to play with and actually have a chance to win things. More celebrated managers than Potter have "failed" there and their reputations remained largely intact. Potter's stock is pretty high definitely, but he also seems to just be massively rated within the game regardless of that, I don't think that'll change too much if he stays at Brighton where he's been part of a successful mid to long term project where staff and players have been given time to improve. They fell off a bit at the tail end of last season and he's still really highly rated. I'm not saying he shouldn't take the 'big job' when it comes along, it's just that going to Chelsea specifically with its now now now set up just seems suicidal in terms of him being given the time and opportunity to fully reach his potential. Yes, his stock might remain high after Chelsea, purely because everyone knows what Chelsea are like, but that's not the type of environment I'd have thought Potter would even consider tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I’d hope I’d be a bit patient if I were Potter. Not like other top positions won’t be open before too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, McCormick said: He'd be mad not to take it imho. Not denying his talent, but how much bigger a club could Potter realistically get? Say he says no, and Brighton fall off spectacularly this or next season. He could get sacked and then that's it, done, it's over for him in terms of getting that top top job (which Chelsea is). The job security of any PL manager is incredibly volatile, you need to cash out when your stock is high. Regardless of Chelsea's proclivity towards sacking managers, he'll be paid well, have a huge budget to play with and actually have a chance to win things. More celebrated managers than Potter have "failed" there and their reputations remained largely intact. Agree 100%. I don't really get this idea that he'd be mad to go there. Managers of his calibre will have ambitions to be the best of the best, that's not going to happen at Brighton where he'll always be restricted by budget. Chelsea is a very natural progression for Potter, and tbh he seems like such a good manager that he should succeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 This smacks of Chelsea buying into Moneyball, especially if Chelsea bought players on metrics and not who Tuchel wanted. The thing with Moneyball and managers is that the higher a manager goes, the more it seems to be about controlling and motivating big egos and less about simple tactics. Potter may be the best tactical manager in the league, I couldn't tell you, but he won't have worked with this level of ego. Howe with us keeps insisting he wants no arseholes in the dressing room. That is not going to show up in a player's passing stats or expected goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, McCormick said: He'd be mad not to take it imho. Not denying his talent, but how much bigger a club could Potter realistically get? Say he says no, and Brighton fall off spectacularly this or next season. He could get sacked and then that's it, done, it's over for him in terms of getting that top top job (which Chelsea is). The job security of any PL manager is incredibly volatile, you need to cash out when your stock is high. Regardless of Chelsea's proclivity towards sacking managers, he'll be paid well, have a huge budget to play with and actually have a chance to win things. More celebrated managers than Potter have "failed" there and their reputations remained largely intact. Aye. In England what are the other options? Pep & Klopp might leave but you're not going to do better than they did. Spurs? Conte will take them as far as is possible imo and the money might not be there. Otherwise that's a solid job. Chelsea is as good a job as any imo. He must take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) Of course it might be a bit mad to go to a club that's pissed off, ostracised, and sacked like 8 managers in the last 10 years. Especially when it means leaving one that you've been given the time, resources, and trust to flourish at for the last 3 years and you're sitting 4th in the table. Edited September 7, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stottie said: This smacks of Chelsea buying into Moneyball, especially if Chelsea bought players on metrics and not who Tuchel wanted. The thing with Moneyball and managers is that the higher a manager goes, the more it seems to be about controlling and motivating big egos and less about simple tactics. Potter may be the best tactical manager in the league, I couldn't tell you, but he won't have worked with this level of ego. Howe with us keeps insisting he wants no arseholes in the dressing room. That is not going to show up in a player's passing stats or expected goals. I think the bolded depends on the club but Chelsea is one of those where the cultural fit and ego management seems a massive component. It suits the A List type manager that understand you probaby get 24-36 months - your Carlo's, Conte's and Tuchel's. Funny thing is Tuchel is not the best at managing ego's but he's on the elite club merry-go-round anyway. He'll get results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Liverpool and City job available in the not too distant future. Best not to stain his reputation at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Potter would be better off staying at Brigton, which he seems to be building a very decent club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzatoon Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Potter would be better off staying at Brigton, which he seems to be building a very decent club. Agree, I hope he stays there. Probably be the next England manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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