Charlies Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 https://twitter.com/mickquinn1089/status/1118425007280087040?s=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I like how the pundits and journalists immediately forget that it always always happens. As soon as a caretaker wins a couple of games, there's an immediate clamour for him to get the job, without fail. Like clockwork. The average person or pundit must just never bother trying to notice trends or something I know every situation is different but I'm honestly struggling to think of an occasion it's happened and things haven't gone badly quickly. Thing is with Solskjaer, on the basis of results versus previous he did deserve a shot at it, as did Roeder with us. But a club the size of Man Utd, and us at that time tbf, should be thinking a lot more big picture than "we're not losing much anymore so go on then". It sets clubs back by miles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Was hard to see them not giving it to him, but I think "unavoidable mistake"was maybe the best description of it, it was always going to go wrong. https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/29/manchester-united-told-made-unavoidable-mistake-appointing-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-9058493/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 At the time of signing OGS you'd struggle to find a reason why not, but it's still a bit weird why they did it when they did when there was no reason to sign him permanently until the summer anyway. I'll admit I kind of fell into the trap of thinking although he's not a very good manager, it could be that he just fits the club perfectly due to his background and philosophy. Although the results in April have been bad, it's been against difficult opposition including 2 games against Barca where they weren't expected to get a result in either games anyway. pretty much my thoughts as well. There's obviously more problems at man utd beyond the latest idiot in the managers seat and it makes you wonder how much fergies sheer brilliance papered over some massive faults with the way the club was being run. What I wonder is who's in charge of the transfers this summer because I wouldn't trust either OGS or Woodward to get the right players for what they need despite the huge money they can throw at the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Love that Man U are just like every other club now. I might not want to have admitted it at the time, but Sir Alex Ferguson was on another level. The only way they'll get back to that domination is with a time machine, I hope they enjoyed it while it lasted. Just look how long its taken Liverpool to reclaim even a small part of their dominance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Love that Man U are just like every other club now. I might not want to have admitted it at the time, but Sir Alex Ferguson was on another level. The only way they'll get back to that domination is with a time machine, I hope they enjoyed it while it lasted. Just look how long its taken Liverpool to reclaim even a small part of their dominance. Best manager of all-time over here at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Was hard to see them not giving it to him, but I think "unavoidable mistake"was maybe the best description of it, it was always going to go wrong. https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/29/manchester-united-told-made-unavoidable-mistake-appointing-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-9058493/ I wonder whether one or two of the players who got Solksjaer the job are a bit peeved now that he's started criticising the performances, and with all this talk of a lot of players being shifted out. It's often a problem for ex-caretaker managers. I seem to remember Willie McFaul losing the dressing room in a similar way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Love that Man U are just like every other club now. I might not want to have admitted it at the time, but Sir Alex Ferguson was on another level. The only way they'll get back to that domination is with a time machine, I hope they enjoyed it while it lasted. Just look how long its taken Liverpool to reclaim even a small part of their dominance. I'll moderately disagree, they may be fucking things up right now but they are still a money making machine and can become competitive again with some smart decisions. Liverpools problem is iirc they didn't market the club as well as man utd late 80's early 90's so were always playing catch up to man utds ridiculous commercial income. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Still can't believe they gave the job to that little tramp Solskjaer. There was no need to make it permanent at that stage whatsoever. Another monumental fuck-up and couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch. They'll be the new Liverpool now doing things based on emotions and past glory. Ole's at the wheel my fkn arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Should have got Zidane while they had the chance. He would have been perfect. How are Man Utd going to hire their beloved OGS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Ultimately, it’s nothing to them to give him the sack at any point. It’s hardly as if they’re locked in to OGS for the next 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 OGS may not be the answer really but do think the dressing room is toxic. No idea what he has been doing giving the likes of Jones contract extentions. Comedy will continue for a while lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Should have stuck with Jose and actually listened to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Ultimately, it’s nothing to them to give him the sack at any point. It’s hardly as if they’re locked in to OGS for the next 3 years. That's true but it says a lot about the rancid decision making at that club. Long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Love that Man U are just like every other club now. I might not want to have admitted it at the time, but Sir Alex Ferguson was on another level. The only way they'll get back to that domination is with a time machine, I hope they enjoyed it while it lasted. Just look how long its taken Liverpool to reclaim even a small part of their dominance. I'll moderately disagree, they may be fucking things up right now but they are still a money making machine and can become competitive again with some smart decisions. Liverpools problem is iirc they didn't market the club as well as man utd late 80's early 90's so were always playing catch up to man utds ridiculous commercial income. This, broadly. I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, if you’ve got the sort of money Man U, Chelsea etc have then your margin for error is greater. It’s only a matter of time before you appoint a decent manager who can build something with the 200M or whatever they can spend each year. Liverpool did it eventually, Man City did it eventually, Chelsea have done it in the past and will do so again. The only issue is that you have to worry about the other clubs around you. Man U’s income is such that they’ll never be “just another club”. The most we can hope is that they will stay as just another Top Six club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Love that Man U are just like every other club now. I might not want to have admitted it at the time, but Sir Alex Ferguson was on another level. The only way they'll get back to that domination is with a time machine, I hope they enjoyed it while it lasted. Just look how long its taken Liverpool to reclaim even a small part of their dominance. I'll moderately disagree, they may be fucking things up right now but they are still a money making machine and can become competitive again with some smart decisions. Liverpools problem is iirc they didn't market the club as well as man utd late 80's early 90's so were always playing catch up to man utds ridiculous commercial income. Liverpool’s bigger problem, along with Arsenal, is that Chelsea and then Man City suddenly magically had hundreds of billions to play with. It’s no coincidence that Arsenal’s titles dried up as soon as Abramovich came along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Love that Man U are just like every other club now. I might not want to have admitted it at the time, but Sir Alex Ferguson was on another level. The only way they'll get back to that domination is with a time machine, I hope they enjoyed it while it lasted. Just look how long its taken Liverpool to reclaim even a small part of their dominance. I'll moderately disagree, they may be fucking things up right now but they are still a money making machine and can become competitive again with some smart decisions. Liverpools problem is iirc they didn't market the club as well as man utd late 80's early 90's so were always playing catch up to man utds ridiculous commercial income. Liverpool’s bigger problem, along with Arsenal, is that Chelsea and then Man City suddenly magically had hundreds of billions to play with. It’s no coincidence that Arsenal’s titles dried up as soon as Abramovich came along. oh no doubt just how they ended up being so far behind man utd despite being the dominant force in 70's and 80's while man utd were nowhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Liverpool never adapted to the introduction of the back pass law. That one rule change affected their whole philosophy massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Sounding an awful lot like Emo Mourinho already https://twitter.com/RedDevilBible/status/1119986277473030144 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 First reply nails it. both things appear to be true though, solksjaer out of his depth and woodward shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Best manager of all-time over here at least. i think when you consider the longevity and extent of his domestic dominance plus european successes he's gotsta be considered the greatest of all time? and i fucken hated the ground he walked on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Sounding an awful lot like Emo Mourinho already https://twitter.com/RedDevilBible/status/1119986277473030144 What a knobhead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Hate those "you have to feel the weight of the shirt" managers, they're the footballing equivalent of Nigel Farage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Hate those "you have to feel the weight of the shirt" managers, they're the footballing equivalent of Nigel Farage Its nonesense for the most part. Tactical nous and the ability to carve out a style of play, where every player knows their role is far far more important. Solksjaer knows how to do neither. Creating a culture of hard work and professionalism at the highest order is all pàrt of the mix, but simply telling players to play with more passion or reminding them that they must play better because they play for Man Utdwont motivate them. Having said that though, Everton running 8Km further than them yesterday is something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Everton were wearing lighter shirts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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