Guest Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Always amazes me when Newcastle fans criticise a sacking when looking from the outside. We should know better than anyone with what happened under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Fat Sam currently going to town on forrin’ Managers and all things foreign on Talksport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Fat Sam currently going to town on forrin’ Managers and all things foreign on Talksport. Of course the irony being that Hughton’s replacement is likely to be someone who made his name as a foreign manager abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 A few people have. The fact is the rot had well and truly set in there, despite all the money they've spent. We've seen it before plenty of times, Brighton were probably set to start next season poorly and then they would need to find a new manager mid-season. They've made the correct decision at the best time. Overall he's obviously done a good job there, that doesn't mean he's immune from the sack. How people embrace victim hood nowadays. Grown men. It's shameful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Yeah I’m not buying the racism angle based on the lack of evidence suggesting that’s the case. It would also mean that a previously progressive owners who have actually been one of the few clubs to appoint a BAME manager have just turned into racist pigs. He’s been given the same amount of time as every other bog standard English manager has - I.e. not a lot when results start to turn. Plus, why shouldn’t they look for better? His track record in the prem isn’t particularly good and there are likely to be better options available in the summer. Bet they'll save themselves the hassle next time around and not bother hiring one in the first place. The whole thing is ridiculous. Makes me sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Fat Sam currently going to town on forrin’ Managers and all things foreign on Talksport. Of course the irony being that Hughton’s replacement is likely to be someone who made his name as a foreign manager abroad. Allardyce was happy that the two names linked with the Brighton job so far (Potter and Lampard) were English and not foreign. Was moaning about it’s now at the stage where clubs like Huddersfield are appointing foreign reserve team coaches over English managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 A few people have. The fact is the rot had well and truly set in there, despite all the money they've spent. We've seen it before plenty of times, Brighton were probably set to start next season poorly and then they would need to find a new manager mid-season. They've made the correct decision at the best time. Overall he's obviously done a good job there, that doesn't mean he's immune from the sack. Tbf we have to see how this pans out. If Brighton get relegated next season, it's clearly the wrong decision. Again, I can see both sides of the argument on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. If they get relegated, they've made the wrong decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. If they get relegated, they've made the wrong decision. Nah, that would be to confuse outcome with the decision itself. They might make a bad appointment, they might make a good appointment but have injuries or bad player form. Any number of things could happen. Football is really weird like this, the result overrides everything else to a silly degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. If they get relegated, they've made the wrong decision. It would mean the manager they replaced Hughton with had failed. It could also mean the quality of the other teams in the Premier League had improved (for example NUFC scored more points this season than last season but finished in 13th when it was 10th the season before). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. If they get relegated, they've made the wrong decision. It would mean the manager they replaced Hughton with had failed. It could also mean the quality of the other teams in the Premier League had improved (for example NUFC scored more points this season than last season but finished in 13th when it was 10th the season before). If the manager who replaces Hughton fails - they've made the wrong decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. If they get relegated, they've made the wrong decision. Nah, that would be to confuse outcome with the decision itself. They might make a bad appointment, they might make a good appointment but have injuries or bad player form. Any number of things could happen. Football is really weird like this, the result overrides everything else to a silly degree. The result does override everything. If Brighton get relegated they've made the wrong decision. If you get relegated over a 38 game season - you deserve to go down. And hence the appointment wasn't successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Surely if they go down next season the mistake is appointing the wrong manager rather than binning Hughton? Hughton is a top bloke but the results have been awful for months now, they're fully justified on sacking him imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. If they get relegated, they've made the wrong decision. It would mean the manager they replaced Hughton with had failed. It could also mean the quality of the other teams in the Premier League had improved (for example NUFC scored more points this season than last season but finished in 13th when it was 10th the season before). If the manager who replaces Hughton fails - they've made the wrong decision. Nah, it means they've appointed the wrong man. They've won 3 PL games in 23 games, that's falling off a cliff and the same happened to him at Norwich when the rot had set in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Hughton has never been relegated from the Premier League. Never been in bottom 3 with either the Toon or Brighton. There's a decent possibility they would stay up him next season, not a foregone conclusion. Their form has been turd recently, but many teams have had turd form this season and turned it around (Toon being one of them). Hughton might have turned it around, might not have. If they make the wrong appointment, and get relegated - will their fans be thinking, "ah well, we had to change managers, we were 100% going down with Hughton anyway?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Hopefully they get Graham Potter. Should sort one relegation spot for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. If they get relegated, they've made the wrong decision. It would mean the manager they replaced Hughton with had failed. It could also mean the quality of the other teams in the Premier League had improved (for example NUFC scored more points this season than last season but finished in 13th when it was 10th the season before). If the manager who replaces Hughton fails - they've made the wrong decision. Alan Pardew and Steve Mclaren didnt get us relegated, Rafa did... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Brighton get relegated under their new manager that doesn't prove they would have stayed up had they kept Hughton. If they get relegated, they've made the wrong decision. Nah, that would be to confuse outcome with the decision itself. They might make a bad appointment, they might make a good appointment but have injuries or bad player form. Any number of things could happen. Football is really weird like this, the result overrides everything else to a silly degree. The result does override everything. If Brighton get relegated they've made the wrong decision. If you get relegated over a 38 game season - you deserve to go down. And hence the appointment wasn't successful. The appointment would have been unsuccessful, yeah. But we were talking about the sacking. It doesn't make sense to say the result overrides everything, we all know there are loads of factors at play. In sport and games you sometimes make all the right decisions and still lose. The result is hindsight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Brighton had a terrible second half of the season. Another month and Cardiff would probably have overtaken them. You wonder if there were problems between the players that Hughton wasn't able to address. I suspect this is a job to avoid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Brighton had a terrible second half of the season. Another month and Cardiff would probably have overtaken them. You wonder if there were problems between the players that Hughton wasn't able to address. I suspect this is a job to avoid. There was definitely a problem with the players, they are all shite. One of the least inspiring squads you would see, based on graft and organisation. It's a miracle Hughton kept them up. If they are planning something exciting with a exciting new manager and a raft of new players, then great. I suspect they will hire someone worse than Hughton and waste a shit ton of money. They will be relegated next year IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Definitely the correct decision. Blown a decent budget on absolute shite and they've been in free fall since Xmas . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 No surprise there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 The West Brom owners were accused of being racist for sacking Darren Moore. If they appoint Hughton it'll just be so they can sack him down the line the racist bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Feels like a great fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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