AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Colo was quite a lot worse than Mapou in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Pathetic, gutless, humilating 1st half. An absolute joke. I won't pretend I hung around for the 2nd half - I was absolutely fuming so went for the Breaking Bad finale. 3-2 looks respectable but so what? There's no point starting to try when you're 3-0 down. Cracks well and truly papered over. Worst thing is that a heavy defeat would've at least rid us of Pardew. The worst of both worlds. Why was Ben Arfa taken off? He wasn't our worst player by any means (Santon, MYM, Krul etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 That 3rd goal Owned Coloccini right at the end. Then smashed it in with his right. Lukaku is a bad, bad man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The hell is going on with Ben Arfa man? One world beating performance followed by 2 garbage displays. He doesn't seem to be a bull s*** type person in the press, he has all the positive mentality in the world, something off with him? Shut-down HBA and you basically shut-down our offense. Strange, we looked much more of a threat in the second half and he wasn't on the pitch. Everton also didn't actively try to score in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The hell is going on with Ben Arfa man? One world beating performance followed by 2 garbage displays. He doesn't seem to be a bull s*** type person in the press, he has all the positive mentality in the world, something off with him? Shut-down HBA and you basically shut-down our offense. Strange, we looked much more of a threat in the second half and he wasn't on the pitch. I don't think he meant if you shut down Ben Arfa and then leave every other Newcastle player with acres of space like. Everton really stopped shutting us down in the second half, they seemed to think the game was won already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 HBA was really poor. I wouldn't be surprised if he was taken off because of a lack of effort, AP was having a go at him at times in the first half for not getting back. He really wasn't helped by being played on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 If Williamson started the game we would have conceded 10 by the half. I'll tell you that right here right now. People are deceiving themselves if they think he made any difference whatsoever. Everton were coasting and started bricking it once we scored as we deserved nothing, and we were then finally playing with freedom, as we had nothing to lose, and none of Pardew's stupid instructions to restrict us. Just stop. For all us apathetics, Kaka has enough rage for all of us, I think. Williamson was alright, I thought - won a couple of decent headers. But as you and others have said, Everton completely went off the boil (yet still could have scored a couple more). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Colo was quite a lot worse than Mapou in the first half. Colo was awful all game. Slow, weak and unassertive in the extreme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Good to see Neville and Carra really breakdown what i've been complaining about all night. Our non existent defensive system and them stupid direct balls which are fucking aimless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I also thought Santon looked poor in defence. I'd give Dummett a go. It's not the players, it's the bastard that picks them and we can change as many as we want, it will make little difference when the manager gets so much wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I also thought Santon looked poor in defence. I'd give Dummett a go. It's not the players, it's the bastard that picks them and we can change as many as we want, it will make little difference when the manager gets so much wrong. It's a bit the players, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I also thought Santon looked poor in defence. I'd give Dummett a go. Looked "poor"'? he was abysmal man, absolutely dreadful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I'm done with Santon and Debuchy for sure. Both utter lunatics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Lukaku is such a great player. I can think of a team that's been crying out for a striker for a season since letting go of their main man in attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I'm done with Santon and Debuchy for sure. Both utter lunatics. Italian international & French international Vs no mark league 1 manager and coaches no one has ever heard of. hmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Neville saying Pardew couldn't do anything, I can't figure it out. If the manager has no say on the tactics and the starting/general positions the defenders take up then why have one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I also thought Santon looked poor in defence. I'd give Dummett a go. It's not the players it's the bastard that picks them and we can change as many as we want, it will make little difference when the manager gets so much wrong. Coloccini's nearly 32 years old and it's Alan Pardew's fault he acts like a scared little bitch up against the big black man? Pardew's a clueless joke but the players don't get half as much criticism as they deserve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I also thought Santon looked poor in defence. I'd give Dummett a go. Looked "poor"'? he was abysmal man, absolutely dreadful. I think he made exactly no tackles in the match at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 "We've got to tighten up that's for sure" I swear he has said this every damned day of his loser life. Get a clue you moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Gouffran was acting LB for most of that 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I also thought Santon looked poor in defence. I'd give Dummett a go. It's not the players, it's the bastard that picks them and we can change as many as we want, it will make little difference when the manager gets so much wrong. Players have to take their fair share Mick, some canny rank performances out there tonight, Pardew or no Pardew (and I'm not trying to defend Pardew by saying that) Some players need to take a long hard look at themselves after that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Neville saying Pardew couldn't do anything, I can't figure it out. If the manager has no say on the tactics and the starting/general positions the defenders take up then why have one? Aye the media always do this for Pardew. We concede poor goals week in week out he always gets a pass. People seem to forget he's the one managing these players week in and week out. Colo is a Argentinian international and Mbiwa won the league with Montpellier and was highly regarded by everyone! Our players are going backwards through poor management and poor coaching it's that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Awful. Absolutely awful first half. If we had got anything from that I would have actually felt sorry for Everton. Selection and tactics were absolutely terrble. Don't like picking players out, but Mbiwa clearly went to the Cacapa school of defending. To think people were so keen to state that this lad was far suerior to Taylor. Made Williamson look world class. Think Pardew would have been in serious trouble if Everton didn't let us off 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I'm not commenting on Pardew's decisions tonight, but (for example) he doesn't tell Santon to sell himself short for the first goal or Colo to not bother to look where Lukaku is standing. Third goal, Colo bottles the challenge against Lukaku, Krul bottles clearing everyone out and claiming it. Second goal, stupid punt forward and nobody tracks the runner. Just rank awful defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dover Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Looks like they're just not fit enough. Sissoko, Ben Arfa, debauchy and Santon all look a yard off. Mbia looks 2 yards off. Honestly they're playing like its pre season, absolute joke for a set of professional players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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