Guest firetotheworks Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 It was the same as last season. Not hoofing as much as 12/13, but no plan, no clue, no movement, no one in the box. Except now our players are nowhere near as good as Ba, Cabaye, Remy (of the ones that we pretty much exclusively relied upon) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 If we're going to use the 0 shots on target thing as a stick to beat Pardew with (not unfairly) then we should look at the other 'stats' too. http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/829518/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2014-2015-Newcastle-United-Manchester-City If you look at the passing specifically the accuracy for the majority is up around 90% which isn't bad at all. Krul still punts it long aimlessly far too often for my liking but the rest of them combined played 30 long balss, 20 of which were 'accurate'. I try and treat each game individually and I liked what I saw today as I've said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 He just wanted to keep up his record of no shots on target in the opening home game / opening game / opening game against Man City (delete as appropriate) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 If we're going to use the 0 shots on target thing as a stick to beat Pardew with (not unfairly) then we should look at the other 'stats' too. http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/829518/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2014-2015-Newcastle-United-Manchester-City If you look at the passing specifically the accuracy for the majority is up around 90% which isn't bad at all. Krul still punts it long aimlessly far too often for my liking but the rest of them combined played 30 long balss, 20 of which were 'accurate'. I try and treat each game individually and I liked what I saw today as I've said. Again, that's not how I saw it so I'm inclined to disbelieve the stats. There's not a hope in hell we only played 10 long balls that didn't reach their intended target today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Singles out a Man City player for praise - goes with Kolarov. Fucking loves left backs, does Pardle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 JUST LEAVE YOU FUCKING CUNT WE'VE HAD ENOUGH TORTURE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I hope we put in a performance today. Honestly what's the point in him being there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Not overly concerned by a non-humiliating defeat vs a sovereign state, from time to time Pards gets them up for those games. Key test will be the next few games against shitter teams, lose the next one and he'll probably start freaking out again, drop his most attacking players and try to 0-0 it from there in as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I thought we looked well organised and tidy today tbh. Never looked like scoring really, but with a little luck we could have had a result. Then, this isn't really the issue with Pardew. We often give a "decent" account of ourselves against the better sides. It's when we come up against a team that we should have too much quality for that Pardyball rears its ugly head. No idea whatsoever how to attack a team, so we just go about trying to contain a team that shouldn't really worry us. Which is why, barring a pack of wonder goals like three seasons ago, no Pardew team will ever be anything better than midtable. The game against Palace is going to be such a shitshow, you just know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not overly concerned by a non-humiliating defeat vs a sovereign state, from time to time Pards gets them up for those games. Key test will be the next few games against shitter teams, lose the next one and he'll probably start freaking out again, drop his most attacking players and try to 0-0 it from there in as usual. This is exactly on point. Pardew is a boring but passable manager when he's not coaching afraid and lets the lads play. It's when he gets afraid and starts reverting to "Pardyball" when things go to shit. Hopefully we'll not have a bad run this season that gets him into that sorry state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I dont think he deserves that much stick for todays performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not overly concerned by a non-humiliating defeat vs a sovereign state, from time to time Pards gets them up for those games. Key test will be the next few games against shitter teams, lose the next one and he'll probably start freaking out again, drop his most attacking players and try to 0-0 it from there in as usual. This is exactly on point. Pardew is a boring but passable manager when he's not coaching afraid and lets the lads play. It's when he gets afraid and starts reverting to "Pardyball" when things go to shit. Hopefully we'll not have a bad run this season that gets him into that sorry state. Might be better if we have that run now tbh, get shot of him early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Pardew is fireproof until his teams start a losing run similar to that last season or the season before...far too many fans are dying to sweep his failures under the carpet and whereas under KK or SBR we would have been having an inquest into a home defeat on the first day of the season with several new players in the side, now you find that many are happy with a semi-respectable defeat and a bit of huff and puff in the second half. Christmas before there is ANY chance of him going unless the team collapses spectacularly in the next 6 matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Him to Geoff Shreeves in the interview after the game "we had some fret around the box that we've not had since Cabaye left". A momentary silence as the big f*** off elephant in the room wanders into shot and then........................on to the next soft question. Are these media c***s briefed not to ask about HBA or is Shreeves clueless? If the club are doing a deal with the Sun, you can bet your boots that ALL Murdoch's outfits, incl SKYSPORTS will have been told to go easy on Pardew by Ashley & Co as a part of the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not a chance we'll see any crowd unrest today, even if we lose 6-0 they will clap Pardew and players off the pitch. This. Think some of our crowd at SJP are just puppets. No - just idiots...calling them puppets is an insult to Miss Piggy and Kermit... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 If we're going to use the 0 shots on target thing as a stick to beat Pardew with (not unfairly) then we should look at the other 'stats' too. http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/829518/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2014-2015-Newcastle-United-Manchester-City If you look at the passing specifically the accuracy for the majority is up around 90% which isn't bad at all. Krul still punts it long aimlessly far too often for my liking but the rest of them combined played 30 long balss, 20 of which were 'accurate'. I try and treat each game individually and I liked what I saw today as I've said. We didnt create much chances, the fact the new players are unknown to the other teams will play a hand in this game as well. Sissoko looked like a world beater when he first join us so it would not be unusual for the new players to get found out along the season. Pardew still is a coward and had not a hand in improving our attacking play. No cohesion and style for our final third , heavily relying on the individuals again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Still a f***ing joke that this clown turns to Gabriel f***ing Obertan as his first option. It's not his fault we didn't offer Shola a new contract, I feel sorry for him having to work with his hands tied. He's got an impossible job mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizzletooth Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Pardew is fireproof until his teams start a losing run similar to that last season or the season before...far too many fans are dying to sweep his failures under the carpet and whereas under KK or SBR we would have been having an inquest into a home defeat on the first day of the season with several new players in the side, now you find that many are happy with a semi-respectable defeat and a bit of huff and puff in the second half. Christmas before there is ANY chance of him going unless the team collapses spectacularly in the next 6 matches. Harsh. Man city are the reigning champions and outclass us in every position. KK and SBR lost plenty of matches to superior teams too. Before everyone's brains explode, yes Pardew is dire but our team is no great shakes either. An expected loss with a couple of small positives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 He needs and should be expecting 13 points from the next 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 When we counter-attacked we had no-one in support. Was usually just Sissoko running about on his own until he got crowded out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-feels-newcastle-united-7629480 Don't judge until November lads, that's the excuses for the next nine games sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Give me 10 games speech again wish he'd take his clichés and fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Give me 10 games speech again wish he'd take his clichés and f*** off I don't think the guy has the ability to speak with any conviction, everything's in stupid riddles and tiresome phrases. It's ridiculous how he convinces most of the footballing fraternity that he's a good manager with said cliches. It's infuriating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Give me 10 games speech again wish he'd take his clichés and f*** off I don't think the guy has the ability to speak with any conviction, everything's in stupid riddles and tiresome phrases. It's ridiculous how he convinces most of the footballing fraternity that he's a good manager with said cliches. It's infuriating He says the same thing year after year. I give him the benefit of the doubt and gave him a full season and he still couldn't impose any sort of style of play. Fraud of a football manager who has stolen a living out of this club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 That's the worst thing- nearly 4 years and no style of play, apart from being scared of our opposition. The cunt has nearly driven me to hating football...the World Cup saved it just about. Worst thing is that he'll most likely last the season after dragging us to 12th and proclaiming 'we done good, players had to gel' etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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