Manchester United

[DubblyDubblyDubbly]

he's been a liability this season if you ask me.

Eggzackery... does something stupid then as do all the Manyoo cnuts throws his arms up in the air as if he's either innocent or hard done to.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I'm not sure Ben Arfa really is a winger. He seems to perform slightly better playing wide for us, but he's not a winger in the sense we usually use that label. I would only call people like Lennon and Downing wingers really.

 

Do you consider Robben a winger?

 

Not sure, haven't seen him much since he left Chelsea. Probably, yes.

[The College Dropout]

I'm not sure Ben Arfa really is a winger. He seems to perform slightly better playing wide for us, but he's not a winger in the sense we usually use that label. I would only call people like Lennon and Downing wingers really.

 

Do you consider Robben a winger?

 

He's always been a winger though. He started his career at LW. His game has always been beating fullbacks. He's varied it up and swapped sides but that's what you think of when you thing of Robben. Hatem's a converted #10 isn't he?

[Disco]

[jollof rice and pea]

Rafael i reckon is a John O'Shea, Nicky butt type. A decent enough sort of player who Man united have always had because you can't have a team full of Ronaldos.

Years ago the quality of their best players would have hidden the weakness'es of the likes of Rafael. But now the rest of the side is mostly average, the likes of Rafael are exposed, and he's been a liability this season if you ask me.

Well that's not really true at all, clearly very talented, can attack and cant defend (see the vast majority of supposed top fullbacks), skilful, an attacking threat and a constant runner but too eager to challenge his man and reckless with that.

[Flip]

Rafael i reckon is a John O'Shea, Nicky butt type. A decent enough sort of player who Man united have always had because you can't have a team full of Ronaldos.

Years ago the quality of their best players would have hidden the weakness'es of the likes of Rafael. But now the rest of the side is mostly average, the likes of Rafael are exposed, and he's been a liability this season if you ask me.

Well that's not really true at all, clearly very talented, can attack and cant defend (see the vast majority of supposed top fullbacks), skilful, an attacking threat and a constant runner but too eager to challenge his man and reckless with that.

 

I would agree with Henke if it wasn't for the fact this league doesn't really have any class right-backs. He's not bad, but he's just an ok player. Better than what most teams in the league has but there's a reason he's not even 4th choice RB for the national side.

[colinmk]

I think Rafeal is alright like

 

Rafael will be good. He's doing alright in a very bad defence and midfield at the moment.

[Froggy]

I think Rafeal is alright like

 

Rafael will be good. He's doing alright in a very bad defence and midfield at the moment.

 

Rafael is class like. Been consistently one of our best players for two or three seasons. To not rate him is outright stupidity. He does have recklessness still in his game, but defensively and going forward he's got all the goods. He's also 23, still has plenty of time to mature to get rid of the moments of rashness.

[henke]

If Santon played for Man United he'd be rated as a bit of a liability at times but bags of potential. Decent full back in the making however. Same as yer man Rafael. Yet he's slated when he plays for us.

[colinmk]

Strange comparison, Rafael makes mistakes but he's one of their main outlets going forward. Nowhere near as bad defensively as some on here are saying either.

[Sima]

28 March 2014 Last updated at 08:07

 

Manchester United troubles 'affect Premier League brand'

 

Manchester United's troubled defence of their Premier League title is harming the English top flight's worldwide brand, says the competition's chief executive Richard Scudamore.

Under new boss David Moyes, United are seventh in a disappointing campaign.

 

The 20-time champions are 18 points adrift of leaders Chelsea.  "It's a double-edged sword," said Scudamore. "When your most popular club isn't doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places."

 

Former Everton manager Moyes has watched the Red Devils suffer 10 defeats in 31 league matches since he replaced Sir Alex Ferguson, who retired last summer after almost 27 years in charge.

His team were knocked out of the FA Cup at the third-round stage before being eliminated from the Capital One Cup in the semi-finals.They have reached the Champions League quarter-finals, where they will face defending champions Bayern Munich next month. "There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again," added Scudamore."But you have to balance that off against, generally, we're in the business of putting on a competition and competition means people can compete."

 

Overseas television deals will earn the Premier League more than £2bn between 2013 and 2016. The Premier League sold its domestic broadcasting rights to Sky and BT in a record-breaking deal, worth around £3bn, last year.

 

The Premier League 'brand'

[Incognito]

28 March 2014 Last updated at 08:07

 

Manchester United troubles 'affect Premier League brand'

 

Manchester United's troubled defence of their Premier League title is harming the English top flight's worldwide brand, says the competition's chief executive Richard Scudamore.

Under new boss David Moyes, United are seventh in a disappointing campaign.

 

The 20-time champions are 18 points adrift of leaders Chelsea.  "It's a double-edged sword," said Scudamore. "When your most popular club isn't doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places."

 

Former Everton manager Moyes has watched the Red Devils suffer 10 defeats in 31 league matches since he replaced Sir Alex Ferguson, who retired last summer after almost 27 years in charge.

His team were knocked out of the FA Cup at the third-round stage before being eliminated from the Capital One Cup in the semi-finals.They have reached the Champions League quarter-finals, where they will face defending champions Bayern Munich next month. "There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again," added Scudamore."But you have to balance that off against, generally, we're in the business of putting on a competition and competition means people can compete."

 

Overseas television deals will earn the Premier League more than £2bn between 2013 and 2016. The Premier League sold its domestic broadcasting rights to Sky and BT in a record-breaking deal, worth around £3bn, last year.

 

The Premier League 'brand'

 

So the Chief Executive of the Premiership thinks that it harms the League when Manchester United aren't competitive at the top? Wonder if there is any correlation to the dodgy pens, ungiven pens to the opposition, extra added on time and disallowed goals to the opposition, that Manchester United have so regularly benefitted from over the past 20 odd years?

[Interpolic]

Thoroughly depressing quotes.

[The College Dropout]

Rafael's biggest issue is this recklessness. It spreads nervousness in the team.

 

Maybe he could become a great fullback but at the moment you don't look at him and think "solid". All the very best right backs are imo. Lahm, Zabaleta, Alves, Cole etc.

[Hanshithispantz]

Thoroughly depressing quotes.

Yep, absolutely horrible.

[Flip]

Rafael's biggest issue is this recklessness. It spreads nervousness in the team.

 

Maybe he could become a great fullback but at the moment you don't look at him and think "solid". All the very best right backs are imo. Lahm, Zabaleta, Alves, Cole etc.

 

This is the problem in the world, when players like Zabaleta, an out of form Alves and a benched Cole are considered great fullbacks we know there's a shortage of them in the world. I think Rafael is a decent player, but he's just too reckless and he's not as talented as Dani and Marcelo are who both used to be as reckless as Rafael if not worse. Was a time when Marcelo was a hotheaded crazy person on the pitch, unbelievable how he has matured over couple of years and even become 3rd captain for Real.

 

At the moment for me there's only really two GREAT fullbacks in the world. Lahm and Marcelo (who granted wasn't good against Sevilla, but who is the most technical fullback there is and comfortable on the ball). Alba, Dani, Zabaleta, Rafinha, Alaba, Cole etc. are all very good fullbacks, they're just not great.

 

 

[TaylorJ_01]

 

Unnecessary picture of the week.

[Beren]

28 March 2014 Last updated at 08:07

 

Manchester United troubles 'affect Premier League brand'

 

Manchester United's troubled defence of their Premier League title is harming the English top flight's worldwide brand, says the competition's chief executive Richard Scudamore.

Under new boss David Moyes, United are seventh in a disappointing campaign.

 

The 20-time champions are 18 points adrift of leaders Chelsea.  "It's a double-edged sword," said Scudamore. "When your most popular club isn't doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places."

 

Former Everton manager Moyes has watched the Red Devils suffer 10 defeats in 31 league matches since he replaced Sir Alex Ferguson, who retired last summer after almost 27 years in charge.

His team were knocked out of the FA Cup at the third-round stage before being eliminated from the Capital One Cup in the semi-finals.They have reached the Champions League quarter-finals, where they will face defending champions Bayern Munich next month. "There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again," added Scudamore."But you have to balance that off against, generally, we're in the business of putting on a competition and competition means people can compete."

 

Overseas television deals will earn the Premier League more than £2bn between 2013 and 2016. The Premier League sold its domestic broadcasting rights to Sky and BT in a record-breaking deal, worth around £3bn, last year.

 

The Premier League 'brand'

 

So the Chief Executive of the Premiership thinks that it harms the League when Manchester United aren't competitive at the top? Wonder if there is any correlation to the dodgy pens, ungiven pens to the opposition, extra added on time and disallowed goals to the opposition, that Manchester United have so regularly benefitted from over the past 20 odd years?

 

Came in to post this There's no way the message/ambition for Man Utd to do well doesn't cascade its way into the details from way on down.

 

Years of Man Utd fans saying their good 'fortune' was coincidence, luck or refereeing incompetence rather than pre-meditated bias.

[The College Dropout]

Rafael's biggest issue is this recklessness. It spreads nervousness in the team.

 

Maybe he could become a great fullback but at the moment you don't look at him and think "solid". All the very best right backs are imo. Lahm, Zabaleta, Alves, Cole etc.

 

This is the problem in the world, when players like Zabaleta, an out of form Alves and a benched Cole are considered great fullbacks we know there's a shortage of them in the world. I think Rafael is a decent player, but he's just too reckless and he's not as talented as Dani and Marcelo are who both used to be as reckless as Rafael if not worse. Was a time when Marcelo was a hotheaded crazy person on the pitch, unbelievable how he has matured over couple of years and even become 3rd captain for Real.

 

At the moment for me there's only really two GREAT fullbacks in the world. Lahm and Marcelo (who granted wasn't good against Sevilla, but who is the most technical fullback there is and comfortable on the ball). Alba, Dani, Zabaleta, Rafinha, Alaba, Cole etc. are all very good fullbacks, they're just not great.

 

Cole has been a great fullback during his career. As has Alves for Barcelona and even Evra until the last couple of seasons.

 

I think Marcelo is made to look better than he is because teams are (rightly) cautious to attack his side and I haven't seen a lot of him for Brazil.

 

My main point, is to be considered a top fullback you have to be solid defensively. There's plenty of Kyle Walker's around but there's few who **look** good going forward but can also properly defend. The most impressive thing about Azpilicueta is that he can really defend and he looked better going forward when at RB last season under Rafa.

[Flip]

Yeah my opinion of a great fullback is definitely different, I want a fullback that can attack. Grew up idolising Cafu and players like Zanetti and Roberto Carlos. Players that could run up and down the field and do everything.

 

As for Cole, Dani and Evra, they've all been great fullbacks none of them are anymore though. Still of the opinion that the two best fullbacks are Marcelo and Lahm. Lahm because of his consistency and amazing awareness. Marcelo because he's the best ball-playing defender I've seen in a long time. He's excellent for Brazil every time and has improved defensively over the years. Better than Dani ever was defensively.

[Beren]

Zanetti and Cafu are in a league of their own

[loki679]

There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again," added Scudamore."But you have to balance that off against, generally, we're in the business of putting on a competition and competition means people can compete."

 

What the actual fuck?  You don't have to 'balance' anything and you're not 'generally' in the business of putting on a competition, that is your business you stupid, corrupt, money hungry fuck.

 

[Collage]

Zanetti and Cafu are in a league of their own

 

Maicon was mint too 

[Deuce]

28 March 2014 Last updated at 08:07

 

Manchester United troubles 'affect Premier League brand'

 

Manchester United's troubled defence of their Premier League title is harming the English top flight's worldwide brand, says the competition's chief executive Richard Scudamore.

Under new boss David Moyes, United are seventh in a disappointing campaign.

 

The 20-time champions are 18 points adrift of leaders Chelsea.  "It's a double-edged sword," said Scudamore. "When your most popular club isn't doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places."

 

Former Everton manager Moyes has watched the Red Devils suffer 10 defeats in 31 league matches since he replaced Sir Alex Ferguson, who retired last summer after almost 27 years in charge.

His team were knocked out of the FA Cup at the third-round stage before being eliminated from the Capital One Cup in the semi-finals.They have reached the Champions League quarter-finals, where they will face defending champions Bayern Munich next month. "There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again," added Scudamore."But you have to balance that off against, generally, we're in the business of putting on a competition and competition means people can compete."

 

Overseas television deals will earn the Premier League more than £2bn between 2013 and 2016. The Premier League sold its domestic broadcasting rights to Sky and BT in a record-breaking deal, worth around £3bn, last year.

 

The Premier League 'brand'

 

Unfortunately, that's the reality if the situation. A poor-performing ManU hurts their business, and the league is a business before anything else.

 

And it's laughable that they think of it as a competition. It's not.

[TRon]

What's really hilarious about the Man U brand is that the only way a money spinning juggernaut like them could fail would be to make a poor appointment as manager.