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Hatem Ben Arfa (now retired?)


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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Weirdly he always kept himself pretty fit, despite outwardly not giving a shit.
 

Hopefully someone sits down with him one day and really gets some answers. I can’t imagine being that good at football and doing so little with it, but I do understand not being competitive and not fitting in with football culture. 

He had a good career all things considered.

 

Almost 500 professional appearances at the highest level.

 

Represented France.

 

Won Ligue 1 a number of times with different clubs. As well as a bunch of cups.

 

He didn't go on to become a giant of the European game like Karim Benzema and he definitely had the ability too. But he did have a good career. He gets lumped in with the likes of Taarabt but HBA's career is a level above.

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Oh yeah, he did decently well, he just had the ability to be a multiple champions league and ballon d'or winner (probably).

 

He won't go down as one of the best players of all time, which he should have. 

 

 

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HBA was always a player you had to allow free reign and in essence build a side to accommodate him.  That doesn't really cut it in modern football when the likes of Messi in his pomp would still work for the side. To be fair to Hatem you did see him in games do a bit of graft but Pardew never seemed to give him a moments credit for it, a cleverer manager may well have been able to build on those moments and hopefully integrate those into his game more. He was far too often treated like our joker. Team in the shit, need to get summat out the match Pardew would send on Ben Arfa, sometimes he'd make something happen, then still be on the bench ,other times he wouldn't, so he'd still be on the bench, and often Obertan would be in ahead of him, incredibly frustrating for a tremendously gifted player.  Barring that short period when it was HBA, Cisse and Ba, Pardew didn't have the first clue really on what to do with him. Which lead to Ben Arfa trying to throw a fridge at him I believe. As other said many times such a shame he never got to work with KK or Sir Bobby, you only have to look at his time at NIce to see what he could do to transform a team with a progressive coach.

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He would've pressed and worked reasonably hard for Howe, I think. I don't really think of HBA as being a lazy player; he just really, really didn't want to do what Pardew wanted him to do which was play as an auxiliary right wing back without the ball. 

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