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Probably already mentioned but the BBC have put it in their Sportsday breaking news covergae (9:45am if anyone wants to see it - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/26436709) Great work everyone by the way!

 

:cheesy: More proud I made it on the BBC website than anything else I've done in my life.

 

:lol: brilliant.

 

We need to capitalize on this coverage though. Keep those photos rolling in please :thup:

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Graham Courtney on TS now actually sticking up for the Chronicle/fans. When did he turn on the club? Needless to say the presenters feel Mourinho or Gardiola couldnt do anything better under these circumstances  :idiot2:

 

Half the pundits and journalists just spout a load of shit without any real knowledge of the situation, and Talk Sport are the worst for it.

Considering they're a dedicated sports radio station you'd think they might actually do some research.  They constantly talk about the Cabaye situation as if it justifies a record run of defeats - no mention of the over-reliance on one player for all creativity, no mention of the fact we wouldn't have been so pissed off about Cabaye going if they'd actually signed a fucking replacement, no mention of the awful football we have to endure week in, week out.

 

They also talk about not understanding why we played weakened sides in the cups - no mention of the statement from the club saying we're not interested in them. You only have to read nufc.com or this forum to find out about it FFS.

 

The papers are the bloody same as well.

 

Fucking boils my piss! I'm not suggesting they should have an in-depth knowledge of the goings-on at every club but a little bit of homework before they start discussing something should be the bare minimum, surely. 

 

They're also quite happy to jizz their pants over what Martinez has done at Everton with arguably a comparable squad to ours and yet, no manager could do better than what Pardew has done at Newcastle??!! Wankers!!

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A lot of Sports 'Journalism' deliberately sets out to p*ss people off. I'm sure producers encourage contentious reporting.

 

TS are the kings of that - getting one presenter to provide an objective view just to encourage pissed up cockney manc arseholes to phone in and make tits of themselves.

 

I should really stop listening to it shouldn't I, it just makes me angry

 

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It's so ill-informed and lazy I want to vomit, and they're still the ones influencing the wider audience, not this place or nufc.com or True Faith. It doesn't take a lot of thinking or reading to catch up on the situation.

 

The same with much of sports journalism, ex-players are generally fucking idiots without any analytical skill or interest.

 

I listened to one expert over here the other day who tried to explain why Moyes wasn't successfull at Manchester United. Apparently "Sir Alex became obsessed with trying to replicate Barcelona's tiki-taka and therefore his team forgot how to defend, Moyes is now suffering the consequences."

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A lot of Sports 'Journalism' deliberately sets out to p*ss people off. I'm sure producers encourage contentious reporting.

 

TS are the kings of that - getting one presenter to provide an objective view just to encourage p*ssed up cockney manc arseholes to phone in and make tits of themselves.

 

I should really stop listening to it shouldn't I, it just makes me angry

 

 

Definitely. Just think back to when they didn't know who David Silva and Yaya Toure and criticised Man City for not buying players like Lampard. :lol:

 

Some guy phoned and absolutely ripped them to shreds and they then claimed that all he'd done was look those players up on Wikipedia. :lol:

 

Did they learn? Did they fuck.

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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-cameron-what-next-newcastle-7081429#.U2n2kXeCyvU.twitter

 

Neil Cameron: What next for Newcastle United fans after Saturday's protest?

 

May 07, 2014 08:073

 

 

Protests, boycotts, planned walkouts, mass disillusion and anger.

 

It sounds like the opening section of a documentary about the 1970s, wherein some posh bloke from Oxbridge looks back at industrial disputes during that decade and decides, to the surprise of nobody, that the fault for such feeling lay with the poor.

 

But, alas, this is football and specifically Newcastle United.

 

A strange old season took another twist at the weekend when thousands of supporters walked out of St James’ Park on either the hour or on 69 minutes, which the majority did, in protest against Mike Ashley, perhaps also at Alan Pardew, and the way the club has been run.

 

Into the ground say the owner’s harshest critics. Ashley would say, and there are some agree, that he has sailed the club into calm-ish waters.

 

But no matter what side of the debate you sit, this cannot be allowed to go on much longer. When the most loyal fans in the country choose not to go any more, a tipping point has been reached.

 

Colin Whittle, of the Newcastle United Supporters Trust (NUST), believes up to 5,000 plus walked out. From my seat in the stand, I guessed around 1000, but I have always been pretty rubbish at such estimates.

 

Pictures have since emerged of those who walked out, outside St James’ Park and judging by the images, the figure would be closer to Whittle’s estimate, although it didn’t feel as if there were 5000 empty seats for the final 20 minutes of the Cardiff City game.

 

There was enough to make a point. But to what avail?

 

If everyone walked out, would it make Ashley sit up and take notice.

 

Playing devil’s advocate, or stating the bleeding obvious, surely he will only move on when another billionaire offers him silly money for the football and/or the Sports Direct supremo reckons he’s made all the money he could out of Newcastle.

 

Whittle has a third alternative.

 

He said: “Or he changes his philosophy in the mean time. There’s always that.

 

“There can be a massive improvement on the way things have been run. The first thing that needs to be done is to admit there is a problem, and there is a huge problem.

 

“We know there has been interest in buying the club.

 

“But it’s the terms of any deal that will see what materialises.”

 

You really think there is a generous interest from an outside party?

 

“Yes, but not at the price he is alleged to be after.”

 

And now we get into guessing games.

 

Ashley would want the debt paid off to him and then some. You are talking several hundred million pounds at least.

 

Most Newcastle United supporters believe things need to change. Some want this to happen on a grand scale, others would be happy to see some minor improvement.

 

Never think everyone sings off the same songsheet.

 

That was evident on social media when NUST were accused by some of having an “agenda”, a claim some club insiders are happy to pass on, it must be said.

 

Whittle said: “What agenda? The Trust’s only agenda is to improve Newcastle United and in particular to ensure fans have a say in the running of the club.

 

“The first I knew about a potential walkout was when True Faith and The Mag got onto the fact this had been suggested.

 

“The view was if we were to get wider attention in the national Press, we needed to link it to a theme and 1969 being the last time we won a trophy, gave us a hook.

 

“The Trust were asked to back it, which we agreed to. I understand there has been debate about it, but that’s a minor point.

 

“The club has dismissed a lot of activities, the Time 4 Change march being one, and claim it’s a minority that is unhappy. They have dismissed the Trust.

 

“But it was the not-so-silent majority on Saturday, who either walked out, or who stayed but were very vocal in their feelings about the current state of the club and who cannot be ignored any longer.

 

“It wasn’t a sell-out on the last Saturday of the season. I believe the silent majority spoke out. The atmosphere was toxic.”

 

That is not up for debate.

 

Pardew has been silly to try to blame the Press for, well, anything really. It always seems like the final act of a desperate man to point the finger at the Press box, rather than admit things are wrong within the football club.

 

But – and this is just a personal thing – the booing of Pardew every time his silver hair was spotted outside of the technical area sat uneasily with me.

 

Pardew has been forced to take the brunt of the blame because he has been the only public face of the club all season and beyond. That is unfair.

 

What is equally wrong is for the manager to apologise for losing six games in a row because that’s not what any of this is about.

 

Whittle said: “I have never experienced such a sustained treatment of a Newcastle manager at St James’. Maybe little bits here and there, and I’m thinking about the Sam Allardyce era, but Saturday was the worst.

 

“Part of it is because the manager is seen as the sole spokesman for the club. He is the one visible representative of the club who people can vent their anger at.

 

“I do get the impression that sometimes he speaks on issues of which he doesn’t have any control over. That can be dangerous because you then have contradictory behaviour, for instance on the subject of transfers.”

 

That is an understandable frustration.

 

Last summer, for example, Pardew spoke about signing a number of players and only Loic Remy arrived on loan. So when he speaks of players arriving this summer, few believe him and instead consider it to be the comments of a puppet (or muppet according to one banner).

 

Saturday did seem to be a turning point, major or otherwise, in the relationship between the fans and their football club. The emphasis on the word their.

 

There are a lot of good people inside Newcastle United. Take it from me, they know what the problems are and if they were given more control, some of this unpleasantness could have been avoided.

 

“I remember Keegan’s first season as manager when we lost 4-1 to Derby County and we had three men sent off, “ recalled Whittle. “We were bottom of the old Second Division at the Easter weekend and yet that was one of the best atmospheres I can remember at an away game.

 

“David Kelly admitted on the radio afterwards that he had “ran his ******** off” and he came over to our fans at the end. The support was unbelievable. It was as if we were part of the club, we were part of this, despite losing.”

 

And that has gone? “That has gone, yeah.”

 

“Whittle added: “There have been worst times in terms of results. We’ve been relegated many times, but we felt there was a connection which simply doesn’t exist any more.

 

“That has been eroded over the last few seasons.”

 

Something we can all agree on is if there is not significant investment made into that squad this summer, Newcastle will struggle.

 

Without making a permanent signing, they have improved their league position from the previous campaign when relegation was a possibility right up until the penultimate weekend of the season.

 

But since January and Yohan Cabaye’s departure, the team has taken a huge downturn.

 

Perhaps only the sale of Paul Gascoigne to Tottenham has seen the team take such a detrimental slide because of just one player.

 

Whittle said: “What did that say to other people?

 

“That we allow our best player to leave without replacing him because we are happy to finish top ten.

 

“What kind of players is that going to attract?” Mid-table players, that’s what.”

 

Whittle is not speaking for anyone else but himself, however, I believe when he says that Newcastle fans don’t expect to automatically sign world-class players or finish in the top six, he is telling the truth.

 

“We have had worse seasons,” he says. “It’s not the finishing ninth or tenth that is a problem.

 

“Contrary to what people outside the North East think, and Alan Shearer summed this up well on television, we don’t believe we have the right to be in the top three, we want a team that is committed and protect the values we supporters feel.

 

“At this moment, the club isn’t like that.”

 

A Fans’ Forum meeting has been pencilled in for this month, I believe next Monday, but the Trust continue to be banned and no correspondence has been replied to over the past few months.

 

There are more talks going on right now to solve the crisis in Ukraine than there is between a group of football fans and the club they follow.

 

It’s just daft. For lack of a better word.

 

“The club cannot say that a minority of fans are against them,” said Whittle.

 

“It’s clearly not. There is a major dissatisfaction among people who ordinarily would never take part in any protests.

 

“The spoke on Saturday and that atmosphere will no doubt continue unless something happens.”

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Colin always was a bit :anguish:

 

Those wankers are still talking about trying to buy the club according to their current survey in the mag. Fucking idiots, wouldnt trust anyone there to be allowed near ownership  :rolleyes:

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There are more talks going on right now to solve the crisis in Ukraine than there is between a group of football fans and the club they follow.

 

 

:lol:

 

I would expect this TBF.

 

:lol: Aye, not entirely sure what point he was going for there.

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NUST are a joke and in my opinion a bunch of con artists.

 

They started off trying to get people to invest into them, including mortgages and pensions, though their official stance on pensions has changed. They apparently tried to buy some of the club but failed. They say if they aren't successful in buying some of the club then the money raised will go to SBR foundation. Well they have been trying to buy the club for how many years without success now and where is the evidence of a donation made to the SBR foundation?

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NUST are a joke and in my opinion a bunch of con artists.

 

They started off trying to get people to invest into them, including mortgages and pensions, though there official stance on pensions has changed. They apparently tried to buy some of the club but failed. They say if they aren't successful in buying some of the club then the money raised will go to SBR foundation. Well they have been trying to buy the club for how many years without success now and where is the evidence of a donation made to the SBR foundation.

 

They will argue that they are still trying to buy it therefore will never need to give their weekly expenses fund to charity.

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A lot of Sports 'Journalism' deliberately sets out to p*ss people off. I'm sure producers encourage contentious reporting.

 

Happens a lot in Spain too. Angry people will call back/post in your site while people that agree with you won't.

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There are more talks going on right now to solve the crisis in Ukraine than there is between a group of football fans and the club they follow.

 

 

:lol:

 

I would expect this TBF.

 

:lol:

 

What the fuck is he on about?

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