joeyt Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 How the f*** do they measure "successful dribbles"? On a scale of Messi to Dan Gosling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Receive ball, run with it, don't lose it at the end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What if you beat a few players then shoot and its saved?, or cross and its headed away?, are those counted as successful? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 i think beating someone with the ball is considered successful. if you beat another person, is that considered 2 successful dribbles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 How the fuck do they measure "successful dribbles"? Dribbles/Take-ons This is an attempt by a player to beat an opponent in possession of the ball. A successful dribble means the player beats the defender while retaining possession, unsuccessful ones are where the dribbler is tackled, Opta also log attempted dribbles where the player overruns the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What if you do a Ben Arfa and beat 3 people but then get tackled by the 4th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What if you do a Ben Arfa and beat 3 people but then get tackled by the 4th Three successful dribbles and one unsuccessful one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 So based on these stats, De Jong rarely dribbles and probably shouldn't be allowed to, rarely passes and almost never makes creative passes, doesn't defend, but shoots and scores alot. All of that from central midfield. Again, odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He's not a central midfielder though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He's not a central midfielder though I mean yeah, those are out-and-out striker stats. Not even center forward stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Odd stats for a midfielder, to say the least. Maybe because he's not a midfielder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 So he's Vuckic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Not that I'm an expert on the Dutch league but Siem De Jong seems like a Leon Osman type of an attacking player. Don't think he'd make much difference in The King's rigid so-called 'tactics' but at least he's better than fucking Gosling. Hopefully he has more flair and mobility than his brother at least.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Used to winning derby matches against a team playing in red and white stripes. Another 10 please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Dutch Kevin Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He's not a central midfielder though You would expect a no 10 to have some assists though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think he's a player that needs a lot of movement around him, other players creating space for him to take advantage of. He's gonna be brilliant with our fluid movement all over the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 canny signing, but does anyone else think it doesn't mean much...in the grand scheme of things...or am I just being a miserable fuck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 So based on these stats, De Jong rarely dribbles and probably shouldn't be allowed to, rarely passes and almost never makes creative passes, doesn't defend, but shoots and scores alot. All of that from central midfield. Again, odd. From the couple of videos I watched he has decent movement and loves an early shot, seems to hit everything first-time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 You would expect a no 10 to have some assists though. 7 goals and 1 assist in 16 apps, in the league last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Everyone thinks it doesn't mean much, read the thread. Within 5 games there will be people calling him crap and all because of the way Pardew plays him - long balls over the top from Mike Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 canny signing, but does anyone else think it doesn't mean much...in the grand scheme of things...or am I just being a miserable f***? Happier than I thought I'd be, suppose because it seems like a genuinely decent signing. The Ben Arfa situation just undermines everything though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Everyone thinks it doesn't mean much, read the thread. Fair enough, but to be perfectly honest, I'm not going back through the last 15 or so pages (since I last looked) Happier than I thought I'd be, suppose because it seems like a genuinely decent signing. The Ben Arfa situation just undermines everything though. my feelings on it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Krul Anita Williamson Coloccini Santon Tiote Colback Sissoko De Jong Gouffran Perez This is fucking grim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Deep lying striker rather than a number 10, looks like he makes runs similar to Nolan rather than creating and link up like say Silva, Mata etc. Personally think we need the link up creative type as we need someone to provide those plays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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