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  On 20/11/2014 at 16:49, Mick said:

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His orders may have come from above but he should have argued to "hold off" until the player was clear of cancer.

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter where the orders came from, he decided to carry them out.

 

Thats what I was saying.

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  On 20/11/2014 at 16:56, Northerngimp said:

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His orders may have come from above but he should have argued to "hold off" until the player was clear of cancer.

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter where the orders came from, he decided to carry them out.

 

Thats what I was saying.

I know.
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I understand it from a footballing perspective, but when you add in his illness I think the club could definitely have done the decent thing and let him recover and talk about his future when he came back.

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Thing is even this "footballing reasons" explanation leaves me feeling a bit uncomfortable, something just doesn't stack up. For ages he was Pardews favourite, seemed undroppable, and to the frustration of many on here. I get that he had slipped out of the starting line up but to go from Golden Boy to "find a new club" in a matter of months doesn't add up.

 

I'd really hope I'm wrong like because for everything I've said about Pardew, and for all the low expectations I have of him and the club in general at the minute, this still shocks me.

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  On 21/11/2014 at 08:03, Happy Face said:

Footballing reasons is just as disgusting really. Uprooting a man's entire career and his family while he fights cancer... for a game.

 

 

Aye, I don't know how this can reasonably defended. Jonas was definitely on the decline, but he had been one of the first names on the team sheet under Pardew and had always given his all on the pitch (again, the quality may not have been there anymore, but his work rate cannot be questioned imo). Then to come out and say he was shipped out for "footballing reasons" when he was fighting cancer is just disgraceful beyond belief.

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  On 20/11/2014 at 18:24, Mick said:

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His orders may have come from above but he should have argued to "hold off" until the player was clear of cancer.

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter where the orders came from, he decided to carry them out.

 

Thats what I was saying.

I know.

 

I know mate.

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  On 21/11/2014 at 08:03, Happy Face said:

Footballing reasons is just as disgusting really. Uprooting a man's entire career and his family while he fights cancer... for a game.

 

 

We are a fincial business first, then football.

 

I think a financial decision was made, asset that cant play, costs ££££ - needs to be moved on asap.

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  On 21/11/2014 at 09:53, Northerngimp said:

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Footballing reasons is just as disgusting really. Uprooting a man's entire career and his family while he fights cancer... for a game.

 

 

We are a fincial business first, then football.

 

I think a financial decision was made, asset that cant play, costs ££££ - needs to be moved on asap.

 

The financial reasons are understandable taken out of context but a modicum of empathy should have been forefront to any decision made. A persons life and indeed state of mind should take presidence in any life threatening situation. Heartless decision to wipe their hands of him.

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  On 21/11/2014 at 16:04, SanToon said:

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To the photos bit

 

Bit like in London when there was that helicopter crash and instead of trying to save people, everyone just got their phones out and filmed it. That's what I'm putting it down to.

 

'Look mam, a photo of me with the devil.'

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“The difference is probably because he’s a British owner.

 

“Lots of the foreign owners would look at bringing a foreign manager in because maybe he’s been a better player than Alan Pardew was and they played in Italy or Spain.

 

“But Ashley has stuck by him, and no matter what abuse he gets, he doesn’t care, does he?

 

“That’s why he’s such a clever man – you don’t become that wealthy if you’re not a clever man.”

 

Breathtaking stupidity.

 

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  On 21/11/2014 at 17:01, KaKa said:

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“The difference is probably because he’s a British owner.

 

“Lots of the foreign owners would look at bringing a foreign manager in because maybe he’s been a better player than Alan Pardew was and they played in Italy or Spain.

 

“But Ashley has stuck by him, and no matter what abuse he gets, he doesn’t care, does he?

 

“That’s why he’s such a clever man – you don’t become that wealthy if you’re not a clever man.”

 

Breathtaking stupidity.

 

 

If that is the reason then why do Spurs keep sacking their managers?

 

 

 

 

 

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  On 21/11/2014 at 17:04, Wallace said:

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“The difference is probably because he’s a British owner.

 

“Lots of the foreign owners would look at bringing a foreign manager in because maybe he’s been a better player than Alan Pardew was and they played in Italy or Spain.

 

“But Ashley has stuck by him, and no matter what abuse he gets, he doesn’t care, does he?

 

“That’s why he’s such a clever man – you don’t become that wealthy if you’re not a clever man.”

 

Breathtaking stupidity.

 

 

If that is the reason then why do Spurs keep sacking their managers?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I bet Dave Whelan knows why

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Can it please be said now, if this is going to be another one of those 'we're gonna play absolutely shit yet finish 5th' seasons, to remind yourself to remember we got there despite Pardew, not because of him.

 

Took me 3 years of banging my head against a wall before most agreed.

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