Wullie Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. He'll find it very difficult seeking out another manager who is prepared to act as a sex slave, who will do anything and say anything to keep his job. That total control is why Pardew has stayed in post, nowt to do with compensation. Ashley's whole operation hinges on the yes-men who do his bidding. Getting rid of them might very well hasten his departure if he thinks it's more trouble than it's worth. But he'll certainly never leave whilst he's got these individuals willing to drive his gravy train and bend over for him whenever he tells them to. If you support Pardew, you support Ashley. The two are inextricably linked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. We've signed two of Ajax's better players of the last few years, including their captain, why wouldn't we be able to sign their manager? A man who has made comments about how much he respects NUFC? If them 2 are 2 of their better players I'd hate to see their poor ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. We've signed two of Ajax's better players of the last few years, including their captain, why wouldn't we be able to sign their manager? A man who has made comments about how much he respects NUFC? If them 2 are 2 of their better players I'd hate to see their poor ones. So you've made a judgement on De Jong after 1 game in he clearly wasn't fit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. We've signed two of Ajax's better players of the last few years, including their captain, why wouldn't we be able to sign their manager? A man who has made comments about how much he respects NUFC? If them 2 are 2 of their better players I'd hate to see their poor ones. So you've made a judgement on De Jong after 1 game in he clearly wasn't fit? Not just 1 game. Did he make it to the World Cup in Brazil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. We've signed two of Ajax's better players of the last few years, including their captain, why wouldn't we be able to sign their manager? A man who has made comments about how much he respects NUFC? If them 2 are 2 of their better players I'd hate to see their poor ones. So you've made a judgement on De Jong after 1 game in he clearly wasn't fit? Not just 1 game. Did he make it to the World Cup in Brazil? Had a lot of injuries last season didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJberger Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 He could win 10 more games in a row ( He wont) And I still wont change my opinion on the man. Its pretty evident from previous clubs that the man has one blueprint and one blueprint only, keep spirits high and fight as a unit. It has nothing to do with football really, more like Rugby or a cheesy 80s american kids sports movie about tenacity and belief. He doesnt know why he wins, he doesnt know why he loses. There is no point in embarking on a "does he/doesnt he" debate any time the stars align. There are more fruitful answers to be had asking dement pensioners in Vegas on why they won on a one-armed bandit, than inquiring Pardew about why his team won. He wont have a clue and offer his usual waffle! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. We've signed two of Ajax's better players of the last few years, including their captain, why wouldn't we be able to sign their manager? A man who has made comments about how much he respects NUFC? If them 2 are 2 of their better players I'd hate to see their poor ones. So you've made a judgement on De Jong after 1 game in he clearly wasn't fit? Not just 1 game. Did he make it to the World Cup in Brazil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Ujpest Doza doesn't rate one of our foreign players? Shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 MOTD really pissed me off last night when it showed happy fans, celebrating a win and equated it to Pardew is King and we're a fickle bunch. No doubt in my mind that it's players that have pulled Pardew out of the shit, and that by accident and not design. We've seen this before too so should all recognise it. First loss/hammering with this team and you'll see instant changes and back to the cycle of utter crap that is Pardew's forte. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. We've signed two of Ajax's better players of the last few years, including their captain, why wouldn't we be able to sign their manager? A man who has made comments about how much he respects NUFC? you might be right, I always imagine a manager who was an ex-player that has amassed great fortunes in his playing career will be a bit more selective than a current player signing for a club that pays them more than what they currently earn. Loads of people respect NUFC because of the fans, but I can't see too many people respecting NUFC (in the last few years) as a club given the fat mess that has taken over it. Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. Then when that becomes apparent you make it clear that you want them gone too. By giving Pardew a free ride we're giving Ashley a free ride, we're further allowing him to do what he wants like he does with every other adpect of the club. Forcing him to sack his main man would be a bigger blow to him than our current method of getting to him like, calling him a fat bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Pardew should've been sacked either after Southampton or Stoke game. No doubt about that in my mind. He was so so lucky to keep his job. This 5 win run has been great though, and has improved my mood no end. The big point with Pardew for me is this: The sit back, 4-5-1, counter-attack tactic I think works well away and against the bigger teams. However against lesser teams, we need to be more on the front foot, more attacking, more possession. Basically a different style of play. I'm interested to see how Pardew lines us up in the upcoming QPR and Burnley games. If we can get it right against the smaller teams, I'd be more convinced there's been a change in Pardew's thinking. We'll see.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is the home of the Pardew is not responsible for anything that goes right and culpable for everything that goes wrong brigade? You're looking for the credit to Pardew but no blame club. It's two doors down, just look for the saliva covered windows. Absolutely not, he's not perfect by any means, but he's also not as bad as some people like to make out. I'm always interested to know who people think would come to the club, work within the same constraints and make a better job than Pardew has done. Tuchel, De Boer, Jemez, Moyes, Koeman (would have) take your pick from any number of coaches working under far harsher financial restrictions than poor Alan. Prob wouldn't almost relegate us. Also he is as much part of the "constraints" as Ashley is. so yeah total fallacy Where do you get the idea that Tuchel/De Boer would manage Newcastle? One is a manager of Ajax, the other is a manager that can take their pick of clubs far superior to a Sports Direct advertising franchise. These people do their research before just casually signing up for a job. Another thing that I wonder of, is that you accuse Pardew of being a Mike Ashley puppet, which I agree with, but if Pardiola gets canned, surely Ashley is just going to employ another puppet/mouthpiece? Why would Ashley want someone who will come into the club and try to succeed? All he wants is you lot in the PL drifting from 8th to 17th to advertise his tat. From what I can see, Pardew is the lump, but Ashley is the tumour, and no sqwarking about who the manager is will ever change that, and I say this as a lurker who supports a true mickey mouse football club that plays non-league. We've signed two of Ajax's better players of the last few years, including their captain, why wouldn't we be able to sign their manager? A man who has made comments about how much he respects NUFC? If them 2 are 2 of their better players I'd hate to see their poor ones. So you've made a judgement on De Jong after 1 game in he clearly wasn't fit? Not just 1 game. Did he make it to the World Cup in Brazil? That Falcao must be shit too in your tiny mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 De Jong's pure taste. Don't know exactly where he's going to fit, but Pardew will no doubt make it work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 De Jong's pure taste. Don't know exactly where he's going to fit, but Pardew will no doubt make it work. Be interesting to see which of the midfield three makes way. Unless he does a Pardew and drops a winger and plays Sissoko out wide again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Fucking hate our supporters like. 'Who else would we get in?' Fuck off man, that question has been answered a fucking million times, you're just unwilling to accept it, fucking morons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 De Jong's pure taste. Don't know exactly where he's going to fit, but Pardew will no doubt make it work. Be interesting to see which of the midfield three makes way. Unless he does a Pardew and drops a winger and plays Sissoko out wide again. I'm hoping even Pards isn't dense enough to move Sissoko out of the centre after the last few performances. Guess if he isn't running every game when De Jong returns to fitness it could well happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Colback should make way when de Jong comes back, no doubt. Sissoko & Abeid in the middle with Aarons, de Jong and Cabella behind Perez. Long term, I think Perez will need an AM like de Jong. Someone who'll occupy defenders in the box and create space for others, as a result. I'm intrigued to see how they'd link up too, you'd think de Jong's preference for quick one-touch play and eye for a pass would be perfect for someone who likes to play on the shoulder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 De Boer actually said he would manage us as well. There was an article just recently. This whole "who would work under Ashley" thing winds me up stupid amounts I agree with you basically, but it's not just about who would manage us, it's also about who Ashley would approach and (more importantly) pay for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Pardew should've been sacked either after Southampton or Stoke game. No doubt about that in my mind. He was so so lucky to keep his job. This 5 win run has been great though, and has improved my mood no end. The big point with Pardew for me is this: The sit back, 4-5-1, counter-attack tactic I think works well away and against the bigger teams. However against lesser teams, we need to be more on the front foot, more attacking, more possession. Basically a different style of play. I'm interested to see how Pardew lines us up in the upcoming QPR and Burnley games. If we can get it right against the smaller teams, I'd be more convinced there's been a change in Pardew's thinking. We'll see.... he'll fuck this up, but again the lucky cunt that he is he couldn't hope to face as bad a team as QPR at the moment, never mind burnley to see a real change in the man imo he'd have to drop colback, play abeid & sissoko as a 2 with cabella as an AM and look to dominate the game, there are multiple combinations he could go with mind...cisse up top and perez as an AM for example he doesn't know how though, he'll ride this formation and selection into the ground until there's nothing left but a distant memory of something that might have worked, then he'll play 4-4-2 with gouffran and sissoko on the wings to get back to basics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Colback should make way when de Jong comes back, no doubt. Sissoko & Abeid in the middle with Aarons, de Jong and Cabella behind Perez. Long term, I think Perez will need an AM like de Jong. Someone who'll occupy defenders in the box and create space for others, as a result. I'm intrigued to see how they'd link up too, you'd think de Jong's preference for quick one-touch play and eye for a pass would be perfect for someone who likes to play on the shoulder. Very much this. Sadly its Pardew........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 De Boer actually said he would manage us as well. There was an article just recently. This whole "who would work under Ashley" thing winds me up stupid amounts I agree with you basically, but it's not just about who would manage us, it's also about who Ashley would approach and (more importantly) pay for. Yeah there is that, but I mean his policy of scouting foreign talent is surely going to extend to management at some point? You would hope so, aye. In any case, it's not really the job of fans to identify the new manager. I doubt many Southampton fans thought they should definitely get Pochettino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hopefully Spurs will come knocking shortly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I'm honestly thinking they will. It's ideal for all parties, Ashley gets money, Pards goes back to London. We get rid of him. not a fucking chance man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I'm honestly thinking they will. It's ideal for all parties, Ashley gets money, Pards goes back to London. We get rid of him. not a fucking chance man poch is done imo. The press seem to love pardew down there he will def be linked and they usually go forrin/London in terms of the hiring strategy he'd have to knock them out of the cup in the quarters, then have us pushing for a CL spot at the very moment the decide to sack poch (which i don't think they'll do personally) even if those stars aligned i think levy is far to astute to think pardew is good enough for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I'm honestly thinking they will. It's ideal for all parties, Ashley gets money, Pards goes back to London. We get rid of him. not a fucking chance man poch is done imo. The press seem to love pardew down there he will def be linked and they usually go forrin/London in terms of the hiring strategy he'd have to knock them out of the cup in the quarters, then have us pushing for a CL spot at the very moment the decide to sack poch (which i don't think they'll do personally) even if those stars aligned i think levy is far to astute to think pardew is good enough for them Not sure the levy thing is a fallacy imo. He's not that smart. From twitter: http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/352426940bd586459344877cbf2d6d57.jpg regardless of all that i can't see him thinking pardew is good enough, i just can't, no way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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