Ronaldo Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 To be fair to Bellamy he hates NUFC fans because of the way the majority of them treated Bobby in his last season and in my opinion he's damned right. He had a bit of (mostly deserved) criticism after Marseille and obviously that reaction to the poor performance/result at home to Wolves. He was hardly treated poorly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Must admit that I thought Shearer got the better of the deal due to Bellamy's pace and workrate. Bellamy ran his bollocks off, dragged defenders all over the place which gave Shearer a bit more time and space. The two of them dovetailed superbly and were a right handful for any defence around at that time. Agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Great article and it's brilliant that Edward's pointed out that's the way society is going. Bellamy's comments at the weekend bothered me. He was giving the big one about how we expect to be better than Liverpool but we really shouldn't have that expectation. I thought he had some bloody nerve. For the majority of the time he spent here he was on Liverpool-like wages. We have top support. We should demand to compete on that level. If we get top 7 revenue and wages, we should be in the top 7. If we have the potential to get either of the two in the top 4 - we should try. We won't get there with Pardew. Bellamy is a jumped-up ignorant worm - had a decent spell at NUFC under SBR but has always been a trouble-maker and stirrer. Not worth a tuppeny toss... A 'decent spell'. He was very arguably our best player for the 3 seasons we finished in our highest positions since Keegan. In your view, maybe - he missed easy chances and he was the main beneficiary of Shearer's ability to take the pressure and lead the line. All Bellamy did was pick up the pieces - and he never, ever, achieved the same success with another club. Your main point is horrendously wrong as others have mentioned. Shearer didn't manage a single good season after Bellamy left. Shearer benefited from Bellamy tremendously (and vice versa). Also his career after us was pretty successful tbf. When we where on our way to mediocrity and relegation Bellamy had his most prolific scoring season the following year (17 in 32), won a couple cups, got his home club promoted to the PL for the first time ever, scored and assisted in a CL QF victory at the Nou Camp. Never, ever amounted to much after? Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29991354 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJberger Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29991354 "Newcastle United defender Daryl Janmaat says he and his team-mates "do not want" another manager at the club. " What was he supposed to say, "we WANT another manager at the club? " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 "Newcastle United defender Daryl Janmaat says he and his team-mates "fucking hate" Pardew and reckon he's a "right cunt". " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Chronicle running another Pardew public opinion poll. Running too high atm... http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew---newcastle-united-8105344 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 To be fair to Bellamy he hates NUFC fans because of the way the majority of them treated Bobby in his last season and in my opinion he's damned right. He had a bit of (mostly deserved) criticism after Marseille and obviously that reaction to the poor performance/result at home to Wolves. He was hardly treated poorly. Aye, we underperformed for what we were capable of. 2 away wins all season was terrible. We could have had a poor away record, won about 4 even, and made the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew---newcastle-united-8105344 Get your votes in, unless you're Cronky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 To be fair to Bellamy he hates NUFC fans because of the way the majority of them treated Bobby in his last season and in my opinion he's damned right. He had a bit of (mostly deserved) criticism after Marseille and obviously that reaction to the poor performance/result at home to Wolves. He was hardly treated poorly. Aye, we underperformed for what we were capable of. 2 away wins all season was terrible. We could have had a poor away record, won about 4 even, and made the Champions League. And we where spoilt (compared to what we've had to endure since) in those times. Top 6, 6 years out of 10 I believe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew---newcastle-united-8105344 Get your votes in, unless you're Cronky. 54% still want shot on another note, that website is fucking horrendous, it's all over the place loading adverts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Down from 80% to 52%....eeeeh, I hate 48% of our fans like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Factor in a few Mackems and it's a clear majority who still want him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Factor in a few Mackems and it's a clear majority who still want him out. They're all Mackems as far as I'm concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Great article and it's brilliant that Edward's pointed out that's the way society is going. Bellamy's comments at the weekend bothered me. He was giving the big one about how we expect to be better than Liverpool but we really shouldn't have that expectation. I thought he had some bloody nerve. For the majority of the time he spent here he was on Liverpool-like wages. We have top support. We should demand to compete on that level. If we get top 7 revenue and wages, we should be in the top 7. If we have the potential to get either of the two in the top 4 - we should try. We won't get there with Pardew. Bellamy is a jumped-up ignorant worm - had a decent spell at NUFC under SBR but has always been a trouble-maker and stirrer. Not worth a tuppeny toss... Shearer would have got nowhere near our record without Robert & Bellamy signing that summer. A 'decent spell'. He was very arguably our best player for the 3 seasons we finished in our highest positions since Keegan. In your view, maybe - he missed easy chances and he was the main beneficiary of Shearer's ability to take the pressure and lead the line. All Bellamy did was pick up the pieces - and he never, ever, achieved the same success with another club. Your main point is horrendously wrong as others have mentioned. Shearer didn't manage a single good season after Bellamy left. Shearer benefited from Bellamy tremendously (and vice versa). Also his career after us was pretty successful tbf. When we where on our way to mediocrity and relegation Bellamy had his most prolific scoring season the following year (17 in 32), won a couple cups, got his home club promoted to the PL for the first time ever, scored and assisted in a CL QF victory at the Nou Camp. Never, ever amounted to much after? Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Vote in its now a 50/50 split. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Not enough 50% of voters are Mackems "shocker" (and Cronky) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 It will never be any better than a Pardew roller coaster WE WAS TOO MUCH ! ! http://memeguy.com/photos/images/emotional-rollercoaster-53445.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Great article and it's brilliant that Edward's pointed out that's the way society is going. Bellamy's comments at the weekend bothered me. He was giving the big one about how we expect to be better than Liverpool but we really shouldn't have that expectation. I thought he had some bloody nerve. For the majority of the time he spent here he was on Liverpool-like wages. We have top support. We should demand to compete on that level. If we get top 7 revenue and wages, we should be in the top 7. If we have the potential to get either of the two in the top 4 - we should try. We won't get there with Pardew. Bellamy is a jumped-up ignorant worm - had a decent spell at NUFC under SBR but has always been a trouble-maker and stirrer. Not worth a tuppeny toss... A 'decent spell'. He was very arguably our best player for the 3 seasons we finished in our highest positions since Keegan. In your view, maybe - he missed easy chances and he was the main beneficiary of Shearer's ability to take the pressure and lead the line. All Bellamy did was pick up the pieces - and he never, ever, achieved the same success with another club. Your main point is horrendously wrong as others have mentioned. Shearer didn't manage a single good season after Bellamy left. Shearer benefited from Bellamy tremendously (and vice versa). Also his career after us was pretty successful tbf. When we where on our way to mediocrity and relegation Bellamy had his most prolific scoring season the following year (17 in 32), won a couple cups, got his home club promoted to the PL for the first time ever, scored and assisted in a CL QF victory at the Nou Camp. Never, ever amounted to much after? Laughable. You might be laughing - I don't find Bellamy remotely amusing...and if you think he would have had anything like the modicum of success he had at NUFC without Shearer taking the target man role, then you are living in dreamland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Aye. Not as if he scored 17 goals in 26 games for Blackburn Rovers - with the 'target man role' expertly fulfilled by Shefki Kuqi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's one of the greatest turnarounds in black and white history, tbf. Remember Feyenoord? Me neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Aye. Not as if he scored 17 goals in 26 games for Blackburn Rovers - with the 'target man role' expertly fulfilled by Shefki Kuqi. Not sure where you got your stats from, but his best ever season for any club was at Blackburn where he scored 13 league goals in 27 matches (17 goals in all competitions in 32 games - 4 goals against Huddersfield (then in League 1) and QPR (who finished 21st in the Championship)). He's never been prolific as his finishing wasn't good enough. He was helped enormously by Shearer and vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Aye. Not as if he scored 17 goals in 26 games for Blackburn Rovers - with the 'target man role' expertly fulfilled by Shefki Kuqi. Not sure where you got your stats from, but his best ever season for any club was at Blackburn where he scored 13 league goals in 27 matches (17 goals in all competitions in 32 games - 4 goals against Huddersfield (then in League 1) and QPR (who finished 21st in the Championship)). He's never been prolific as his finishing wasn't good enough. He was helped enormously by Shearer and vice versa. He quite blatantly helped Blackburn Rovers and Shefki Kuqi to 6th a season after scoring 10 goals for us before Christmas, following 3 seasons of us being top 5 with him which we've failed to better from 1997 to present day. I'd say there's ample evidence that Bellamy had a massively positive effect on NUFC. Anyone arguing otherwise is following a bitter little agenda. Shearer could still play, no doubt. But 4 consecutive seasons of finishing in the bottom half to repeat title challengers? Robert and Bellamy did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 But 4 consecutive seasons of finishing in the bottom half to repeat title challengers? Robert and Bellamy did that. Strange argument. They didn't do that actually, or couldn't have without the likes of Shearer, Given, Speed and Solano already in the side. I agree with you in general, Robson's homecoming was in danger of fizzling out before he brought Bellamy and Robert in. People seem to forget that in his first full season we finished 11th. Bellamy and Robert took us to another level after that but they couldn't have done so without the half dozen good players already at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 But 4 consecutive seasons of finishing in the bottom half to repeat title challengers? Robert and Bellamy did that. Strange argument. They didn't do that actually, or couldn't have without the likes of Shearer, Given, Speed and Solano already in the side. All of whom had finished in the bottom half for 4 seasons. Nobody said we could have done it without them, but Bellamy and Robert were responsible for the vast improvement. We were absolutely crying out for 2 players like that, and getting them facilitated the leap from finishing 13th (98, 99) and 11th (00, 01) to 4th and 3rd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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