Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Spurs at home, probably 20K empty seats. AO did that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 there are websites and journalists using SP directly to this very day to discredit the guy and highlight how shite he is KI has explained it as well as it needs to be explained but honestly, to sit here now with rafa in charge of the club and deny the impact they had is absolutely beyond me like....i could be wrong but i don't think anything of the kind has ever even been attempted in english football has it? not only to target an underperforming shitshow of a manager for the sack but the means by which they did it incredible stuff tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 But SP didn't break the cycle in the first place for crying out loud Steve Parish didn't pick up the phone to NUFC because of SP, Alan Pardew who loves Palace, is a Cockney himself and wanted higher earnings didn't leave solely because of SP. This is the flaw in your thesis. Pardew leaving for Palace wasn't some Parish-led coincidence. Pardew had already rejected the opportunity to join Palace before the SP protests really began to bite. Something about "Why would I leave" or "Not big enough" or some such. Yet the next time to seat is empty the "favourite son" narrative is being played out, no denials are forthcoming. London, money, history, blah blah blah. What had changed? Had Palace suddenly become a bigger club? Or Newcastle become a lesser one? No, but the Palace job became more attractive because of the SP-led protests. Wholly and solely. Ashley and Charnley came out and said they never planned to sack him. But by making the NUFC job unattractive to Pardew, the protests achieved their goal. I don't see how there can even be debate about that. BTW take note of HTT's thoughts about behind-the-scenes. Remember how Pardew got the job here in the first place. See how Allardyce got the Palace job. There is a lot of merit in the notion that Pardew contacted Parish and told him in advance he would be interested - the Pardew-to-Palace narrative came out almost immediately and was never challenged... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It's also been missed that there seems a very high percentage of games already scheduled live on TV who then happen to be the first game of many high profile managers. Can think of Zola and now Fat Sam's first game this week alone. Coincidence? Might not be. Maybe Sky have more power than they're being given credit for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Can anyone find that Cardiff walk out thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 The whole aim was to get the damning stats out into the public domain and to give people a voice - 'shola's right that the fans were on the turn - as they were several times under him - they just lacked the tools to create an effective protest due to the disjointed nature of our support at the time. Before SP there was only really the Cardiff game when True Faith (?) nicked Hezza's idea It was stifled - and not as powerful as it could have been at times - as every-time Pardew picked up a win all the large number of idiots were desperate to throw it back. "Where's your banners now!" etc. I'm pretty certain that it played a huge role in him choosing to leave for Palace though, if it wasn't for the fan protests I don't think he leaves at all. And in turn that's led to Rafa. Obviously SP didn't "change Ashley's mind" or out, but the protests played a role in it eventually happening. I had nowt to do with SP like, but I saw the massive amount of effort that went into it by some. Aye they did. They changed it from a 60 minute walk out to a 69th or vice versa. I still stuck to my time as did many others. Was chuffed when I seen all my mates and dads mates in the pub as they'd walked too. Really proved to me they cared about me and the club. True faith trying to steal people's thunder again. When actually it was about the club not any individual. Showed themselves up with that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 If I piss outside on my grass, then 16 months later there is a typhoon - I didn't flood the fucking garden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 There's more weight to saying SP had something to do with Rafa being here than not - by virtue of their goal being met, them explaining the expectations they have of a manager and how morphing into AO has held the club to account. Who cares TBH whether pardew was scared off or just wanted ego massaged - it made him look for the out door. Who cares if it didn't directly bring Rafa here - it nailed it to the mast that talentless yes men aren't to be tolerated. It would seem we were approached by Rafa by sections of our fans having the boldness to spell out that we match the ambitions of the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 The crowd were well on the turn prior to Sack Pardew like. They certainly helped and might of expedited matters but let's not crack on like they're martyrs. Self-congratulatory cringe. My personal experience isn't that the crowd were well on the turn, like. You were looked at as if you were an upstart if you threw any abuse his way until the protests. Even at that point, there were sizable amounts of supporters who couldn't see the long-term damage his stewardship was causing and protected him with resistance to the protests. Agree 100%. Not surprised that foulwashala is trying to rewrite history like given he was one of those who was more vocally against criticism of Pardew on here. Not that he'll admit it now mind. I went into the Southampton away game (0-4) expecting to get grief for holding up an anti-Pardew banner, and did on the way in. By the end of the game it was the most vitriolic crowd I'd ever been in, almost united in anti-Pardew chants - that was the first day SP was present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I wonder how much notice Rafa took of SP at the time? Obviously he's a footballing encyclopaedia and will have heard of the campaign. I wonder what he thought about it privately. I wonder if the campaign added to his realisation that this isn't a docile fanbase, and that if you could get the fans on-side, then miracles can happen. I wouldn't be surprised if the first thing Rafa told Charnley when being interviewed is that they absolutely must treat the fans better than that they had done previously. Re: Figures 1-0 argument: The SP campaign was not just a bunch of people screaming abuse at Pardew. The campaign aimed to show that fans will no longer sit on their hands, ignoring facts and evidence that the club was an empty shell and heading nowhere. It was a message to Ashley and the media, more than it was anti-Pardew per se. It was a campaign to protest the campaign by ex-players and pundits to continuously belittle this club and pull the wool over the consumer's eyes when it came to one of their darling own: a British ex-player doing an awful job managing in the top division. SackPardew.com was a middle finger to all of that, and not just some shouty gig to make a manager slightly uncomfortable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Re: the argument that we still managed to appoint Carver, McClaren, etc post SP - the point with Pardew is he would always do enough to just keep us treading water. Ultimately we probably do owe the clowns who came between Pardew and Rafa as much as SP for proving how broken the model for the club was, but without SP I've no doubt we'd still have an empty soulless club managed by this fraud, still just existing for the sake of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I went into the Southampton away game (0-4) expecting to get grief for holding up an anti-Pardew banner, and did on the way in. By the end of the game it was the most vitriolic crowd I'd ever been in, almost united in anti-Pardew chants - that was the first day SP was present. 2nd best thing about that game was Carver offering out lads in the away end, asking them to come to Longbenton on Monday to 'discuss' their sentiments. A cabbie with forearms like hams took Carver up on his invitation and JC hid in the clubhouse until he went away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I went into the Southampton away game (0-4) expecting to get grief for holding up an anti-Pardew banner, and did on the way in. By the end of the game it was the most vitriolic crowd I'd ever been in, almost united in anti-Pardew chants - that was the first day SP was present. 2nd best thing about that game was Carver offering out lads in the away end, asking them to come to Longbenton on Monday to 'discuss' their sentiments. A cabbie with forearms like hams took Carver up on his invitation and JC hid in the clubhouse until he went away. forgot that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Neesy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I went into the Southampton away game (0-4) expecting to get grief for holding up an anti-Pardew banner, and did on the way in. By the end of the game it was the most vitriolic crowd I'd ever been in, almost united in anti-Pardew chants - that was the first day SP was present. 2nd best thing about that game was Carver offering out lads in the away end, asking them to come to Longbenton on Monday to 'discuss' their sentiments. A cabbie with forearms like hams took Carver up on his invitation and JC hid in the clubhouse until he went away. That was me who he was arguing with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 'Be careful what you wish for' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 'Be careful what you wish for' glorious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 'Be careful what you wish for' Get in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 'Be careful what you wish for' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Fuckin' rights. I might have to remind Ando the next time he's on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 This lot highlighted the folly in having someone like Pardew as manager and I genuinely believe without this lot we would not have Rafa, same applies to AO. To all those morons who criticised, mocked and dissented you don't deserve such delights as we are witnessing. Shame on them all. Praise to everyone behind SP and AO and all those who supported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 'Be careful what you wish for' :nomalo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Set us back years, iyam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Anyone got any footage of the Stoke away game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Anyone got any footage of the Stoke away game? aye, it's in my porn folder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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