basjen Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 On 10/05/2015 at 20:53, Gorilla said: Quote Quote Quote Was there ever any context behind his "not selling until at least the end of the 2015/2016 season" comment? Seems like an odd thing to say if there's no intention at all to sell. Its a way to pacify fans, there's absolutely no reason for him to sell now or in a years time as things stand. I always thought that they came up with that year just to get the fans off his back as 2016 was not too far away in the future so fans might just be prepared shut up and put up for a couple of years if they thought he was on his way. One thing is for sure, if we go down hell never well us until we are back in the prem as he would lose alot from his initial investment. I don't believe that. If he believe that the present value of selling is significantly higher than not, even though it is nowhere close to the initial investment, he will sell up. He is a business man, after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Still a yes. Probably even more so after learning stuff like this... On 20/05/2015 at 21:39, withabrick said: They're off tomorrow as well the lazy cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I could barely give a shit about what happens at the weekend. If the club don't care and the players don't care, why should I care? Let them get on with the mess they've made, either get out of it or don't, it's frankly none of my concern. I'll watch from afar on a Sky feed I've not paid for with dispassionate interest, because to be fair I am interested in what happens - how can I not be? - But I'm not investing a single shred of emotion, effort, passion or money into what happens because they've got precisely no intention of giving anything in that regard back to me. Relationships need to be 2-way. This one hasn't been for years and anyone who continues to hope for improvement has the worst case of battered wife syndrome imagineable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winn Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Hope we stay up only because it could be possible he will buy some players to keep us in the league next year and they turn out to be good players and we do ok. Will only be for 1 season as they will be sold the following year but we can dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Mentioned it before but Newcastle in the PL is giving me absolute zero atm. Getting nothing from supporting us the way things are and 'more of the same' doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. Going down could provoke a bit of interest and feeling back I suppose. If we stay up then it'll be another year without any emotion being invested in the club. Honestly, genuinely couldn't give the first fuck what happens on Sunday, I'll keep my emotion for things that actually matter, certainly not these cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 On 20/05/2015 at 23:14, Winn said: Hope we stay up only because it could be possible he will buy some players to keep us in the league next year and they turn out to be good players and we do ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I hope we go down, I hope Ashley goes and I hope I can get back to supporting my team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 My gut reaction is that I don't want the club relegated. I get all the arguments in favour of going down, but can't convince myself to want relegation... Not sure how much of that is logical thought or just emotionally clouded judgment. There are pros and cons to both. Luckily, we can't count on these cunts for anything, so on Sunday what will be will simply be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 do any of us particularly care, bearing im mind if we don' the status quo will remain and if we do it will still remain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Heart says no.... but head says it could be the only deciding factor left in Ashley deciding he's had enough. 2009 it hurt going down but this time, its almost the like its inevitable after the last few seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 i cant help feeling now that i just dont care i would enjoy the championship just as much a i currently despise the premier league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 On 21/05/2015 at 09:32, Cookie1892 said: i cant help feeling now that i just dont care i would enjoy the championship just as much a i currently despise the premier league You won't be saying that when the blob concedes the 4th at MK Dons in November. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 On 08/05/2015 at 10:46, Shay's Given Tim Flowers said: Quote Aye it makes no sense to say its more likely he will sell after relegation when theres no offers now never mind when we lose about 75% of our income and are left with bare bones. Why would the £250m offers flood in then? There are no offers now because the PL Gravy Train inflates the value effectively the purchase price will take into account future revenues. After a few years in lower leagues the value of the club will be far below £250m and it is likely to represent a good investment opportunity. For the life of me, unless the football bubble bursts I can see no reason for Mike Ashley to sell a Premier League Club. I can also see little reason to buy it. This is where i'm at. If he makes money he'll only sell at a Premium. An under-performing club looks a good investment imo and he'll be more likely to sell. Look at Southampton, Hull, Cardiff & Leicester. All had relatively new buyers in the last decade or so - looking to invest and bring them up into the PL gravy train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 On 08/05/2015 at 14:00, Marmoset said: If I was in Ashley's position, it just wouldn't make sense to try and sell following relegation. You don't sell when your stock is at it's lowest. He doesn't know how to run a football club. IN teh Championship after a few season he'll either have to invest or sell. He may invest to then sell in the PL. But he wn't be able to sell off loads of players like last time and have a decent team at the end so things will be different this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 On 20/05/2015 at 23:20, midds said: Mentioned it before but Newcastle in the PL is giving me absolute zero atm. Getting nothing from supporting us the way things are and 'more of the same' doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. Going down could provoke a bit of interest and feeling back I suppose. If we stay up then it'll be another year without any emotion being invested in the club. Honestly, genuinely couldn't give the first f*** what happens on Sunday, I'll keep my emotion for things that actually matter, certainly not these c***s. This. As long as Ashley is still the owner of the club nothing will change and that means that there's nothing about the club that will keep me interested in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I do think Charnley, Carver and maybe even Coloccini are all goners in the summer. I have little hope we have a plan in place with relegation especially if first off we have to replace those three to proceed with any plan. We lucked out last time because we had Hughton and Nolan because we really didn't have a plan. If we get relegated, I'd expect competent players sold, the useless or gutless ones left, Barry Leach as chief exec and Dave Watson as manager. Horrible stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The hope is we stay up, Ashley realsies after one relegation and two near misses he's incapable of keeping the team in the league and needs to sell while we're a premier league outfit. However, that relies on Ashley both realising and admitting he's fucked up and isn't good enough. So, unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 On 21/05/2015 at 10:52, James said: I do think Charnley, Carver and maybe even Coloccini are all goners in the summer. I have little hope we have a plan in place with relegation especially if first off we have to replace those three to proceed with any plan. We lucked out last time because we had Hughton and Nolan because we really didn't have a plan. If we get relegated, I'd expect competent players sold, the useless or gutless ones left, Barry Leach as chief exec and Dave Watson as manager. Horrible stuff. Hopefully he'll get the message after a while that employing these cheap leeches time and again don't work at a football club, wise up and then figure out that his business model doesn't work here. Reckon it would take relegation and our prospective doom to see that though...if he gives a fuck in the first place and the whole exercise is to piss us off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Kind of accepted we are gonna go, and tbh may be more interesting than the current shit. The worry is they keep Raylor, Williamson, Jonas etc when I would be hoping we would bring in Armstrong, Kemen etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Take it down to the conference. As far as it takes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 When we went down last time it was almost a blessing. We knew that we'd be rid of a lot of the shite that had done their absolute minimum to aid the team and for the most part they all buggered off to achieve nothing of note elsewhere. This time around it's different, I feel that if we were to go down we'd lose all the players who a half-way decent manager might be able to do something with and be left with all the dross. Carver & the rest of the fuckwits in the coaching team would remain, Taylor, Taylor, Colo, Jonas, Colback, Williamson, etc. all the dross in the team that should have been shifted years ago would remain, anyone else with an ounce of talent or ambition would be off like a rocket. If we go down we'd need a miracle to get us back up at the first attempt, more likely we'd just drop even further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 On 21/05/2015 at 11:29, ikri said: When we went down last time it was almost a blessing. We knew that we'd be rid of a lot of the shite that had done their absolute minimum to aid the team and for the most part they all buggered off to achieve nothing of note elsewhere. This time around it's different, I feel that if we were to go down we'd lose all the players who a half-way decent manager might be able to do something with and be left with all the dross. Carver & the rest of the fuckwits in the coaching team would remain, Taylor, Taylor, Colo, Jonas, Colback, Williamson, etc. all the dross in the team that should have been shifted years ago would remain, anyone else with an ounce of talent or ambition would be off like a rocket. If we go down we'd need a miracle to get us back up at the first attempt, more likely we'd just drop even further. Good. We'll likely get Carver no matter what so watching him and the geniuses who came up with this amazing plan get their arses kicked down to League One and beyond will be sweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 On 21/05/2015 at 11:05, Shay's Given Tim Flowers said: Or a bit of minimal tweaking leads to us picking up an extra six points and jobs a good'un for another year. Precisely. Didn't bother him in the slightest that Pardew took until the penultimate game to secure survival the season before last. They had no plan for him leaving, remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I voted "no" i generally dont want the club relegated. On the other hand the club probably deserves to go down due to the way it is managed and how Ashley shows contempt for the league and other competitions. The fans, who turn up constantly through all this mess should not have to sit through this. I generally would never come out with a line like thi, I do think NUFC fans deserve something better than the current way the club is managed/ran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 On 21/05/2015 at 11:50, Shay's Given Tim Flowers said: As fans there is not a good or even viable option for us at the moment. As long as Ashley owns the club it's out of our hands. Pretty much. whatever happens, happens. The fans cant be blamed for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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