jdckelly Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I don't even see the quality of the football as being higher (I know you said in theory). IMO it's markedly worse than it was 10-15 years ago. Even the games between the top teams are usually a bore-off. The whole Premier League experience seems more 'Emperor's New Clothes' every year to me, although obviously not to everyone else since the public continue to throw money at Sky for it. oh I do agree on the whole and the ability of premier league clubs over the last 5 years or so to not only be getting and spending much more money than ever and somehow seem to get worse every season is remarkable. Theres also the trend for the stockpiling of talented players at these top teams, chelsea have what 24 players out on loan? how the fuck is that even allowed? So its no surprise general quality is going down since any player who shows even the remotest bit of talent and ability the media are selling to liverpool man utd etc. The more I think about it the more I almost welcome relegation just on the basis of fuck the premier league for a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I can't really answer this question. A part of me does, but it's also built in to me to hurt at the idea. I envisage anger and disillusion eithe away. While there'd be an amount of satisfaction, my feelings for the regime would really come to a head at a higher level if it happened, I'd be raging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 A massive part of me does. I'll probably be able to answer the question with more sincerity after WBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes. I'd been the whole club down if it meant we could hurt Ashley even a little bit at this point. In its current incarnation nufc means absolutely nothing to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes. If anyone thinks things will change while fat boy is making money in the premier league they are dillusional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes, to show the world what's the result of insulting football industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Might not get better if we stay up. Certainly won't get better if we go down. Ashley has the money rolling in either way. Almost certain we won't come back up if we go down this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes Sports Direct United deserves a spell in the lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 My answer is NO. However based on our performances since we sold Cabaye does we deserve to get relegated? the answer is YES. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes, fuck it. Can't be much worse than it is now. Least we might have some ambition to do better than mid table mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm really not sure. Get relegated and people will start lapping up to Ashley again about how he stopped us doing a Leeds again, we'll owe him even more money...still think we're more likely to get respectable new owners if we're a Premier League club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The worst three teams over the season will go down but ultimately for the good of the competition it will be better if we go down if even just to prevent other teams following our un-ambitious model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 No, can see no real benefit going down. It will not get rid of Ashley as he has too much money invested in the club. Plus cannot see us coming back up. I am old enough to remember season after season in the old second division, when a big signing was people like mick Martin and John Trewick from West Brom reserves. so no real wish to go back to those days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 No. It would be fucking horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 yes, if it gets rid of the current owner and/or forces him to rethink his model and go for a "winning club" instead of a "water treading" club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It wouldn't be horrible like. We just wouldn't be in the top league and it might further show up Ashley for what he is. I agree it'd probably mean he wouldn't sell, but the premier league tv exposure is clearly a big deal and likely one of the few reasons he bothers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It would show up him, his cronies and their clueless ideas about football. His 'I'll do things my way' attitude has got us in this situation and relegation would be the ultimate confirmation of its failure. He isn't used to failure. To say he wouldn't be bothered is preposterous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes, imo the only realistic hope of getting Ashley to relinquish the control of the club comes from us going down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Not in the slightest. Why should we suffer because of Ashley's penny pinching? I'd rather Sunderland went down, just as I'm sure their fans would be delighted if we dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It would show up him, his cronies and their clueless ideas about football. His 'I'll do things my way' attitude has got us in this situation and relegation would be the ultimate confirmation of its failure. He isn't used to failure. To say he wouldn't be bothered is preposterous. We are already deep into the realms of the preposterous, though, Dave. My instinct says "f**k it, let's see what he does if we go down". But another voice says he will do absolutely nothing, at least not for the three years we'd receive parachute payments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It would show up him, his cronies and their clueless ideas about football. His 'I'll do things my way' attitude has got us in this situation and relegation would be the ultimate confirmation of its failure. He isn't used to failure. To say he wouldn't be bothered is preposterous. He didn't seem to learn much the last time though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Staying up is guaranteeing more of the same. Relegation might change something. Let's get relegated and see. I probably don't want us to get relegated but i'm not hoping we stay up either. Apathy. I don't care either way. One is bad, one is worse. I'm not sure which is which. In fact.. scrap that. I'm sure staying up is worse. But being in the Champo is no fun all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Not in the slightest. Why should we suffer because of Ashley's penny pinching? I'd rather Sunderland went down, just as I'm sure their fans would be delighted if we dropped. Their board is incompetent but at least they try. We don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'd hope that staying up by the skin of our teeth will set alarm bells ringing with Ashley. Surely it has to, the freefall has been extraordinary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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